ada lovelace NVIDIA RTX 4080 and RTX 4070 Reportedly Delayed Until 2023, RTX 4090 Only 4000 Series GPU to Land in 2022

[BiG StroOnZ]

Summary

According to multiple sources, NVIDIA’s next-gen RTX 40 series graphics cards have been delayed to the first quarter of 2023, except the RTX 4090. This sentiment has been reverberated by multiple tipsters, the latest being Bits and Chips. From what we’ve heard, there are no plans for a mainstream Lovelace launch anytime soon.

 

 

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The RTX 4090 may be the only next-gen GeForce GPU to hit the solid ground this year, with the RTX 4080 and 4070 delayed to CES 2023. This is something we’ve also heard about the RDNA 3 lineup as well. According to initial rumors, the RX 7700 XT was the only SKU to launch this year, with the RX 7800 XT and 7900 XT pushed to 2023.

 

Although we can’t say with certainty if this news is legit, it’s looking more and more likely, as NVIDIA has been extending the production of its higher-end Ampere parts.

 

My thoughts

I find this rumor interesting because JayzTwoCents claimed this not too long ago (he even went as far as saying that no Ada cards were releasing until 2023 according to many of his sources in the industry). Many other news outlets continued the presumed "normal" release schedule of October-ish. But now it seems only the RTX 4090 will launch in October. It sadly does make sense because we have heard numerous claims of issues getting rid of excess Ampere inventory. Ampere prices have continued to drop over the past few months to seemingly clear stock. Then there's also the rumor of NVIDIA purportedly restarting RTX 3080 12GB production to burn through large stocks of GA102 GPUs that are remaining. If the RTX 4090 launches in October, and the RTX 4080/RTX 4070 at CES 2023; that event is in January, therefore only 3 months of waiting. 

 

Sources

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-reportedly-delayed-to-2023-rtx-4090-only-40-series-gpu-to-land-in-2022-rumor/

[venomtail]

I remember Moor's Law is Dead months ago speculating that NVIDIA will likely only release the 4090 late this year and release the 4080/4070 cards in 2023 under a "delay" or something. My dude's spot on as always.

 

More intrigued about the RDNA3 lineup could be delayed. I think this is the best moment for AMD to "strike" at NVIDA as for the market will have a whole period nothing to fill in the gap of new releases for Q4. NVIDIA can't bring their release date forwards to counter AMD as their cards are vastly oversupplied in the market, so NVIDIA will be a sitting duck until Q1 2023. Free market share estate for AMD.

[Vishera]

Nobody will buy those cards,especially with global inflation and the inflated prices of the cards.

[Moonzy]

3 minutes ago, venomtail said:

I remember Moor's Law is Dead months ago speculating that NVIDIA will likely only release the 4090 late this year and release the 4080/4070 cards in 2023 under a "delay" or something. My dude's spot on as always.

i don't watch that guy, but did he also say that they'll launch this year at some point?

if you make enough guesses, one will come true, i suppose

[Fasauceome]

On 8/16/2022 at 10:33 AM, Moonzy said:

but did he also say that they'll launch this year at some point?

if you make enough guesses, one will come true, i suppose

That's the usual Moore's law is dead reporting. Report every rumor, even the contradicting ones. You'll be right at some point.

[tim0901]

20 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

i don't watch that guy, but did he also say that they'll launch this year at some point?

if you make enough guesses, one will come true, i suppose

Spot on. He first claimed they would all be delayed, but then went back on that prediction less than a week later, claiming the 4090 would arrive in October and the other cards would arrive by December, just like everyone else.

 

[Sir Beregond]

19 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

i don't watch that guy, but did he also say that they'll launch this year at some point?

if you make enough guesses, one will come true, i suppose

Still wondering about that co-processor he said 30-series would have before they launched.  Yeah, he like many in that field just throw everything up on a wall, some things are bound to stick. Guy will then act all arrogant like he is god for "getting it right".

[porina]

20 minutes ago, venomtail said:

More intrigued about the RDNA3 lineup could be delayed. I think this is the best moment for AMD to "strike" at NVIDA as for the market will have a whole period nothing to fill in the gap of new releases for Q4. NVIDIA can't bring their release date forwards to counter AMD as their cards are vastly oversupplied in the market, so NVIDIA will be a sitting duck until Q1 2023. Free market share estate for AMD.

