Intel’s top Arc A770 GPU is priced at $329, available October 12th

[StDragon]

6 minutes ago, pas008 said:

Intel does have igpu experience up the wazoo so not sure that it's a mountain or a hill

To be honest their igpu drivers seemed to always work for what they are 

They suck for gaming. As in, not nearly optimized to the degree that Nvidia and AMD extend their development support too.

Intel iGPU drivers are about ensuring compatibility with monitors, GDI and DirectX. That's fundamentally about it.

[bal723]

the left one is gunnir a770, the middle one is asroc a770 and the right one is asrock a750.

(very cool ngl)

[yolosnail]

Wonder if they'll do Mac drivers, I can whack one in my 2009 Mac Pro and really stick one to Apple!

[Sarra]

3 hours ago, yolosnail said:

Wonder if they'll do Mac drivers, I can whack one in my 2009 Mac Pro and really stick one to Apple!

The history between Intel and Apple just screams "HELL NO!!!", but you never know.

[Quackers101]

A750 being around 289$ (starting, not limited edition price)

Saying 750 is a better perf to dollar deal.

Also doing some comparisons between running on DirectX11 and DirectX12. (also nice how open they have been)

Edited September 29, 2022 by Quackers101

[Sir Beregond]

I wouldn't mind picking one up just to have it if I get that in the budget. I expect the drivers for non-DX12 titles to still be crap, but that'll come with time. At least Intel was honest about that.

 

I really do hope they keep it up and by the time we get to Celestial or Druid, they become pretty strong competitors. 

[Mister Woof]

Might try to get one just as a collector's item

[agatong55]

Acer is back in the Video card business 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

If I wasn't playing L4D2 with buddies, I might seriously consider the A770 to try out an all Intel platform.

[IkeaGnome]

I'm liking some of these AIB designs. Much more subdued and way less "gamery" look to them.

[ewitte]

On 9/27/2022 at 1:08 PM, LapsedMemory said:

If nothing else it will help to put a dent into NVIDIA's "The era of cheap video cards is at an end" mindset.  Maybe NVIDIA will think twice about trying to price gouge the 4060 and 4070 if they know they've got more competition biting at their heels.  

Nvidia can't think to save themselves.  They designed the card based on mining profits.  Mining has consistently had a 4 your cycle ever since it started!  It doesn't' take a psychic to have planed for it.

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

20 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

I wouldn't mind picking one up just to have it if I get that in the budget. I expect the drivers for non-DX12 titles to still be crap, but that'll come with time. At least Intel was honest about that.

 

I really do hope they keep it up and by the time we get to Celestial or Druid, they become pretty strong competitors. 

I think all gens beyond battlemage for everything except SOC's are cancelled, aren't they? I remember hearing something about battemage being the last of the intel discrete gpus

[Dr_Whom]

16 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

I think all gens beyond battlemage for everything except SOC's are cancelled, aren't they? I remember hearing something about battemage being the last of the intel discrete gpus

Yea if you listen to the rumors Arc has been cancelled about 50 times now. Next cancellation rumor is due any minute now.

[HandymanHandy]

I'd pick up A380 for my Unraid server, but it seems linux drivers are only in kernel 6 onwards.

[LAwLz]

23 hours ago, Quackers101 said:

A750 being around 289$ (starting, not limited edition price)

Saying 750 is a better perf to dollar deal.

Also doing some comparisons between running on DirectX11 and DirectX12. (also nice how open they have been)

I hope these numbers turns out to be accurate.

 

The A750 being 5-6% better than the RTX 3060 on average across 60+ games is impressive. Especially since it is apparently going to cost 290 dollars. And the lead is supposedly even bigger if we only look at DX12 and Vulkan games.

The cheapest RTX 3060 I could find right now costs 360 dollars, so you get similar performance at a 20% lower price, or in modern games you get higher performance at 20% lower price.

 

It's a shame it seems like they are struggling in DX11, but I am not too worried about that. If their A750 (not the A770) can get above 50 FPS when running at 1440p and high settings, then I think that's all you can expect at that price.

 

 

I would have liked for them to show benchmarks with the A770 as well, not just perf/dollar charts for that.

 

 

Oh well, in like a week we will have third party benchmarks that will give us all the details we want and need.

If Intel delivers on all their claims then I might end up going with Intel for both the CPU and GPU for my next PC. The price to performance ration on both their CPUs and GPUs seems, according to first party benchmarks, to be way better than AMD and Nvidia.

