NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 rumored to launch first, followed by RTX 4080 and the RTX 4070 after

[BiG StroOnZ]

Summary

According to recent rumors from Kopite7kimi, he claims NVIDIA is reportedly launching the higher-end GeForce RTX 4090 first, followed by RTX 4080 and lastly the RTX 4070; claiming it's in fact, confirmed. With rumors pointing to a potential July announcement date for NVIDIA's next-generation RTX 4000 series, the big question is which card will arrive first; according to the notable leaker, it will be the flagship RTX 4090. Meaning the RTX 4080 could land in August and 4070 later in September or October.

 

 

 

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According to the latest from leaker "kopite7kimi" the launch schedule for RTX 40 series is already confirmed, and it is not the same approach as RTX 30 “Ampere’s”. Rather than focus on the RTX 4080 series, NVIDIA would release its flagship RTX 4090 card first. With the current generation of cards, the RTX 3080 arrived first, on September 17, 2020, followed by the RTX 3090 on September 24, then the RTX 3070 on October 29. Kopite7kimi claims that with Lovelace, NVIDIA will release in reverse order of power (and expense): RTX 4090 first, followed by the RTX 4080 and then the RTX 4070 last. Assuming NVIDIA uses the same release cadence as Ampere and the RTX 4000 series is announced in mid-July, the RTX 4090 could launch in August. The RTX 4080 might arrive in the same month, with the RTX 4070 getting here in September or October.

 

NVIDIA has reportedly been focusing its development on the AD102 GPU found in the RTX 4090. The card is said to feature 96MB of L2 cache, 16 times more than its predecessor, 16,128 CUDA cores, 24GB of GDDR6X memory at 24Gbps and a TGP of 600W or more. The RTX 4080, meanwhile, is said to use the AD103 GPU, 64 MB of L2 cache, 16GB GDDR6X; while featuring a 350-450W TGP. And the RTX 4070 will use an AD104 GPU, 48 MB of L2 cache, 7680 CUDA cores, a total 12GB of GDDR6 memory, and have a 300W TGP. 

 

It should be noted that we have not yet heard anything about AD103 entering the testing phase, in fact, "kopite7kimi" has been very reluctant to confirm any new information to this GPU specifically. Therefore, one might assume that NVIDIA will choose AD102 GPU for this model instead.

 

My thoughts

Conceivably, we will discover if the specification and release schedules are credible in the coming weeks. And with video card prices continuing to stabilize along with availability, the RTX 4000-series is looking pretty appealing. This possibly means we might get these Ada Lovelace 4000-series cards at or close to MSRP. I'm looking forward to seeing the benchmarks for the RTX 4090 compared to the 3090 Ti, because the 4090 has a 50% increase in CUDA Cores compared to it. There was a leak from May 24nd that instead claimed the 4090 could have 18,432 CUDA Cores; which would be a 71% increase in CUDA Cores compared to the RTX 3090. While speculation, it's possible that is in actuality the RTX 4090 Ti, which should launch at a much later date to counter RDNA 3-powered Radeon RX 7000 series Navi 31 GPUs. Now while you should keep in mind that scaling isn't always linear, we still will see a massive uplift in performance going from the RTX 3090 Ti to an RTX 4090 or 4090 Ti, if these specs are even remotely accurate. Not much info on price, but $1,899 USD for the RTX 4090 is what one YouTuber suggests. The highest priced RTX 3090 is currently $2100 and the highest price 3090 Ti is $2050 on Newegg. So if that is anything to go by, the RTX 4090 is not going to be cheap. 

 

Sources

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-expected-to-launch-first-followed-by-rtx-4080-and-rtx-4070

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/86517/nvidia-launch-rumor-geforce-rtx-4090-first-4080-4070-after/index.html

https://www.techspot.com/news/94761-nvidia-rumored-launch-rtx-4090-first-rtx-4080.html

[ZetZet]

Hopefully 4080 is also most of the performance for half the price of a 4090. Even more hopefully AMD isn't late. Then maybe after like a year we can finally start buying these GPUs with a smaller scalper tax.

[WereCat]

7 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

Hopefully 4080 is also most of the performance for half the price of a 4090. Even more hopefully AMD isn't late. Then maybe after like a year we can finally start buying these GPUs with a smaller scalper tax.

