Posted December 14, 2020 Collecting data for the PCMR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 In this forum you will only get yes. If you're comfortable building your own PC, it's always the better choice. Even if it's only for saving money. If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Yea I've built my own PC. I would recommend a PC to people who need it, but wouldn't necessarily recommend building a PC to anyone who needs a PC. The difference in price between building a PC vs. buying a pre-built (whether it is from a large brand like HP, local shop, whatever) is often minimal. Except you save a lot of time in not having to build it, save a lot of hassle in not having to troubleshoot it and have some warranty service too. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Torotoplayer said: Collecting data for the PCMR. Lose that term. "Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself. Onyx : AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU - Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L - Samsung 27" 1080p Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p Steam Deck 512GB OLED OnePlus: OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green Other Tech: - 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified. - Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen - MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti - Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Torotoplayer said: Collecting data for the PCMR. We are the PCMR Reminder I'm just speaking from experience so what I say may not work 100% Please try searching up the answer before you post here but I am always glad to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Yup, I've built 2 PCs till now. My own first build after 2-3 years of pocket money savings and learning: My specs: Ryzen 3 2200G OC @ 4.0GHz, iGPU @ 1500MHz Gigabyte Aorus B450M Corsair CX450 Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 3000MHz Deepcool Gammax GTE V2 1TB WD Blue And built my friend's rig just a month ago, advised him parts and took help from this forum: Ryzen 3 3500X Gigabyte GTX1660 Super OC 8GB Asrock B450M Steel legend Hyper X Fury 2x8GB 3200MHz Deepcool Gammax GTE V2 Gigabyte 550W Bronze 80+ 2TB Seagate Barracuda 240GB Crucial BX500 I'm deeply grateful to the LTT channel and this wonderful forum that sparked this interest in me about computer hardware and softwares. Now I try to help and learn to the best of my abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 My parents are too strict to let me build one, lol. geometry is hard b550 > x570 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Guy at work this morning "Hey man this iBuyPower PC looks amazing, think I should get it?" Me "No, you are overspending by $500, if you buy the components Ill slap it together for free and get it working" Guy at work this morning "Id rather have the warranty" Me "Each component comes with a warranty should it fail, but to each their own!" The older Ive gotten, the more I pay people less and learn the DIY methods myself in all aspects. Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com) Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594? Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Downkey said: My parents are too strict to let me build one, lol. Was same here too . But I saved almost 70% of the total cost, gave them my master plan and pestered them almost 2-3 months for them to agree. Well, they keep taunting me about how my marks dipped a bit due to this, but I really had a wonderful time building and configuring it to my satisfaction all by myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Kind of a dumb question to ask on a tech forum. Everyone here will say that you should build one, and most people here probably have. Quote me to see my reply! SPECS: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X Motherboard: MSI B450-A Pro Max RAM: 32GB I forget GPU: MSI Vega 56 Storage: 256GB NVMe boot, 512GB Samsung 850 Pro, 1TB WD Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue HDD PSU: Inwin P85 850w Case: Fractal Design Define C Cooling: Stock for CPU, be quiet! case fans, Morpheus Vega w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 2 for GPU Monitor: 3x Thinkvision P24Q on a Steelcase Eyesite triple monitor stand Mouse: Logitech MX Master 3 Keyboard: Focus FK-9000 (heavily modded) Mousepad: Aliexpress cat special Headphones: Sennheiser HD598SE and Sony Linkbuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 I build my own but I stopped building for others long ago. One of the reasons is because I became the warranty. If I refused to be the warranty all I got was negative press. Also people have stopped talking to me because I recommended certain specs to do the job. They went with less and blamed me when the computer could not do the job. Refusing to build for not following my advice was almost as bad. For a long time I built 3D capable computers for companies as well but that got old to so I started using the IT company they used to build the PC so any issue that came up the IT company dealt with it. For this I got really nice presents on holidays from them. I still do charity builds but I get no complaints on them. RIG#1 CPU: AMD, R 7 5800x3D| Motherboard: X570 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 2TB | Monitor: ASUS ROG Swift PG42UQ RIG#2 CPU: Intel i9 11900k | Motherboard: Z590 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3600 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1300 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO | Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 | SSD#1: SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX300 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k C1 OLED TV RIG#3 CPU: Intel i9 10900kf | Motherboard: Z490 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 4000 | GPU: MSI Gaming X Trio 3090 | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Crucial P1 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV RIG#4 CPU: Intel i9 13900k | Motherboard: AORUS Z790 Master | RAM: Corsair Dominator RGB 32GB DDR5 6200 | GPU: Zotac Amp Extreme 4090 | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Streacom BC1.1S | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 I wouldn't recommend building a PC to people I know because I don't want to be unpaid tech support on my time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, Downkey said: My parents are too strict to let me build one, lol. Sucks man, my parents were apprehensive like