AMD will only grow market share if they offer much more perf/$ than nvidia, and while they're arguably a bit better depending on exactly what you compare, it doesn't seem enough to grow. I just don't think AMD will push for share, and instead they're happy making more margin on lower numbers. If they can unquestionably capture the outright performance crown maybe halo effect would help them grow more than value.

 

16 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Nobody will buy those cards,especially with global inflation and the inflated prices of the cards.

nvidia Ampere cards are cheaper than ever. Earlier today I saw a new from major seller 3070 for £500, not far from UK launch MSRP of £469. Keep in mind this was an early launch product, before they increased the MSRPs. Unfortunately not seeing much of a drop on 3080 10GB where it doesn't make sense compared to paying a little more for 12GB version. Can't find UK MSRP of 12GB for comparison.

[BobVonBob]

4 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Nobody will buy those cards,especially with global inflation and the inflated prices of the cards.

Many people will buy those cards, regardless of global inflation or the inflated prices of the cards. Look at the absolute glut of people that bought 30 series GPUs at more than double their original prices, or the daily new build thread with a $5,000+ budget to do nothing but gaming.

 

There are thousands of people out there to which a $2,000 GPU is chump change, and a (much) larger number of people that care more about having the best and shiniest things to brag about than making good financial decisions. The 3090 Ti is barely better than the 3080 Ti, is nearly twice the price, and people absolutely ate it up when it was new.

 

PC gaming, at least at the top end, is becoming a rich man's game.

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, Moonzy said:

i don't watch that guy, but did he also say that they'll launch this year at some point?

if you make enough guesses, one will come true, i suppose

Honestly I feel like this was pretty obvious this would happen. They did the same thing when they had a oversupply of existing gen cards that still haven't sold. Also nvidia had asked tsmc to allow them to delay their Wafer allocation on the newer process node. 

[CephDigital]

Probably so they can clear out the rest of the 30 series stock...

[Supreme Calamitas]

Fine then, delay them

 

But don't be pissed when you see me waiting at the factory door before they're shipped 

Edited August 16, 2022 by Marko1600
With an AK-47 😀

[Rauten]

As someone who intended to make a whole new build near the end of the year with a 4080 in it:

 

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Bloghag

[Rauten]

21 minutes ago, offweek said:

But now you get to use a 4090!

I'll burn your house down!

With the lemons 4090!

Actually, considering its potential power draw, that'd probably be easy to pull off.

[CTR640]

22 hours ago, BobVonBob said:

Many people will buy those cards, regardless of global inflation or the inflated prices of the cards. Look at the absolute glut of people that bought 30 series GPUs at more than double their original prices, or the daily new build thread with a $5,000+ budget to do nothing but gaming.

 

There are thousands of people out there to which a $2,000 GPU is chump change, and a (much) larger number of people that care more about having the best and shiniest things to brag about than making good financial decisions. The 3090 Ti is barely better than the 3080 Ti, is nearly twice the price, and people absolutely ate it up when it was new.

 

PC gaming, at least at the top end, is becoming a braindead PC gamertard game.

FTFY

 

It comes down to using common sense. You can be filthy rich but you don't buy expensive things because you use common sense and making good financial decisions. And you can be filthy rich and you MUST buy the most expensive and shiniest items ever "to feel beloved and important" at any cost.

[starsmine]

On 8/16/2022 at 11:33 AM, Moonzy said:

i don't watch that guy, but did he also say that they'll launch this year at some point?

if you make enough guesses, one will come true, i suppose

As one gets NEW information, analysis must be redone, and the new information makes you draw new conclusions. As you get closer to a launch, more and more of that information is set in stone, less likely to change.

Like you can leak the goal specs of a next gen chip over a year in advanced, and you would be CORRECT on those being the goal specs, and often times, those are hit, but often they are changed as realities of engineering it are found out. Does that mean the leaked goal specs were false? no. 
 

Things get delayed to, things get pushed up, specs change, none of those by definition make previous leaks false, No, the situation changed. 

