Samsung aims to release 34" OLED ultrawide monitors in 2022

[Stahlmann]

Summary

OLED displays already conquered the high-end TV market because of their inherited technological advantages compared to their LCD counterparts. Samsung seems to be the first brand trying to get gaming monitors to the people using their new QD-OLED (Quantum Dot Organic Light Emitting Diode) display technology.

 

Quotes

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QD Display will mass-produce 65- and 55-inch TVs and 34-inch monitors, see market reactions, and decide whether to increase production, next year's sales target is minimal, but we're looking forward to five years. - Choi Joo-sun (CEO of Samsung Display)

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Small and medium-sized displays have taken all-time sales, sales, and utilization rates this time," and "AR· OLED is not yet very important in the vr (augmented reality, virtual reality), gaming, and laptop markets. That's how much potential the display has. - Choi Joo-sun (CEO of Samsung Display)

My thoughts

Samsung wants to take the initiative and bring OLED to monitors, which makes me personally very happy. Ever since i have had my C9 OLED i have been looking forward to see this technology in monitors. OLED's inherently fast pixel response times and superb picture quality can help Samsung to release some currently unrivaled products.

 

As there are no displays using Samsungs QD-OLED technology currently on the market there is no information about how susceptible they are to burn-in. And because of this we also don't have any context for how pricing may play out.

 

Another problem is that Samsung has had a lot of issues with recent monitor releases. The original G7 and G9, plus the newer Neo G9 models have been plagued with issues since their original launch. Some of these issues are solved while others still linger around.

 

I'm very interested in how this plays out. Maybe we'll see other brands like LG jumping on the band wagon.

 

Sources

CHOI JOO-SUN'S FUTURE STRATEGY...'QD COMMERCIALIZATION· OLED TRANSITION' (edaily.co.kr)

 

[Skiiwee29]

This definitely has potential so long as they can cure the OLED burn-in. That will be very problematic for gaming since HUD's are generally static and a lot of people have a favorite game they ALWAYS play. Also, this would essentially force to have a revolving/changing background in windows and hiding the taskbar to prevent that from burning in as well. However, it definitely has possibilities. 

[cj09beira]

Best news i heard all year, something tells me it wont be cheap though.

[Fasterthannothing]

This is awesome might be time to upgrade my ultra wide

[Lightwreather]

Huh, Samsung selling OLED panels after vehemently refusing to do so. Nice. Shows that maybe OLED has something.

[jaslion]

Confidence that these will be any good is low since their current ultrawides are just a big bag of crap unless you get lucky. That and burn in.

[Stahlmann]

6 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Confidence that these will be any good is low since their current ultrawides are just a big bag of crap unless you get lucky. That and burn in.

I'd argue that OLED displays are easier to do because they have less parts, like not having to introduce complicated FALD backlights. But yes, seeing how the Neo G9 went my hopes aren't that high. I'll definetly not pre-order anything from them. But who knows, maybe they turn out great. I'm sure Hardware Unboxed will be all over it when it finally comes.

[Curufinwe_wins]

A 34 inch ultrawide OLED would finally be something worthy of replacing my PG348Q...

[Stahlmann]

4 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

A 34 inch ultrawide OLED would finally be something worthy of replacing my PG348Q...

I just hope it's not a 1000R curve again...

[WereCat]

Lets hope they first improve their monitor and TV QA because its horrible. 

 

[Doobeedoo]

While it sounds awesome, I'm still rather skeptical using OLED for a monitor. I doubt a company would create problems for them selves with them getting burn-in issues and returns within a year. Then on the other hand, since it seems they're actually doing this, maybe they found some way to improve upon the issue? I guess we will have to see, also over time how it turns out. Even on top of that, price for sure will be very high and when you also include the risk, yeah really not sure how it will go.

Definitely glad that we may finally start moving away from LCD in monitor space, but it will be very slow sadly. Even these are not here yet, can't even imagine MicroLED when.

 

Personally not fan of ultra-wide a bit odd choice they're going really. Though I guess maybe better than LG with their 48" even 42" it's just huge. I'd like to see Samsung do a 32" 4k 240Hz OLED though, that would be way more appealing to see. Also in time I'd expect someone to make an 1080p 1000Hz OLED esports monitor.

 

So in short, main issue, burn-in, how sure are they about that not being an issue since they're giving it a go for a monitor? Another is price, even todays top monitors are insanely priced, while being LCD and first gen OLED ones, can expect quite insane price.

[Stahlmann]

47 minutes ago, Doobeedoo said:

Personally not fan of ultra-wide a bit odd choice they're going really. Though I guess maybe better than LG with their 48" even 42" it's just huge. I'd like to see Samsung do a 32" 4k 240Hz OLED though, that would be way more appealing to see. Also in time I'd expect someone to make an 1080p 1000Hz OLED esports monitor.

To be fair most of Samsungs recent higher end offerings have been odd choices. 1000R curve, 32:9 aspect ratio, etc. But i do appreciate them trying new things instead of offering the same monitors as their competitors.

 

4K 240Hz would actually be possible with current DP 1.4 DSC capable GPUs. At least in terms of bandwidth capabilities, not performance of course (other than CS:GO, Valorant, Rainbow Six Siege, the usual)

 

And thanks to OLED actually having >1ms pixel response time without any marketing mumbo jumbo a 1000Hz panel would even be possible for hardcore e-sport people.

