What's a tech term you hate?

[wseaton]

Network Engineer

 

I've almost got into fistfight over this one. Sorry, but after a couple decades in Enterprise IT i have waaaaaay higher standards for anybody who uses the term "Engibeer" in their job title. Ive worked with electrical engineers, chemical engineers, software engineers, etc. 

 

The typical "Network Engineer" I encounter just plugs routes and subnets into CLI interfaces and spends waaaay too much time creating superfluous VLANs while simultaneously ignoring anything involving layer 7 and legit security mitigation. They dont engineer squat except higher equipment costs because anything that moves a packet needs to be "managed'. 

 

[whm1974]

I refuse to Marketing Terms disguised as Tech Terms. Apple Computer anyone?

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, whm1974 said:

I refuse to Marketing Terms disguised as Tech Terms. Apple Computer anyone?

And everyone else.  That’s been a thing for a hundred years.  One of the most famously abusive is “jaywalker” but there are hundreds or thousands of others.

[IPD]

9 hours ago, wseaton said:

Network Engineer

 

I've almost got into fistfight over this one. Sorry, but after a couple decades in Enterprise IT i have waaaaaay higher standards for anybody who uses the term "Engibeer" in their job title. Ive worked with electrical engineers, chemical engineers, software engineers, etc.

Engibeer?  Is that along the lines of being a Naviguesser?

[mr moose]

On 2/2/2022 at 1:38 PM, wseaton said:

Network Engineer

 

I've almost got into fistfight over this one. Sorry, but after a couple decades in Enterprise IT i have waaaaaay higher standards for anybody who uses the term "Engibeer" in their job title. Ive worked with electrical engineers, chemical engineers, software engineers, etc. 

 

The typical "Network Engineer" I encounter just plugs routes and subnets into CLI interfaces and spends waaaay too much time creating superfluous VLANs while simultaneously ignoring anything involving layer 7 and legit security mitigation. They dont engineer squat except higher equipment costs because anything that moves a packet needs to be "managed'. 

 

Maybe we should call them "data interchange control specialist", we could call them dics for short.

[Sant_HH]

Using i3, i5, i7 as an indicator of performance. Like “Your i5(10600k) is faster than my i7(2700k)? That’s impossible!”

[IPD]

On 2/1/2022 at 9:38 PM, wseaton said:

Network Engineer

 

I've almost got into fistfight over this one. Sorry, but after a couple decades in Enterprise IT i have waaaaaay higher standards for anybody who uses the term "Engibeer" in their job title. Ive worked with electrical engineers, chemical engineers, software engineers, etc. 

 

The typical "Network Engineer" I encounter just plugs routes and subnets into CLI interfaces and spends waaaay too much time creating superfluous VLANs while simultaneously ignoring anything involving layer 7 and legit security mitigation. They dont engineer squat except higher equipment costs because anything that moves a packet needs to be "managed'. 

 

Custodial Engineer?

[IPD]

53 minutes ago, Sant_HH said:

Using i3, i5, i7 as an indicator of performance. Like “Your i5(10600k) is faster than my i7(2700k)? That’s impossible!”

Those same people do the same thing with BMW 3/5/7 series.

[Bombastinator]

4 hours ago, IPD said:

Custodial Engineer?

“Sandwich artist”  title inflation is everywhere.

[Bombastinator]

5 hours ago, Sant_HH said:

Using i3, i5, i7 as an indicator of performance. Like “Your i5(10600k) is faster than my i7(2700k)? That’s impossible!”

It’s half an indicator.  A bit like v8, 6, and 4 cylinder. Flathead v8s of the 30’s made less horsepower than some 4 cylinders in the 2000’s 

[sub68]

5 hours ago, Sant_HH said:

Using i3, i5, i7 as an indicator of performance. Like “Your i5(10600k) is faster than my i7(2700k)? That’s impossible!”

Intels naming sceme is actually pretty easy to desipher (the i series)

But generations is what you should focus on.

(there are T variants but they are some what stupid)

5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

It’s half an indicator.  A bit like v8, 6, and 4 cylinder. Flathead v8s of the 30’s made less horsepower than some 4 cylinders in the 2000’s 

or

Yep 10 years of innovation JK its just werid to me.

[Bombastinator]

3 hours ago, sub68 said:

Intels naming sceme is actually pretty easy to desipher (the i series)

But generations is what you should focus on.

(there are T variants but they are some what stupid)

or

Yep 10 years of innovation JK its just werid to me.

