[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, Juular said:

@jonnyGURUAlso, could you guys please add some discerning suffix or smth, at least on the label to these all new refreshes ? Now when Corsair seems to use all the same design for new refreshes it's getting hard to distinguish them, there were differences in label color before. Something like Corsair CX-M v3 or smth, or just literally a year besides model (on the label). Yes, i know there's SKU code (or whatever you guys call it), like CP-9020*, but we can't just write a bunch of codes for the entire wattage range here...

Use the CP number.

[Juular]

Just now, jonnyGURU said:

Use the CP number.

Not an easy fix, i mean, in these cases it is, but what if you guys decide to add another wattage to the series ? These codes are already long enough. I guess i'd just write [triangular grille] as a discerning feature for now, if you guys decide to make an another refresh of it, keeping the grille design i guess we'll work out something else then.

[boghubodaghi]

7 hours ago, seon123 said:

It is listed as the GX. It uses a crappy fan, lacks multi rail OCP, and is a glorified Focus. 

That is complete nonsense. Focus is not a design that goes above 1000W.

35 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

Use the CP number.

Using the year the PSUs are released are much easier rather than having to memorize the CP number. You do realize that these numbers are not memorize-able, right? I doubt you even memorize them .

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

1 hour ago, Juular said:

Yes, i know there's SKU code (or whatever you guys call it), like CP-9020*, but we can't just write a bunch of codes for the entire wattage range here...

 

1 hour ago, jonnyGURU said:

Use the CP number.

Sometimes I can't tell whether or not you are trolling. It's beguiling.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

 

Sometimes I can't tell whether or not you are trolling. It's beguiling.

I'm usually trolling.  Expect me to be trolling.

[Quartz11]

A new review for MSI MPG A850GF 850W power supply:

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/07/06/msi-mpg-a850gf-850w-power-supply-review/

[IIIIIIIIII]

Super Flower Legion GX Brief Review (Quasarzone)

Aggressive looking fan RPM

 

 

The selling price in the area where I live is not attractive. Because with a little extra, it's the same price as the Leadex III.

[Juular]

1 hour ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

Super Flower Legion GX Brief Review

Hmm, so it is a renewed Golden Green / King platform after all.

[doubleflower]

On 7/13/2021 at 12:05 AM, Juular said:

Hmm, so it is a renewed Golden Green / King platform after all.

So based on that review, looks like a Tier A LP unit, because of incomplete reviews?  But voltage and ripple regulations looks good though

[doubleflower]

On 7/12/2021 at 10:11 PM, IIIIIIIIII said:

Super Flower Legion GX Brief Review (Quasarzone)

Aggressive looking fan RPM

 

 

The selling price in the area where I live is not attractive. Because with a little extra, it's the same price as the Leadex III.

@genexis_x This review might be useful for you 

[Juular]

2 hours ago, doubleflower said:

So based on that review, looks like a Tier A LP unit, because of incomplete reviews?  But voltage and ripple regulations looks good though

Going by current methodology, yes. But i'm not sure if i want it in tier A, i'm thinking of requiring detailed reviews (with transient response and protection tests on the unit or platform) for tier A including LP, but need to revise what we have there and what would be moved down in that case first.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

I have a suggestion for the next revision.

 

As it is now, the "Low Priority" sections are used for two distinct groups: units with minor problems, and units with little available information. I think it would be helpful to split this section into two for clarity.

[Juular]

8 hours ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

As it is now, the "Low Priority" sections are used for two distinct groups: units with minor problems, and units with little available information. I think it would be helpful to split this section into two for clarity.

I don't see the point, whether that or this - these units aren't recommended of normal priority units. It would just add more complexity to already pretty complex tier list. Also, as i've mentioned above, i plan to get rid or reduce the amount of units with not enough information on in tier A.

[doubleflower]

@Juular @LukeSavenije @jonnyGURU

Looks like Cybenetics report for the EVGA G6 has been released:

 

http://members.cybenetics.report:5050/d/cybenetics_2aU.pdf

 

Seasonic OEM, but what's with the crossload result?  (1000mV on 12V with CL2) 

[Juular]

19 minutes ago, doubleflower said:

but what's with the crossload result?  (1000mV on 12V with CL2) 

I suspect it's an error.

[IIIIIIIIII]

1 hour ago, doubleflower said:

@Juular @LukeSavenije @jonnyGURU

Looks like Cybenetics report for the EVGA G6 has been released:

 

http://members.cybenetics.report:5050/d/cybenetics_2aU.pdf

 

Seasonic OEM, but what's with the crossload result?  (1000mV on 12V with CL2) 

They started using MCU as fan controllers. Let's see if the fan related issues are resolved

 

[Juular]

10 minutes ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

They started using MCU as fan controllers. Let's see if the fan related issues are resolved

Now if only Seasonic themselves started doing that.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

They started using MCU as fan controllers. Let's see if the fan related issues are resolved

 

That MCU isn't for the fan controller.  

