Don't Buy a Tesla... Buy This - Volvo XC40 Recharge EV Review

[jakkuh_t]

 

[Leek Soup]

That E60 M5 is sick, does it belong to Jake?

[jakkuh_t]

5 minutes ago, Leek Soup said:

That E60 M5 is sick, does it belong to Jake?

yus

[jpsulisz]

As someone who just financed a gasoline car - can't help but feel I couldn't have picked a worse time with electric ramping up as well as it is now lol

Looking forward to the Polestar review

[creesch]

Neat, though Alex calls it the first Volv electric which I guess is true in the sense that is the first Volvo branded electric but the polestar models are very much designed as well. 

 

[swimtome]

What did it say at end of intro card?

[creesch]

2 minutes ago, swimtome said:

What did it say at end of intro card?

https://www.deepl.com/translator#sv/en/handla pa LTT butik prick com

[Guest willies leg]

Reminds me of those articles back in the day, "Don't buy an iPhone, get a Blackberry!"

 

[poochyena]

Really hating all these cars have giant touchscreens. Are there any electric cars without touchscreens?

[Quackers101]

when jake came, he asked alex to go on a grand tour. LTT top gear edition.

While EV's still lack range for some people or issues due to charge stations or if every station is owned by tesla.

Spoiler

Also how good breaking works per EV car, haven't heard of that mode they mentioned and kinda wish it was more talked about, both around issues with overspeeding with EV's and having a good control of the speed without the need of breaking constantly by over acceleration? unlike other automatics or manual cars. I guess.

 

[sub68]

@AlexTheGreatish has pretty good taste in music.

 

I see doom with some eurobeat

[GDRRiley]

seems interesting but at 55-60k they need to cut the price by 10% or more to be more competitive with their gas offerings. that would put them both at around 40k (assuming a 10k tax break)

 

 

[Guest willies leg]

34 minutes ago, poochyena said:

Really hating all these cars have giant touchscreens. Are there any electric cars without touchscreens?

 

Yeah a backberry has a keyboard

 

[GDRRiley]

33 minutes ago, poochyena said:

Really hating all these cars have giant touchscreens. Are there any electric cars without touchscreens?

honda E is mostly tactile

but thats a non North America car (curse that move honda)

[Middcore]

38 minutes ago, poochyena said:

Really hating all these cars have giant touchscreens. Are there any electric cars without touchscreens?

You would have difficulty finding an ICE car these days without a touchscreen. 

[Guest willies leg]

26 minutes ago, Quackers101 said:

when jake came, he asked alex to go on a grand tour. LTT top gear edition.

While EV's still lack range for some people or issues due to charge stations or if every station is owned by tesla.

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Also how good breaking works per EV car, haven't heard of that mode they mentioned and kinda wish it was more talked about, both around issues with overspeeding with EV's and having a good control of the speed without the need of breaking constantly by over acceleration? unlike other automatics or manual cars. I guess.

 

 

Yeah electric car range is way different than gas car range.

On a gas car you need to go to a gas station to fill up.

An electric car, you leave your house every day with a charge.

 

Only time range is really an issue is with long trips, then it depends on the range of the car, the speed, and the outside temperature.

Outside temperature because heating the cabin takes a lot of electricity. On a gas car it's not as much of an issue because there's so much waste heat, just capturing like 20% of it heats up the cabin quite toasty. But on an electric, you need to make that heat somehow, no real waste heat from anything.

Also, speed/wind resistance is an issue. Same with a gas car, although they're so inefficient you don't really notice. Gas cars look really aerodynamic, but look past the grille and it's a big old flat radiator. Not very aerodynamic after all. Smooth front but not really, it's a big flat pancake radiator against the wind.

 

Regen is key too. On a gas car there's pretty much nothing to regen to. That's why they get better mileage on the highway instead of the city. So much wasted energy. In an electric, you capture that. Heck, I've driven to and from work and used the brake pedal maybe once or twice the whole trip most days. Brakes last like 100k+ miles easy.

 

 

 

 

[poochyena]

13 minutes ago, Middcore said:

You would have difficulty finding an ICE car these days without a touchscreen. 

