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This should be illegal… - Manufacturers are swapping SSD components

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Bait & switch is a common deception technique that's as old as time itself, but usually it's only seen being done by bad actors. What if I told you that this is happening today, right now, on sites like Amazon and Newegg, with some of the best selling SSDs?

 

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Got an SX8200 Pro and got lucky to receive a stable version, after RMA, when the drive started to develop anomalies... (one year ago)

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Just to add, I've bought 100+ items from Aliexpress, including SSDs, but only 2 cheap items are bad (SSDs are not one of those). For one, after RMA I got a refund soon.

 

... but I'm no expert.

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What's the tool used to check which variant it is? Have 3 of them and would be interesting to see what I have...

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4 hours ago, Kilrah said:

What's the tool used to check which variant it is? Have 3 of them and would be interesting to see what I have...

http://vlo.name:3000/tmph/smi_nvme_flash_id.rar

 

It doesn't always accurately report the DRAM, but everything else is accurate. Also prints out a text document with SMART and block data. 

 

Edit: Just to be clear, use this tool at your own risk. I'm not sure who the developer is, this has been cited a lot elsewhere and appears to be safe, but always act with caution when a piece of software isn't digitally signed or traceable to a developer (and even then.)

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I got two SX 8200 Pros right before the news broke they had switched them.

 

Mine didn't hit their full rated speed but I've never had an SSD that did I don't think and they were fast "enough."

 

Then one of them started to die on me in just six months of use. That one just got sent in for RMA, and when I get it back I am going to try to sell the pair locally. I am back to Samsung for SSD's, every one I have ever used has been absolutely bulletproof. 

Your "PC master race" thing is cringe. 

 

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Yaeh, got a good controller version (SM2262EN):

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Also the SSD tier list makers are somewhat aware of whats going on. But perhaps SX8200 Pro should be in lower tier for now?

 

... but I'm no expert.

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1 minute ago, Zodiark1593 said:

The listed spec for SSDs really needs to be changed to state minimums, rather than the BS that is "Up To".

 

Could be less! Could be a lot less.

 

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Your "PC master race" thing is cringe. 

 

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SMI NVME SSD flash id v0.24a by Ochkin Vadim
OS: 10.0 build 21390
 0: (ADATA SX8200PNP
 1: NVMe    Samsung SSD 970

Please select drive number:0

Drive     : 0(NVME)
Scsi      : 1
IOCtl: NVME_OF failed 0x45d!
Driver    : W10
Model     : ADATA SX8200PNP
Fw        : 32A0T2IA
Size      : 488386 MB [512.1 GB]
LBA Size  : 512
Controller: SM2262 [SM2262AB]
FW revision: 32A0T2IA
ROM version: 2262ROM:SVN00235
Bank00: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank01: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank02: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank03: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank04: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank05: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank06: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank07: 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
--- Experimental ---
FlashID : 0x2c,0xc4,0x18,0x32,0xa2,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(B27A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Channel               : 8
Ch map                : 0xFF
CE map                : 0x01
Pages/Block           : 5184
First Fblock          : 1
Total Fblock          : 236
Bad Block From Pretest: 9
Start TLC/MLC Fblock  : 17
DRAM Info             : [0x4F 0x42]
DRAM Size,MB          : 512 (possible incorrect)
DRAM Bus,bit          : 32
DRAM Type             : DDR3
DRAM Vendor           : Samsung
UEFI OROM             : Disable
Telemetry v8

I bought my 512 GB SX8200 Pro from CCL Computers in July 2020.

 

Is the SM2262AB considered fine or rubbish?

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Hey Guys. I have two of those (1TB variants) bought like 1,5 years apart. Is there anywhere I can supply more data into the matter?

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Drive     : 1(NVME)
Scsi      : 2
IOCtl: NVME_OF failed 0x45d!
Driver    : W10
Model     : ADATA SX8200PNP
Fw        : 42B9T6TB
Size      : 1953514 MB [2048.4 GB]
LBA Size  : 512
Controller: SM2262EN [SM2262BA]
FW revision: 42B9T6TB
ROM version: 2262B0ROM:SVN047
Bank00: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank01: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank02: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank03: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank04: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank05: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank06: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank07: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank08: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank09: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank10: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank11: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank12: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank13: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank14: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank15: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank16: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank17: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank18: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank19: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank20: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank21: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank22: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank23: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank24: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank25: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank26: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank27: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank28: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank29: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank30: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank31: 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
--- Experimental ---
FlashID : 0xec,0x1e,0x98,0xbf,0x84,0xcc,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv5-92L TLC 16k 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Channel               : 8
Ch map                : 0xFF
CE map                : 0x0F
Pages/Block           : 1104
First Fblock          : 1
Total Fblock          : 2000
Bad Block From Pretest: 8
Start TLC/MLC Fblock  : 100
DRAM Info             : [0x45 0x62]
DRAM Size,MB          : 2048 (possible incorrect)
DRAM Bus,bit          : 32
DRAM Type             : DDR4
DRAM Vendor           : Samsung
UEFI OROM             : Disable
Telemetry v8