[IIIIIIIIII]

1 hour ago, jonnyGURU said:

That MCU isn't for the fan controller.  

Only for OCP? The report seems to be wrong. Currently taken down.

[Juular]

@jonnyGURUSo i've bought that 50$ EVGA 650GT.

 

 

It differs from what we see in the reviews of Cougar GX-F 750W (aside for usual different-wattage changes), -12V circuit is moved to the modular board and the transformer doesn't have bus bars, i also don't know if secondary rectification is done by SBRs or FETs as they're behind a screw-on heatsink, kinda look too thin for FETs, ain't they ? So that raises the question, is it really TPK ? Or something a little bit custom ? What wattage version did you test ? What concerns me with this one is a 4A boost diode, did your sample pass your 100V burn-in tests ?

 

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[Guest]

54 minutes ago, Juular said:

@jonnyGURUSo i've bought that 50$ EVGA 650GT.

 

 

It differs from what we see in the reviews of Cougar GX-F 750W (aside for usual different-wattage changes), -12V circuit is moved to the modular board and the transformer doesn't have bus bars, i also don't know if secondary rectification is done by SBRs or FETs as they're behind a screw-on heatsink, kinda look too thin for FETs, ain't they ? So that raises the question, is it really TPK ? Or something a little bit custom ? What wattage version did you test ? What concerns me with this one is a 4A boost diode, did your sample pass your 100V burn-in tests ?

 

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Oooh....  That is COMPLETELY different.  Much cheaper BOM there.

 

Here's what I have for the HEC 650W:

 