The trick behind the word “innovation” is how you use it.  There are two meanings that appear here.  The one everyone thinks it means and the one they are using.  Scientific or technical innovation is what people generally think, but financial innovation basically just means make more money. They dumped technical innovation for financial “innovation”. The second meaning is a lot like “sanitary engineer” or “sandwich artist”.  A term used to hide mundanity.

[sub68]

4 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

The trick behind the word “innovation” is how you use it.  There are two meanings that appear here.  The one everyone thinks it means and the one they are using.  Scientific or technical innovation is what people generally think, but financial innovation basically just means make more money. They dumped technical innovation for financial “innovation”. The second meaning is a lot like “sanitary engineer” or “sandwich artist”.  A term used to hide mundanity.

huh never thought of this

[The_russian]

On 2/1/2022 at 6:38 PM, wseaton said:

Network Engineer

 

I've almost got into fistfight over this one. Sorry, but after a couple decades in Enterprise IT i have waaaaaay higher standards for anybody who uses the term "Engibeer" in their job title. Ive worked with electrical engineers, chemical engineers, software engineers, etc. 

 

The typical "Network Engineer" I encounter just plugs routes and subnets into CLI interfaces and spends waaaay too much time creating superfluous VLANs while simultaneously ignoring anything involving layer 7 and legit security mitigation. They dont engineer squat except higher equipment costs because anything that moves a packet needs to be "managed'. 

 

Using “engineer” is pretty common in IT fields to separate the slightly higher up people from the technicians. I’m a SOC engineer and agree the “engineer” title is misused. Serious question though, what would you call a networking engineer instead? Just a tier 4 or tier 5 networking technician? What title would you prefer instead of “engineer”?

[Jarsky]

Not a tech term, but one from the industry that really gets me is service desks logging tickets and always saying "Do the needful". 

Whenever I see this, I straight away assume they have no idea what theyre talking about to be able to put into words what their request is. 

[IPD]

1 minute ago, Jarsky said:

Not a tech term, but one from the industry that really gets me is service desks logging tickets and always saying "Do the needful". 

Whenever I see this, I straight away assume they have no idea what theyre talking about to be able to put into words what their request is. 

WTF does "do the needful" even mean?

[dalekphalm]

36 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

Not a tech term, but one from the industry that really gets me is service desks logging tickets and always saying "Do the needful". 

Whenever I see this, I straight away assume they have no idea what theyre talking about to be able to put into words what their request is. 

This is a cultural thing - people from the South of Asia (India, Pakistan, etc) will often use that phrase. It's just one of the oddities of using English as a second language. I worked with some folks from India and Pakistan at Staples while working in the computer repair department, and they used that phrase all the time.

[kingfurykiller]

automagically

[HanZie82]

7 hours ago, kingfurykiller said:

automagically

Oh no that one is a gem.
Dont wanna explain to someone that wont understand anyway.
Thats what i say.

Its almost an "just fucking google it" in disguise.

[BionicSeaSerpent]

this one is Highly understandable i believe, Hackintosh. its installing an Operating system onto a computer there is literally no hacking in it. another one is "SDD Hard Drive" just WHY? Its a bloody SSD not a Hard drive. 

[IPD]

8 hours ago, kingfurykiller said:

automagically

along the lines of "acooterment" instead of saying "accoutrements". 

[kingfurykiller]

2 hours ago, HanZie82 said:

Oh no that one is a gem.
Dont wanna explain to someone that wont understand anyway.
Thats what i say.

Its almost an "just fucking google it" in disguise.

Maybe because I always wish people to know at least the basics of how something works, but very little of what we do is magic

[Sir Asvald]

On 2/2/2022 at 2:38 AM, wseaton said:

Network Engineer

 

I've almost got into fistfight over this one. Sorry, but after a couple decades in Enterprise IT i have waaaaaay higher standards for anybody who uses the term "Engibeer" in their job title. Ive worked with electrical engineers, chemical engineers, software engineers, etc. 

 

The typical "Network Engineer" I encounter just plugs routes and subnets into CLI interfaces and spends waaaay too much time creating superfluous VLANs while simultaneously ignoring anything involving layer 7 and legit security mitigation. They dont engineer squat except higher equipment costs because anything that moves a packet needs to be "managed'. 

 

You're generalising, you do realise that being a "network engineer" is more than just CLI and creating vlans, right? In the field networking you are most likely need to build and design a network from the scratch, get of  subnets/IPs you're going to use the and more. I could say the same about a software engineer, all they do is "just" type some code on screen..

 

You've probably worked with someone who doesn't know what they're doing or they're just being lazy...

 

[Bitter]

Synergy/Synergize.

[Tan3l6]

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