Thats unfortunate. I will want a new car in the next 3 years or so, but I have no interested in a car without physical buttons or knobs for all the basic controls.

[Middcore]

2 minutes ago, poochyena said:

Thats unfortunate. I will want a new car in the next 3 years or so, but I have no interested in a car without physical buttons or knobs for all the basic controls.

There is a middle ground between "no touchscreen" and "touchscreen for all controls." 

[poochyena]

2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

There is a middle ground between "no touchscreen" and "touchscreen for all controls." 

Of course, but most of these car videos I've seen have been 95% touchscreen.

I looked around and just saw this car, it looks to be almost all physical control which is great https://www.miniusa.com/model/electric-hardtop.html#inter-section

Too bad the range is a little low

[poptonite]

What did Alex mean in the outro when he said, "a tenth of the budget and a third of the team"? It sounds like those would be cost saving measures but then follows up with, "we need to make money on these if we want to do more." Is Alex referring to past car review videos and revealing that they haven't been profitable, hence a reduction in budget and staff?

 

I need more context in order to understand what Alex meant.

[Fizzle]

1 hour ago, Middcore said:

There is a middle ground between "no touchscreen" and "touchscreen for all controls." 

I-Pace does this well all the buttons that matter are physical and easy to find without looking. Admittedly the infotainment is not great but the navigation does well and displays the directions on the HUD. For everything else I have my phone/switch/laptop/book/whatever. I don't think these large touch screens will age well. It is like trying to put a tablet in a fridge.. in 5 years time you are still going to have the fridge but with a shit 5 year old tablet in it.

 

I bought mine, with substantial post lockdown discounts, before the chip shortages started to bite and absolutely loving it. Not cheap though but a fantastic drive WAAAAY better than a Tesla. Also has a compartment for you sunglasses in the roof and a rather nice interior (with RGB).

 

[IkeaGnome]

3 hours ago, poochyena said:

Of course, but most of these car videos I've seen have been 95% touchscreen.

I looked around and just saw this car, it looks to be almost all physical control which is great https://www.miniusa.com/model/electric-hardtop.html#inter-section

Too bad the range is a little low

It's not available here in the states.... go figure..., but in Norway I had a rental Golf GTE. I was pleasantly surprised with it. 53ish MPG, and wasn't all touch screen. It did have RGB though. 

[Ultraforce]

3 hours ago, poochyena said:

Of course, but most of these car videos I've seen have been 95% touchscreen.

I looked around and just saw this car, it looks to be almost all physical control which is great https://www.miniusa.com/model/electric-hardtop.html#inter-section

Too bad the range is a little low

I believe the main needed stuff all has physical buttons in the Chevrolet Bolt EV. Though I don't know if they have a good enough range.

[YellowJersey]

TBH, I hate the current implementation of touch screens in cars. You need to take your eyes off the road to look at the screen to do anything infotainment or climate control. Give me physical buttons and knobs for volume, change radio station, temps up/down, and which vents the air is coming out of. The more I can do by feel without having to take my eyes off the road, the better.

[wanderingfool2]

10 hours ago, willies leg said:

Yeah electric car range is way different than gas car range.

On a gas car you need to go to a gas station to fill up.

An electric car, you leave your house every day with a charge.

While this is true, it's also important to note that battery management needs to start becoming a thing that people think about.  The BMS of the vehicle could mean a lot. Like using options to charge to only to 90% charge; also the recommended to try staying about 20% charge....that drops the effective range for vehicle longevity to around 250km, which still isn't that bad [but something to keep note of]...or take the Leaf as an example...terrible cooling system causes the range to drastically drop if used in hot climates (and never recover).  I'm sure this isn't as bad, but when looking at the range it is important to think about where the vehicle will be in 5-10 years  Even Tesla, which has one of the best batteries and management systems still have 95% life after 50,000 km [Bolts appears to be 90-93% depend on which data].

 

It actually does start worrying me that they use LG Chem batteries though...the two major EV recalls (bolt and kona) have been EV batteries that LG chem has manufactured.  So it would always make me a bit skeptical whether or not the batteries used here would be better.  At this stage of going EV it could really be disastrous if we get another mass recall due to battery issues.  Time will tell though.