[Imbadatnames]

I might get one of these depending on reviews tbh. Cheapish, only 225W, an improvement on my Titan and a 2 slot, 2 fan cooler. 

[StDragon]

On 9/30/2022 at 4:20 PM, LAwLz said:

If Intel delivers on all their claims then I might end up going with Intel for both the CPU and GPU for my next PC. The price to performance ration on both their CPUs and GPUs seems, according to first party benchmarks, to be way better than AMD and Nvidia.

If only Intel can combine the dGPU cores with the iGPU as well, that would be a strong compelling case for a solid blue build.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

57 minutes ago, StDragon said:

If only Intel can combine the dGPU cores with the iGPU as well, that would be a strong compelling case for a solid blue build.

Hasn't AMD been trying that with Radeon Graphics on their APUs and dGPUs for years? If I remember correctly, it never took off which leads me to believe the performance was lackluster. 

[Middcore]

2 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Hasn't AMD been trying that with Radeon Graphics on their APUs and dGPUs for years? If I remember correctly, it never took off which leads me to believe the performance was lackluster. 

AMD did Crossfire between integrated graphics and some of their low-end dGPU's years ago. They had already abandoned it by the Ryzen era.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

10 minutes ago, Middcore said:

AMD did Crossfire between integrated graphics and some of their low-end dGPU's years ago. They had already abandoned it by the Ryzen era.

Then it must've been just terrible since nothing was going well for AMD back in those days hahaha. 

 

Good thing they couldn't convince me to go that route back then. 

[Middcore]

12 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Then it must've been just terrible since nothing was going well for AMD back in those days hahaha. 

 

Good thing they couldn't convince me to go that route back then. 

I mean, Crossfire/SLI was already circling the drain by then, and doing it with two low-end chips never made sense. It was just a gimmick thing. Amusingly for how unsuccessful it was awareness of it is weirdly persistent, I mean you thought they were still doing it and a couple of years ago I talked to a guy who was unshakably convinced that the Asus "DUAL" cards were all part of it.

 

 

 

[LAwLz]

58 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Then it must've been just terrible since nothing was going well for AMD back in those days hahaha. 

 

Good thing they couldn't convince me to go that route back then. 

It was terrible. 

The iGPU was so weak that it barely helped, and crossfire in general introduced a ton of microstuttering. 

I am fairly sure it also made the overall frame time consistency way more varied. So even if you overall got a slight boost in fps, the game ran really inconsistent. 

 

 

I am fairly sure Intel have said that you will be able to combine their iGPU with their dGPU, but only for certain tasks where it makes sense. For example video encoding, where both GPUs are equally matched in terms of performance, and it scales well even if the latency is inconsistent. 

Don't quote me on that though because right now I can't find a source for it. 

[StDragon]

38 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

I am fairly sure Intel have said that you will be able to combine their iGPU with their dGPU, but only for certain tasks where it makes sense. For example video encoding, where both GPUs are equally matched in terms of performance, and it scales well even if the latency is inconsistent. 

Don't quote me on that though because right now I can't find a source for it. 

It's called Intel Deep Link. And you're probably right, that Deep Link doesn't work well for low latency cooperative workloads. However, it does with asymmetric multi-threaded task management that can be shuffled between iGPU and dGPU as needed.

[CT854]

You know what's really funny about this release date?

 

Apparently it's the same date as Nvidia's RTX 4090 release.

 

I've already mentally associated this date with the Intel ARC launch, and not at all with the Nvidia launch. That's how much real estate Nvidia's lost in my mind. I genuinely wonder how many people feel the same way as I do.

[Quackers101]

1 hour ago, CT854 said:

I've already mentally associated this date with the Intel ARC launch, and not at all with the Nvidia launch. That's how much real estate Nvidia's lost in my mind. I genuinely wonder how many people feel the same way as I do.

well they did take a piss on what they sometimes consider a "weak crowd" that they can control any way they like. (the way they market and talk about their consumers that are not "business related"). As with how the top people for Nvidia said so much bad stuff about gamers and and other creators, while also having so much research for gaming, that is of course to be used for marketing and false claims. So yes, it's easy to be annoyed with the green devil and the many locks they have created over the years. at least they have pushed a bit more for some "open projects" now, hopefully intel don't do as Nvidia does and it was some of their claims against nvidia for their cards and being similar-ish to AMD. then again they have to work together for these new standards and stuff like directx etc.

 

but in short, people will buy their cards and some of what they offer anyways. also they have so much drama around them all the time, so its just expected from them.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Quackers101