that when I was in high school and built my first system, but I earned the money myself and knew I was saving a lot of money to get a much better system so I did it anyways. But I was 17, if I did that when I was say 14 I probably would have gotten in trouble for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said: Kind of a dumb question to ask on a tech forum. Everyone here will say that you should build one, and most people here probably have. And his data will be biased towards building a computer... CPU Cooler Tier List || Motherboard VRMs Tier List || Motherboard Beep & POST Codes || Graphics Card Tier List || PSU Tier List Main System Specifications: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X || CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Air Cooler || RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 || Mobo: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 || SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Boot Drive/Some Games) || HDD: 2X Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB(Game Drive) || GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming RX 6900XT || PSU: EVGA P2 1600W || Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow || Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero SE RGB || Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB with GX Blue Clicky Switches || Mouse Pad: MAINGEAR ASSIST XL || Monitor: ASUS TUF Gaming VG34VQL1B 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Interested in building your own PC, then go right ahead, but I wouldn't recommended someone else to build it on their own, when they're not comfortable or don't have the time. They can go with pre builts, and choose what ever they think it's good for them. Intel Xeon E5 1650 v3 @ 3.5GHz 6C:12T / CM212 Evo / Asus X99 Deluxe / 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 3000 Trident-Z / Samsung 850 Pro 256GB / Intel 335 240GB / WD Red 2 & 3TB / Antec 850w / RTX 2070 / Win10 Pro x64 HP Envy X360 15: Intel Core i5 8250U @ 1.6GHz 4C:8T / 8GB DDR4 / Intel UHD620 + Nvidia GeForce MX150 4GB / Intel 120GB SSD / Win10 Pro x64 HP Envy x360 BP series Intel 8th gen AMD ThreadRipper 2! 5820K & 6800K 3-way SLI mobo support list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said: I was say 14 I am 14, but I don't think my age would matter, my dad doesn't like how I care about tech releases and actual products. idek why geometry is hard b550 > x570 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Sure I would recommend building a PC, but only if you're like... technically savy? Like I wouldn't recommend my parents build their home PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Well, I'm 57 and been building since the 286 era. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone not willing to care about details....my wife, or my children. Like anything in life, if you are willing to invest a little time into doing it right, you will reap rewards. If you just think you are going to dilettante it, well...you will get the expected results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 I'm surprised there isn't a "sometimes" answer for the second question. I would recommend building to some of my friends, but not all. elephants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 yeah, the returns for building (savings and improved performance) are really for a certain set of users. Low end browser systems simply cannot be built any cheaper, or any better than the majors...They have scale on their side and lower operating costs (discounts on oem software etc. etc.) It is the high end systems that benefit most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 Yep, I'm on my third major build update at this point. Would I recommend someone to build their own? I dunno, I guess it'd genuinely depend on the context. I voted no as I'm in the "maybe" field there. Check out my guide on how to scan cover art here! Local asshole and 6th generation console enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Torotoplayer said: Collecting data for the PCMR. These forums are such a skewed audience, the data you're collecting is basically just a circle jerk. For instance, I would not recommend building a PC for anyone who just needs a web browsing machine or a machine for school. Building a PC on your own is not always guaranteed to be cheaper, PCMR needs to get that through their thick skulls. Intel® Core™ i7-12700 | GIGABYTE B660 AORUS MASTER DDR4 | Gigabyte Radeon™ RX 6650 XT Gaming OC | 32GB Corsair Vengeance® RGB Pro SL DDR4 | Samsung 990 Pro 1TB | WD Green 1.5TB | Windows 11 Pro | NZXT H510 Flow White Sony MDR-V250 | GNT-500 | Logitech G610 Orion Brown | Logitech G402 | Samsung C27JG5 | ASUS ProArt PA238QR iPhone 12 Mini (iOS 17.2.1) | iPhone XR (iOS 17.2.1) | iPad Mini (iOS 9.3.5) | KZ AZ09 Pro x KZ ZSN Pro X | Sennheiser HD450bt Intel® Core™ i7-1265U | Kioxia KBG50ZNV512G | 16GB DDR4 | Windows 11 Enterprise | HP EliteBook 650 G9 Intel® Core™ i5-8520U | WD Blue M.2 250GB | 1TB Seagate FireCuda | 16GB DDR4 | Windows 11 Home | ASUS Vivobook 15 Intel® Core™ i7-3520M | GT 630M | 16 GB Corsair Vengeance® DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | macOS Catalina | Lenovo IdeaPad P580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2020 No, But I have watched and been in the tech and hardware side for a long time now, so I will probably do it very fast once you give me parts I have taken apart hundred of computers tho and just played with random old hardware, replaced my cooler, troubleshot some pcs and such. The reason I didn't build my own pc from 0 to 100 ever is that I had a few old pcs my dad gave me through out the years and the last pc when I was 10, then half a year ago I started to get annoyed by my first gen pc and wanted to build a new one but didn't have money for it, so I bought my current pc from someone else used.. tho a sick deal. Great gaming chair + 144hz 1080p monitor + k65 lux reds switches rgb + g305 + PC with 1660ti + i5-9400f + 16gigs ram + b365-f rog strix all for just 550$ almost brand new so I'm happy. Planning to get a new sick PC once ddr5 is more common than 4 for a new build. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 15, 2020 I'm not clear if the second question means ME building the PC, a shop building the PC or the end-user building the PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Downkey said: My parents are too strict to let me build one, lol. same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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