[DededeKirby]

Dang, I just bought that new Gigabyte IPS ultrawide on Newegg! Well, at least there'll be more upgrade options for 34" ultrawides when the time comes I suppose... Hopefully they'll add high refresh rates later on if they don't directly release with them.

[CTR640]

Ultrawide monitors.... Ugh, why not 16:9 and 16:10 monitors. What is Samsung thinking to not release the latter?

But Samsung have a bad reputation regarding G9/Neo and other G series monitors so they better gotta improve their quality-control. But the prices will probably too high. If only ultrawide OLED monitors, then LG 42C2 it is.

[IPD]

Another prison-window display offering.  Le Sigh.

[Quackers101]

price +++++

durability issues and cheap design like their other wide monitors?

thanks samsung, and for multi-monitor, one side of the monitor will be used more and have more static images?

[tikker]

I'm curious how a QD version will compare to a normal one. It will probably be expensive, but it's good to see some serious offers coming in. Personally I'm still not sure I'd dare use an OLED as monitor with all the static elements.

[Stahlmann]

24 minutes ago, tikker said:

I'm curious how a QD version will compare to a normal one. It will probably be expensive, but it's good to see some serious offers coming in. Personally I'm still not sure I'd dare use an OLED as monitor with all the static elements.

Afaik QD OLEDs are significantly different from LG's OLED panels. They don't use a WRGB subpixel structure, which will improve color volume and text clarity for PC users. LG OLEDs currently cannot cover the brighter colors as well because they need the 4th white subpixel to boost brightness, which results in less color saturation at higher brightness. I'm very interested how this newer OLED technology from Samsung will stack up.

 

30 minutes ago, Quackers101 said:

price +++++

durability issues and cheap design like their other wide monitors?

thanks samsung, and for multi-monitor, one side of the monitor will be used more and have more static images?

Like i said above, we don't know yet how susceptible these panels will be to burn in. For all we know it might be a non-issue, or it might be worse. Time will tell.

Pricing will likely be several thousand $ for this one. It's going to serve the ultra-high-end market with the usual early-adopter tax.

[Stahlmann]

1 hour ago, IPD said:

Another prison-window display offering.  Le Sigh.

21:9 Ultrawide is not really "prison window" imo. It adds a lot of immersion without being ridiculous like the 32:9 super-ultrawides.

 

I had an ultrawide several years ago, then went back to 16:9 and ultimately ended up at 21:9 again because it's just better for a computer monitor imo. The wider screen helps me with multitasking and like i said it adds some more immersion to your games. But you have to be willing to tinker a bit though to make some games work perfectly.

[Quackers101]

5 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

I had an ultrawide several years ago, then went back to 16:9 and ultimately ended up at 21:9 again because it's just better for a computer monitor imo. The wider screen helps me with multitasking and like i said it adds some more immersion to your games. But you have to be willing to tinker a bit though to make some games work perfectly.

until its all in VR

[IPD]

5 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

21:9 Ultrawide is not really "prison window" imo. It adds a lot of immersion without being ridiculous like the 32:9 super-ultrawides.

 

I had an ultrawide several years ago, then went back to 16:9 and ultimately ended up at 21:9 again because it's just better for a computer monitor imo. The wider screen helps me with multitasking and like i said it adds some more immersion to your games. But you have to be willing to tinker a bit though to make some games work perfectly.

http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-21x9-vs-40-inch-16x9

 

I'll keep 16:9

[Stahlmann]

7 hours ago, IPD said:

http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-21x9-vs-40-inch-16x9

 

I'll keep 16:9

Your choice, but for me personally 40"+ 16:9 displays are out of the question. They're just too damn big for the distance i'm sitting at. Plus the PPI is not as good anymore, resulting in roughly the same sharpness as a 27" 1440p monitor.

[Stahlmann]

7 hours ago, Quackers101 said:

until its all in VR

No i tried it several times, VR is not something worth investing into atm. Until we can figure out a way to freely move in VR without needing a joystick or ingame teleporting. Plus the VR space is heavily lacking good games. Most of them are just short games or simple concepts like a shooting range, etc.

[Moonzy]

How fast does OLED degrade? Does the color dull after a year if I crank up the brightness? (I do game at high brightness for lower reaction time)

 

I want OLED for their response time, but not if that means I have to change my monitor yearly

 

Also, Samsung display, they've been having issues lately (some blame DSC too, idk)

[Stahlmann]

19 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

How fast does OLED degrade? Does the color dull after a year if I crank up the brightness? (I do game at high brightness for lower reaction time)

So far i've used my C9 OLED for two years, probably about 2-4 hours each day if i'd have to guess the average. Most of the time i play HDR games when using the TV, so it mostly runs at higher brightness. So far there is absolutely no sign of image degradation, worse colors, lower brightness or burn in. I just calibrated it again 1 week ago, so i don't just know from a subjective point of view, but also the measurement values that haven't changed since my first calibration when the TV was a bout 2 weeks old.

 

19 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

I want OLED for their response time, but not if that means I have to change my monitor yearly

Samsung's QD OLED is very different from LG's current WRGB OLED panels. So anything we currently know about LG's OLED longevity or picture quality (color gamut, accuracity, text sharpness etc.) does not apply. And right now there is no QD OLED panel on the market, so we have absolutely no context to make any claims about that kind of stuff.

 

19 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

Also, Samsung display, they've been having issues lately (some blame DSC too, idk)

Yeah the blame on DSC is BS. There are plenty of brands using it nowadays, and i've not seen any signs of it introducing problems. Samsung's bad firmware is on Samsung alone.