See... NVIDIA already got you. I know this is rumour and nothing is really confirmed but if the 4090 truly starts at $1899 you're already hyping up a $900 to $1000 for 4080. 

 

Please, don't...

[ZetZet]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

See... NVIDIA already got you. I know this is rumour and nothing is really confirmed but if the 4090 truly starts at $1899 you're already hyping up a $900 to $1000 for 4080. 

 

Please, don't...

1000? I am expecting 4080 to cost 1500 in 2023.

[SimplyChunk]

We really have given them an "We can do what we want and get away with it badge" haven't we?

[suicidalfranco]

1 hour ago, ZetZet said:

Hopefully 4080 is also most of the performance for half the price of a 4090. Even more hopefully AMD isn't late. Then maybe after like a year we can finally start buying these GPUs with a smaller scalper tax.

Global shortage will linger for another couple of years, scalpers won't stop existing, geo political issues will intensify, possibilities of another pandemic...

 

Press X for doubt on availability of next generation cards.

[BiG StroOnZ]

5 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

We really have given them an "We can do what we want and get away with it badge" haven't we?

 

I remember when the OG Titan launched for $1000 and people balked. 

[ZetZet]

27 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

Global shortage will linger for another couple of years, scalpers won't stop existing, geo political issues will intensify, possibilities of another pandemic...

 

Press X for doubt on availability of next generation cards.

It's not only that. We also had inflation, prices of everything went up. Consoles are sitting on shelves right now, scalpers are definitely not buying them out, but the prices are nowhere near what they said they would be at launch. 

 

And GPUs also STILL have coiners mining. Even if it's slowing down now, you're getting an entire 2-3 years of people who were holding off upgrading looking for graphics cards now. It's a bit of a mess. I wish pc hardware operated like cars, buy from a dealer on list price and just wait your turn. (yes, I know US dealers have dealership markups too )

[CTR640]

Hopefully the RTX4080 will be launched for 2199 bucks so that will teach the scalpers HAHAHAHAHA!!

I want to see their faces hahaHAHAHAHA

 

Spoiler

 

[Shreyas1]

19 hours ago, BiG StroOnZ said:

 

I remember when the OG Titan launched for $1000 and people balked. 

And even then quite a few people bought it right? I mean at least enough for Nvidia to realize that they could reliably sell GPUs for 1k

 

4 minutes ago, CTR640 said:

Hopefully the RTX4080 will be launched for 2199 bucks so that will teach the scalpers HAHAHAHAHA!!

I want to see their faces hahaHAHAHAHA

 

It wont matter if they can just sell it for even just 100-200 bucks more. I mean they're buying 30 series in bulk

[CTR640]

1 minute ago, Shreyas1 said:

And even then quite a few people bought it right? I mean at least enough for Nvidia to realize that they could reliably sell GPUs for 1k

 

It wont matter if they can just sell it for even just 100-200 bucks more. I mean they're buying 30 series in bulk

Sadly true.

[SteveGrabowski0]

JFC 300W for the 4070? Makes Fermi look like a green release.

[BiG StroOnZ]

2 hours ago, Shreyas1 said:

And even then quite a few people bought it right? I mean at least enough for Nvidia to realize that they could reliably sell GPUs for 1k

 

Many people bought it and continued to buy Titans thereafter (or Titan class cards). Then there was the crowd that said to those people, "if you allow NVIDIA to sell a card for a $1000, in the future they may charge $1500-$2000 or even more".

 

Seems that those people were correct after all.

[ZetZet]

2 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

JFC 300W for the 4070? Makes Fermi look like a green release.

Does it matter how much total power a card uses? You have to look at relative performance and if there is something more efficient. I don't know of any card that can match a 3090 below 300w.

 

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 hour ago, ZetZet said:

Does it matter how much total power a card uses? You have to look at relative performance and if there is something more efficient. I don't know of any card that can match a 3090 below 300w.

 

Mostly just don't feel like buying a new PSU. Figured a high quality 450W unit would be plenty since it was enough to run a 2070 at the time. So much for that. Also don't like putting another 100W of heat in the house since I'm in Texas and this is already shaping up to be the worst summer in living memory (our May this year is like a typical August here, can't imagine how bad our August will be).