COMPONENT	Location	QTY	Reference Designator	MANUFACTURER	VOLTAGE (V)	CURRENT (A)	POWER (W)
AC ON/OFF Switch	Bottom Case	1	PS8A-4  UL 10A/125V	Bei Er Jia (貝爾佳)	250	10
Attachment Plugs	Bottom Case	1	ST-A01-003K+M12VDE 10A/250V UL 15A/250V	Bei Er Jia (貝爾佳)	250	10
Input Fuse	F1	1	TSC T12AH250V 12A/250V	Walter	250	12
Surge Suppression	Z1	1	TVR10471KSC3ILCY	THINKINN	470
X Capacitor Discharge IC	UX1	1	CAP200DG-TL	PI	1000
X Capacitor (Inlet board)	CX0,CX1	2	X2 0.47uF / 275V	Winday (威迪)	275
X Capacitor (Main board)	CX2	1	X2 0.68uF / 275V	Winday (威迪)	275
AC Bridge Rectifier	BD1	1	GBU15K-BP 800V/15A	MCC	800	15
Inrush Thermistor	TH1	1	SCK152R58MSY 2.5Ω/8A	THINKINN		8	2.5
Inrush Bypass Diode	D001	1	GS8M 8A/1000V	PINGWEI	1000	8
Relay	REY1	1	HF32FV-G-012-HTF 10A/250V RoHS	Hongfa	250	10
Bulk Capacitor	C002	1	SLG397M400S1G5R45K 390uF±20% 400V	TEAPO	400
PFC Controller IC	IC201	1	CM6500UNXISTR	CHAMPION
PFC Magnetic Core		1	Sendust 270060-18 AL=120.5nH±8%	Jiu Xin (玖鑫)
PFC Magnetic Bobbin		1	Bobbin PFC 330 / 270 size	裕龍鑫
HV Sense Signal Disconnect	IC202	1	CM03AXIS	CHAMPION
PFC Mosfet	Q1,Q2	2	IPA60R180P7S 18A/650V/Rds(ON):0.18Ω PG-TO220	INFINEON	650	18
PFC Rectifier	D1	1	IDH06G65C6 6A/650V VF:1.25V	INFINEON	600	6
PFC Capacitor	C001	1	ECWF2W105JAC 1uF/450V±5%	Panasonic	450
PWM Controller IC	IC100	1	CM6901T6XISTR SOP-16	CHAMPION
PWM Magnetic Core		1	EE4220 SSP-4 AL=5600±25% EE42/42/20	SunShine(尚朋)
PWM Magnetic Bobbin		1	EE4212 13P(9+4)  P=4±0 .5	裕龍鑫
PWM Mosfet	Q3,Q4	2	IPA60R180P7S 18A/650V/Rds(ON):0.18Ω PG-TO220	INFINEON	650	18
PWM Resonant Inductor	L002	1	ATQ2714-500J-W1 50uH±5%	Wei Tuo
PWM Resonant Capacitor	C005,C006	2	SMMCI823J0630DK1504 823J±5% 630V	Winday	630
SR Controller IC)	IC100	1	CM6901T6XISTR SOP-16	CHAMPION
Output Rectifier	Q400,Q401,Q402,Q403	4	NTMFS5C430NLT1G 200A/40V/Rds(ON):1.4mΩ SO-8FL	On-semi	40	200
+12Vdc Output Capacitor	C404	1	SC 2200uF±20% /16V 105℃	TEAPO	16
	C405,C406	2	SC 3300uF±20%/ 16V 105℃	TEAPO	16
	C400,C401,C402,C403	4	PFG108M016S1ANG15A 1000uF±20% 16V 105℃	TEAPO	16
+5Vdc Controller IC	U535	1	APW7073-KE-TRG	ANPEC
+5Vdc Mosfet	Q536,Q537	2	PDD3906 80A/30V	Potens	30	80
+5Vdc Mosfet	Q538,Q539	2	PDD3906 80A/30V	Potens	30	80
+5Vdc Output Rectifier			N/A
+5Vdc Output Capacitor	C508,C509,C510	3	PFG477M016S1ANG08A 470uF±20% 16V 105℃	TEAPO	16
	C527	1	SC 2200uF±20% /10V 105℃	TEAPO	10
+3.3Vdc Controller IC	U535	1	APW7073-KE-TRG	ANPEC
+3.3Vdc Mosfet	Q536,Q537	2	PDD3906 80A/30V	Potens	30	80
+3.3Vdc Mosfet	Q538,Q539	2	PDD3906 80A/30V	Potens	30	80
+3.3Vdc Output Rectifier			N/A
+3.3Vdc Output Capacitor	C508,C509,C510	3	PFG477M016S1ANG08A 470uF±20% 16V 105℃	TEAPO	16
	C327	1	SC 2200uF±20% /10V 105℃	TEAPO	10
-12Vdc Controller IC	ICN01	1	SY8201ABC (Synchronous Step Down Regulator)	Silergy
-12Vdc Output Rectifier			N/A
-12Vdc Output Capacitor	CN02,CN04,CN05,CN06	4	1206 106K±10% 25V	samsung	25
5vsb Controller IC	ICB1	1	PWM IC TNY290PG	PI	725
5vsb Magnetic Core		1	EE-22 SSP-4	SunShine(尚朋)
5vsb Magnetic Bobbin		1	EE22 10P Pin7,9,10NO P=4.3±0.2 VP-2222	迪仕達
5vsb Mosfet	ICB1	1	PWM IC TNY290PG	PI	725
5vsb Rectifier	D550	1	PS1060L 60V/10A	PINGWEI	60	10
5vsb Output Capacitor	CB02,CB05	2	EKZE160ELL222MJ251 2200uF±20%/16V 105℃	CHEMICON	16
5vsb Output Capacitor			N/A
Fan Controller IC	UF01	1	APW9010KI-TRG	ANPEC
Fan	Top Case	1	HA1225H12F-Z 12V/0.58A 2200RPM L=130 3.5V start	HH	12	0.58
Protection IC (UVP, OVP, OCP)	U401	1	WT7527RT-NG16AWT-T1	Weltrend

[Juular]

@jonnyGURUSo main differences seem to be 4A boost diode instead of 6A, cheaper PFC and primary side FETs (full-package), and also probably SBRs at secondary rectification stage instead of FETs. But in return muh Japanese capacitors. So all in all this isn't really TPK after all.

Also, can you identify these DC-DC SBRs ? (EMF3A13\15)

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, Juular said:

Also, can you identify these DC-DC SBRs ? (EMF3A13\15)

Never heard of them.

 

[Sakee__]

1 hour ago, Juular said:

Also, can you identify these DC-DC SBRs ? (EMF3A13\15)

Due to the part number, I would guess these are Excelliance MOSFETs (since their SBRs part numbers start with EMS).

[monzon1992]

3 hours ago, Juular said:

@jonnyGURUSo i've bought that 50$ EVGA 650GT.

 

 

It differs from what we see in the reviews of Cougar GX-F 750W (aside for usual different-wattage changes), -12V circuit is moved to the modular board and the transformer doesn't have bus bars, i also don't know if secondary rectification is done by SBRs or FETs as they're behind a screw-on heatsink, kinda look too thin for FETs, ain't they ? So that raises the question, is it really TPK ? Or something a little bit custom ? What wattage version did you test ? What concerns me with this one is a 4A boost diode, did your sample pass your 100V burn-in tests ?

 

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I just bought that psu, was it a good choice? or return it?