This is what I get from my 2TB SX8200 Pro that I bought in May. The Amazon listing explicitly stated that it had a SM2262EN which is nice.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE | Storage: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2TB ADATA SX8200 Pro (SM2262EN) | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850

 

Server: CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K | RAM: 32GB (8x4GB) DDR3-1600 | Motherboard: ASUS P9X79 Pro | Storage: 256GB Apple SSUBX, 256GB Crucial MX100, 4TB Seagate IronWolf, 1.2TB ioDrive2 PCIe SSD, 3x1TB HDD | GPU: GTX 560 2GB | Cooling: Arctic Freezer 34 | Case: NZXT H500 (Black) | PSU: NZXT C 750W (Gold)

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Here are mine:
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v0.231a
OS: 10.0 build 19041 
Drive     : 0(NVME)
Scsi      : 1
Driver    : W10
Model     : ADATA SX8200PNP                         
Fw        : S0118C  
Size      : 976762 MB [1024.2 GB]
LBA Size  : 512
AdminCmd  : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0x84 0xC0 0xC1 0xC2 0xD1 0xD2 0xE0
I/O Cmd   : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x08 0x09
Controller : SM2262EN [SM2262AA] 
FW revision: S0118C__
ROM version: 2262B0ROM:SVN047
Bank00: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank01: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank02: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank03: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank04: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank05: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank06: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank07: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank08: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank09: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank10: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank11: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank12: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank13: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank14: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank15: 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
--- Experimental ---
FlashID : 0x2c,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Channel               : 8
Ch map                : 0xFF
CE map                : 0x03
First Fblock          : 1
Total Fblock          : 504
Bad Block From Pretest: 14
Start TLC/MLC Fblock  : 28
DRAM Info             : [0x4F 0x50]
DRAM Size,MB          : 1024 (possible incorrect)
DRAM Bus,bit          : 32
DRAM Type             : DDR3
DRAM Vendor           : Nanya
 

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v0.231a
OS: 10.0 build 19041 
Drive     : 1(NVME)
Scsi      : 2
Driver    : W10
Model     : ADATA SX8200PNP                         
Fw        : 42B2S7JA
Size      : 976762 MB [1024.2 GB]
LBA Size  : 512
AdminCmd  : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0x84 0xC0 0xC1 0xC2 0xE0
I/O Cmd   : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x08 0x09
Controller : SM2262EN [SM2262BA] 
FW revision: 42B2S7JA
ROM version: 2262B0ROM:SVN047
Bank00: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank01: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank02: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank03: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank04: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank05: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank06: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank07: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank08: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank09: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank10: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank11: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank12: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank13: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank14: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank15: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank16: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank17: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank18: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank19: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank20: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank21: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank22: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank23: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank24: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank25: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank26: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank27: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank28: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank29: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank30: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank31: 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
--- Experimental ---
FlashID : 0xec,0x1c,0x98,0x3f,0x84,0xcb,0x0,0x0 - Samsung 3dv4-64L TLC 16k 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Channel               : 8
Ch map                : 0xFF
CE map                : 0x0F
First Fblock          : 1
Total Fblock          : 1426
Bad Block From Pretest: 12
Start TLC/MLC Fblock  : 69
DRAM Info             : [0x4F 0x52]
DRAM Size,MB          : 1024 (possible incorrect)
DRAM Bus,bit          : 32
DRAM Type             : DDR3
DRAM Vendor           : Samsung
 

Both come out as SM2262EN, but each has different DRAM Vendor. Nanya and Samsung

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Well, that sim tools doesn't work for me ( error: can't open drive ). But Aida64 shows something. It seems like I've got Variant "B".
 

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Variant A on my oldest one. The other 2 are in RAID so I can't check now.