The way some people here treat information/intelligence analysis here boggles my mind. You have a thing called confidence intervals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_confidence

MLID is usually rather explicit on using those as well, but yes, its easy to take the missis on the moderate and low confidence and use that to discredit analysis even though that's honestly, more misleading then the person you are trying to discredit. 

[TetraSky]

Oh great, more waiting... All because Nvidia wants to get rid of their old stocks, without heavily discounting it while the new stuff is available to not cannibalise its own sales.

Here's hoping AMD pulls through with their new lineup. 

[SeriousDad69]

Eh, if they want me to buy two year old crap so badly, sell me a 3080ti for $500 lol. That's about the only thing that would get me to buy Ampere at this point. Unfortunately I doubt it'll actually get that cheap, not with people like Jay making shill videos to get their bot legions to panic buy.

[Guest]

I'll hold out. 

 

The cards prices will fall and new cards will flood the market!!! I can do it. 

[porina]

Do feel free to offer perspectives but following is how I see it:

nvidia can't just fire sale GPUs to clear them out because everyone will have 30 series GPUs and no need to buy 40 series. Best plan is to keep selling at market rate.

 

The only thing I can see that might cause a 30 series pricing adjustment is if RDNA3 launches this year. Then what that adjustment might be depends on how aggressive AMD are with pricing. If RDNA2 is anything to go by, they're not pushing at all. So I wouldn't expect that to significantly alter pricing.

 

Who needs a 40 series? I'd argue it is most interesting in the short term to anyone who can't get a fast enough 30 series GPU. Only the highest of high end. Below top models is more a value question, and 30 series is still more than viable at the right price.

[tim0901]

2 hours ago, porina said:

Then what that adjustment might be depends on how aggressive AMD are with pricing. If RDNA2 is anything to go by, they're not pushing at all. So I wouldn't expect that to significantly alter pricing.

AMD not only needs aggressive pricing, but also stock. RDNA2 in theory should have been competitive, yet when you look at the number of cards sold Nvidia was the clear "winner" this generation, despite both companies being able to sell anything and everything they produced for over 12 months. Which means AMD just didn't produce as many cards as their competitor.

 

I think AMD stretched themselves too thin trying to supply Ryzen, Radeon and consoles all on the same process node. RDNA2 cards have been practically nonexistent in some regions - many European retailers reported recieving "zero stock" of Radeon products for launch - and as such people went Nvidia as they were more available.

 

Hopefully AMD has got more wafers this generation to increase supply, although at least by moving to a new node RDNA3/Zen4 won't be competing with the consoles anymore.

[WhitetailAni]

22 hours ago, starsmine said:

As one gets NEW information, analysis must be redone, and the new information makes you draw new conclusions. As you get closer to a launch, more and more of that information is set in stone, less likely to change.

Like you can leak the goal specs of a next gen chip over a year in advanced, and you would be CORRECT on those being the goal specs, and often times, those are hit, but often they are changed as realities of engineering it are found out. Does that mean the leaked goal specs were false? no. 
 

Things get delayed to, things get pushed up, specs change, none of those by definition make previous leaks false, No, the situation changed. 

The way some people here treat information/intelligence analysis here boggles my mind. You have a thing called confidence intervals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_confidence

MLID is usually rather explicit on using those as well, but yes, its easy to take the missis on the moderate and low confidence and use that to discredit analysis even though that's honestly, more misleading then the person you are trying to discredit. 

 

Toootally not just taking the "I play on all sides, that was I always come out on top" and "random bullshit GO!!" to heart.

 

[CTR640]

Even $500 is still too much for such 2 years old RTX3080. But of course, nGreedia won't lower the prices because they are in denial.

So Jensen can stick the RTX30 where RGB lights doesn't shine.

[SADS]

meh, surprise surprise.

hold off on the value products so the suckers can stock up on the expensive parts.

[AnonymousGuy]

I've been scooping up cheap 3000 series cards to add to my new mining fleet.  It was obvious that the rumors 2 months ago that the 4000 series was upon us wasn't going to happen and I'll happily load up on people panic selling and returning their cards.   I've got a solid 3 months more of churning profit.