[ZetZet]

3 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Mostly just don't feel like buying a new PSU. Figured a high quality 450W unit would be plenty since it was enough to run a 2070 at the time. So much for that. Also don't like putting another 100W of heat in the house since I'm in Texas and this is already shaping up to be the worst summer in living memory (our May this year is like a typical August here, can't imagine how bad our August will be).

Then wait for the 4060, it will still be like 2x faster and fit in your power limit.

[Kisai]

On 5/30/2022 at 2:05 PM, WereCat said:

See... NVIDIA already got you. I know this is rumour and nothing is really confirmed but if the 4090 truly starts at $1899 you're already hyping up a $900 to $1000 for 4080. 

 

Please, don't...

Please note Canadian Dollar prices.

 

How you know a new GPU is imminent:

Everyone but ASUS decided to stop price gauging, ASUS dropped prices two months back.

 

What's even more interesting is if I go to the other computer store's site, there are OPEN BOX items for every tier.

 

You never see this many open box units. 

[ZetZet]

19 minutes ago, Kisai said:

What's even more interesting is if I go to the other computer store's site, there are OPEN BOX items for every tier.

You never see this many open box units. 

Retail store workers returning their mining GPUs? 

 

There is a massive amount of cards in stock in Europe too, I recently checked stock in one store that shows real stock numbers, a lot of cards are sitting at 20-30 units. PowerColor Devil RX 6750 XT is showing 100 cards in stock. 

[WereCat]

3 hours ago, Kisai said:

Please note Canadian Dollar prices.

 

How you know a new GPU is imminent:

Everyone but ASUS decided to stop price gauging, ASUS dropped prices two months back.

 

What's even more interesting is if I go to the other computer store's site, there are OPEN BOX items for every tier.

 

You never see this many open box units. 

Here in EU the price gauging depends on what tier you're looking at. 

 

Mid range typically Gigabyte and ASUS are the cheapest. 

 

High end MSI and Zotac. 

 

Low end typically Palit, Inno3D. 

 

 

For reference I've got RTX 3060ti Gigabyte Eagle v 2.0 for 760eur in last November and it arrived opened (still sealed in the plastic though). 

Today it goes for 530eu from the same retailer. 

2 days ago it was 560. Every day I check the prices are lower. 

 

 

Often its not listed if the box is opened, only if it was owned and returned.  Often retailers open the box and inspect the goods before sending it. 

 

I've got GTX 770 in 2014 and it arrived opened as well with AMD coupon for 2 games in the box.

[AnonymousGuy]

10 hours ago, Kisai said:

Please note Canadian Dollar prices.

 

How you know a new GPU is imminent:

Everyone but ASUS decided to stop price gauging, ASUS dropped prices two months back.

 

What's even more interesting is if I go to the other computer store's site, there are OPEN BOX items for every tier.

 

 

You never see this many open box units. 

This is more a reflection of people *speculating* a new release is imminent, along with the mining ROI days now extending out past a year for most cards.   There was a lot of free money floating around the past couple years between stimulus checks,  2% interest loans, mining being 180 day ROI, etc.  That's all coming to an end now so the paper-hands are all panicking that they might have to pay off their credit bills they charged these cards to.

 

*meh* if you're ("you" not you)  that sensitive where you can't float a balance for a few months it's probably a sign you shouldn't jump in the pool.

[niofalpha]

Finally got a 3000 series last month lmao

[Eaglerino]

3 hours ago, niofalpha said:

Finally got a 3000 series last month lmao

yeah me too but I really don't see them giving us another 50% performance boost over the last generation and I don't want to deal with another 2 years of scalpers

-this is how I sleep at night

[Quackers101]

would wait for a cheaper 3090 ti super. or a 4040 and 4440 super or would it be 3360 RTX super.

3 hours ago, Eaglerino said:

yeah me too but I really don't see them giving us another 50% performance boost over the last generation and I don't want to deal with another 2 years of scalpers

but they bought or invested into light chips, so we might get something... in the future.

[Imbadatnames]

But what about the 4090 BowTi?

[MadAnt250]

Boycott the RTX 4000 series, the is mess is still not fixed.