 

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SMI NVME SSD flash id v0.24a by Ochkin Vadim
OS: 10.0 build 19043
 0: (ADATA SX8200PNP
 1: IntelRaid 0 Volume
 2: IntelRaid 0 Volume
 3:  USB SanDisk 3.2Gen1
 4: MSFTXVDD
Please select drive number:0
Drive     : 0(NVME)
Scsi      : 0
IOCtl: NVME_OF failed 0x45d!
Driver    : W10
Model     : ADATA SX8200PNP
Fw        : SS0411BB
Size      : 1953514 MB [2048.4 GB]
LBA Size  : 512
Controller: SM2262EN [SM2262BA]
FW revision: SS0411B_
ROM version: 2262B0ROM:SVN047
Bank00: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank01: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank02: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank03: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank04: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank05: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank06: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank07: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank08: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank09: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank10: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank11: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank12: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank13: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank14: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank15: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank16: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank17: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank18: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank19: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank20: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank21: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank22: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank23: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank24: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank25: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank26: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank27: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank28: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank29: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank30: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Bank31: 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
--- Experimental ---
FlashID : 0x89,0xc4,0x8,0x32,0xa6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Intel 64L(B17A) TLC 512Gb/CE 512Gb/die
Channel               : 8
Ch map                : 0xFF
CE map                : 0x0F
Pages/Block           : 2304
First Fblock          : 1
Total Fblock          : 504
Bad Block From Pretest: 12
Start TLC/MLC Fblock  : 31
DRAM Info             : [0x45 0x62]
DRAM Size,MB          : 2048 (possible incorrect)
DRAM Bus,bit          : 32
DRAM Type             : DDR4
DRAM Vendor           : Samsung
UEFI OROM             : Disable
Telemetry v8

 

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Both of mine are using SM2262EN controller and 96L Micron NAND.

But one is using SAMSUNG DDR3 and the other Nanya.

 

I got them about 1 year apart from each other, 1TB versions.

 

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512G drive bought from CCLOnline in the UK (via their eBay storefront) in October 2019.

 

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v0.24a
OS: 10.0 build 19042
Drive     : 5(NVME)
Scsi      : 3
Driver    : W10
Model     : ADATA SX8200PNP                         
Fw        : S0118C  
Size      : 488386 MB [512.1 GB]
LBA Size  : 512
AdminCmd  : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0x84 0xC0 0xC1 0xC2 0xD1 0xD2 0xE0
I/O Cmd   : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x08 0x09
Controller: SM2262EN [SM2262AA]
FW revision: S0118C__
ROM version: 2262B0ROM:SVN047
Bank00: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank01: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank02: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank03: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank04: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank05: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank06: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank07: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank08: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank09: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank10: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank11: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank12: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank13: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank14: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank15: 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
--- Experimental ---
FlashID : 0x2c,0xa4,0x8,0x32,0xa1,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 64L(B16A) TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Channel               : 8
Ch map                : 0xFF
CE map                : 0x03
Pages/Block           : 2304
First Fblock          : 1
Total Fblock          : 504
Bad Block From Pretest: 11
Start TLC/MLC Fblock  : 25
DRAM Info             : [0x4F 0x40]
DRAM Size,MB          : 512 (possible incorrect)
DRAM Bus,bit          : 32
DRAM Type             : DDR3
DRAM Vendor           : Nanya
UEFI OROM             : Disable

 

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I thought this was widely known, more specifically from Kingston?

They have been doing this to SD and microSD cards back when 64GB cards were quite high-end

If you have an old microSD kingston card laying around, do some benchmarks and check if it matches the class that's printed on it.

It will likely not meet the specs.

 

They still do this today btw. But nobody cares these days I guess.


Source is dutch but benchmarks speak for themselves:

https://be.hardware.info/artikel/4527/8/49-sd--en-microsd-kaartjes-review-alle-kaarten-op-tafel-testresultaten-1000x-5-mb-schrijven

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Mine bought a month ago is on SM2262EN. The performance numbers with 3k-3.5k read, and 2.6-2.9k write so it seems to be stable, despite the flash memory being some new memory factory in China I saw on the news recently YMTC.

  

v0.24a
OS: 10.0 build 19043 
Drive     : 1(NVME)
Scsi      : 1
Driver    : W10
Model     : ADATA SX8200PNP                         
Fw        : 42G1TBKA
Size      : 976762 MB [1024.2 GB]
LBA Size  : 512
AdminCmd  : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0x84 0xC0 0xC1 0xC2 0xE0
I/O Cmd   : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x08 0x09
Controller: SM2262EN [SM2262BA] 
FW revision: 42G1TBKA
ROM version: 2262BCROM:S0715A
Bank00: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank01: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank02: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank03: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank04: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank05: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank06: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank07: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank08: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank09: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank10: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank11: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank12: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank13: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank14: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank15: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank16: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank17: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank18: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank19: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank20: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank21: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank22: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank23: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank24: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank25: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank26: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank27: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank28: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank29: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank30: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Bank31: 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
--- Experimental ---
FlashID : 0x9b,0xc3,0x48,0x25,0x10,0x0,0x0,0x0 - YMTC TLC 256Gb/CE 256Gb/die
Channel               : 8
Ch map                : 0xFF
CE map                : 0x0F
Pages/Block           : 1152
First Fblock          : 1
Total Fblock          : 1006
Bad Block From Pretest: 21
Start TLC/MLC Fblock  : 49
DRAM Info             : [0x4F 0x50]
DRAM Size,MB          : 1024 (possible incorrect)
DRAM Bus,bit          : 32
DRAM Type             : DDR3
DRAM Vendor           : Nanya
UEFI OROM             : Disable

SM2262 Telemetry data:
VERSION                                                  :                8
Re-allocated Sector Count (TLC/MLC)                      :                0
Re-allocated Sector Count (SLC)                          :                0
Power-on Hours Count                                     :              181
Uncorrectable Error Count (XOR Fail) (TLC/MLC)           :                0
Uncorrectable Error Count (XOR Fail) (SLC)               :                0
ECCUnc (Soft LDPC fail) (TLC/MLC)                        :                0
Soft LDPC correction event count (TLC/MLC)               :               -1
TLC read retry fail (TLC/MLC)                            :                0
SLC read retry fail (SLC)                                :               -1
Temperature                                              :              317
RE-allocated Sector Events                               :               55
Total LBAs Written                                       :       3541519286
Total LBAs Read                                          :       4574723161
PS3 Count                                                :                0
PS4 Count                                                :                0
L1.2 Count                                               :               -1
TLC Available Spare Blocks (TLC/MLC)                     :               86
SLC Available Spare Blocks (SLC)                         :               29
WearRangeDelta (TLC/MLC)                                 :                0
WearRangeDelta (SLC)                                     :                0
High Temp                                                :              331
Low Temp                                                 :              301
Avg Temp                                                 :              316
Recent High                                              :               -1
Recent Low                                               :               -1
Auto Calibration FailCount                               :               -1
SLC Nand Data Read (SLC)                                 :       2839605696
TLC Nand Data Read (TLC/MLC)                             :       4228794368
Valid block counts                                       :               -1
SLC NAND Writes (SLC)                                    :       3247104512
TLC NAND writes (TLC/MLC)                                :       1517737984
TLC Wearing Leveling Count (TLC/MLC)                     :                0
SLC Wearing Leveling Count (SLC)                         :                0
TLC NAND writes due to Wearing Leveling (TLC/MLC)        :                0
SLC NAND writes due to Wearing Leveling (SLC)            :                0
Current TLC spare super block (TLC/MLC)                  :              454
Current SLC spare super block (SLC)                      :               39
SLC to TLC defrag count                                  :               -1
TLC Defrag count                                         :         16515072
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"This should be illegal"

 

it is in some countries 😛

 

They just need reporting.

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I've compared my benchmark to an original benchmark of the SX 8200 PRO

 

Mine:

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Original (from this review in 2019)

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I think at least for me, my conclusion is getting a recent revision, the SSD claimed stats are still there, but they engaged on a lottery of revisions that don't perform the same, at that, it seems it'll get more common as some keep saying SSD componentes are the new GPUs as far shortages are concerned.

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23 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

I thought this was widely known, more specifically from Kingston?

They have been doing this to SD and microSD cards back when 64GB cards were quite high-end

If you have an old microSD kingston card laying around, do some benchmarks and check if it matches the class that's printed on it.

It will likely not meet the specs.

 

They still do this today btw. But nobody cares these days I guess.


Source is dutch but benchmarks speak for themselves:

https://be.hardware.info/artikel/4527/8/49-sd--en-microsd-kaartjes-review-alle-kaarten-op-tafel-testresultaten-1000x-5-mb-schrijven

Don’t know of anyone buying Kingston cards tbh. Certainly no professional photographers or videographers I’m aware of are using them. Anecdotal, but could well be a case of no one cares because no one is using them anyway. 

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Hopefully the MP600 500GB and 2x A2000 1TB hold up to their name and spesifications.. would hate to complain to a manufacturer or the store we buyed parts at -_-

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Apart from Samsung, which other brands/manufacturers are reliable?

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7 minutes ago, Petrosou said:

Apart from Samsung, what other manufacturers are reliable?

Samsung, Micron, and Western Digital all have near-total or total vertical integration in their SSD lineups. (All 3 brands have at least some products that are designed entirely in-house, since they all produce & design DRAM, NAND, and controllers)

 

That doesn't necessarily mean that they're more reliable or better than other brands, Sabrent has an excellent track record and they use Phison controllers on their drives. It just means that they have full control over the supply chain and components that go into their SSDs. 

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13 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Don’t know of anyone buying Kingston cards tbh. Certainly no professional photographers or videographers I’m aware of are using them. Anecdotal, but could well be a case of no one cares because no one is using them anyway. 

Pro people don't buy them, very true.

Also not exactly the market Kingston focuses on.

The market is actually the average person that just wants a microSD for their car or phone to get some more storage. People that usually don't look further than what's on the box and probably don't even know what GB means.

That's the kind of person that buys kingston cards.

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