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I was assessing monitor prices the other day and found found that 144hz monitors have become more affordable-ish to the extent that they aren't only for specialised purposes. However, looking at my own game library, I wondered if getting one would ever be worth it because I don't seem to have that many games that I think will run at that refresh rate even if I had the GPU horsepower. And not owning / playing many recent games, I thought that if old games don't run at 144hz and if most new games don't either, what are the games that do? So I'll ask everyone here : are games that aren't locked to 60 very few and far between or do I just happen to not own any? It seems to me like only competitive games like CS:GO and Overwatch go above 100fps and high refresh rates in general seem to be under-utilised. Is there any list of games that show their locked/max framerates or one which shows games that would benefit from having a high refresh rate monitor? I play a lot of RTSs(old ones,though) and most of them seem to be locked at 30/60 (I don't know about SC2 though).

 

TLDR: List of games that would benefit from having a high ref rate monitor?

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4 minutes ago, Luxzio22 said:

 

It is only going to be useful for competitive games and other fast action games yes.

 

Probably just pick up a 4k 60hz display for the sharpest visuals, any with free-sync should be fine.

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6 minutes ago, Luxzio22 said:

I was assessing monitor prices the other day and found found that 144hz monitors have become more affordable-ish to the extent that they aren't only for specialised purposes. However, looking at my own game library, I wondered if getting one would ever be worth it because I don't seem to have that many games that I think will run at that refresh rate even if I had the GPU horsepower. And not owning / playing many recent games, I thought that if old games don't run at 144hz and if most new games don't either, what are the games that do? So I'll ask everyone here : are games that aren't locked to 60 very few and far between or do I just happen to not own any? It seems to me like only competitive games like CS:GO and Overwatch go above 100fps and high refresh rates in general seem to be under-utilised. Is there any list of games that show their locked/max framerates or one which shows games that would benefit from having a high refresh rate monitor? I play a lot of RTSs(old ones,though) and most of them seem to be locked at 30/60 (I don't know about SC2 though).

 

TLDR: List of games that would benefit from having a high ref rate monitor?

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Is there any list of games that aren't locked to lower framerates? I'm not in the market right now but I was curious. 

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6 minutes ago, Luxzio22 said:

Is there any list of games that aren't locked to lower framerates? I'm not in the market right now but I was curious. 

most pc games that i have played have an adjustable frame rate

and alot of games can be run at higher frames depending on the computers specs

personally i would rather turn games down to medium or high and get the higher refresh rates (arma 3, men of war, space engineers etc. unless i really want to sit there and go damn that game looks good) 

 

just because the monitor supports 144 frames a second does not mean that it wont be better than a 60hz monitor recieving 100 frames as the 144hz one will be able to push those 100 fps quite nicely

 

out of all the games i play if any are locked to a certain frame output usually they give the option of 60 and 120 or its as simple as changing the fps on the ingame command console or a game file

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7 minutes ago, Luxzio22 said:

Is there any list of games that aren't locked to lower framerates? I'm not in the market right now but I was curious. 

if i understand correctly...is all except the Metro Exodus, or the assasins creed series. And propably those that have raytracing capabilities to enable.(for nvidia cards).

 

World of tanks though has an option to use FPS at its settings. i have put it to 144 in mine (Asus p258q adaptive sync monitor)

 

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1 minute ago, ckinfos said:

if i understand correctly...is all except the Metro Exodus, or the assasins creed series. And propably those that have raytracing capabilities to enable.(for nvidia cards)

 

i didnt notice a locked fps when playing control with rtx enabled (was back close to release so i may be wrong) but most rtx enabled games i dont think would hit 144hz with it enabled unless you are running 2080ti's 

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Just now, WickedStarfish said:

i didnt notice a locked fps when playing control with rtx enabled (was back close to release so i may be wrong) but most rtx enabled games i dont think would hit 144hz with it enabled unless you are running 2080ti's 

thats why i said propably. ( i have amd gpu currently). As of WoT it has option to stick in FPS at settings

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8 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

List of games that would benefit from having a high ref rate monitor?

You can unlock fps in the majority of games that exist on PC in their configuration files. So this list you most likely won't find would show hundreds upon hundreds of games.

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Thanks for the informative replies! 

 

I don't turn on V-sync in any game unless its needed, which has not been many. 

 

I play a lot of older games and they don't have many options for framerate, and even if they did, I doubt I'd get higher than 60fps with my RX550. Splinter Cell Chaos theory for example is locked to 100fps last time I checked and AoE2HD is locked to 60. None of the Total War games have higher than 60fps option or any option at all. 

 

From the replies here though, I think that getting a higher refresh rate monitor would generally be worth it even if I wasn't playing only / mostly competitive games? Is that right?

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There are steam groups showing 30fps locked titles in a list.

Surely there are lists for nonCapped games.

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23 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

I play a lot of older games and they don't have many options for framerate

You have to go into the config files and do some tiny tweaks.

23 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

and even if they did

Most do.

23 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

I doubt I'd get higher than 60fps with my RX550

Depends on the game, your CPU and your RAM. Older or less demanding games you can get above 60, easy. This is one of the best reasons to own a 144 fps monitor. I really enjoy playing old console games above 100 fps. It basically brings them back from the dead.

23 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

Splinter Cell Chaos theory for example is locked to 100fps last time I checked

This is one of the few games that can be tough to unlock that 100 fps lock. Fortunately, you don't exactly need more than 100 fps in that particular game.

23 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

AoE2HD is locked to 60

You can definitely unlock that 60 fps lock in AoE2HD.

23 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

None of the Total War games have higher than 60fps option or any option at all.

When games have no options to unlock fps in the game itself, you have to do a little bit of research for if it's possible to unlock the fps in that particular game.

23 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

I think that getting a higher refresh rate monitor would generally be worth it even if I wasn't playing only / mostly competitive games? Is that right?

That's correct if you play a lot of older/less demanding games. If you haven't done so yet, put League of Legends on your PC asap, get you a 144 fps monitor and have yourself a happy new year in September.

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4 hours ago, Intransigent said:

You have to go into the config files and do some tiny tweaks.

Most do.

Depends on the game, your CPU and your RAM. Older or less demanding games you can get above 60, easy. This is one of the best reasons to own a 144 fps monitor. I really enjoy playing old console games above 100 fps. It basically brings them back from the dead.

This is one of the few games that can be tough to unlock that 100 fps lock. Fortunately, you don't exactly need more than 100 fps in that particular game.

You can definitely unlock that 60 fps lock in AoE2HD.

When games have no options to unlock fps in the game itself, you have to do a little bit of research for if it's possible to unlock the fps in that particular game.

That's correct if you play a lot of older/less demanding games. If you haven't done so yet, put League of Legends on your PC asap, get you a 144 fps monitor and have yourself a happy new year in September.

I see. I've been kinda ignorant of anything beyond 60 and didn't really feel the need or the curiosity to dig deeper before. Its only recently that I even gave a thought to the technical aspects of monitors and see that its its own rabbit hole. I'll certainly have more info about monitors the next time I buy one, so thanks to everyone in the thread. But LoL? Not gonna happen :D

 

I'd also like to know everyone's opinion on 75hz monitors. I've seen them around and they are 60hz monitors that are OC'd or get OC'd to 75hz when using Freesync. Are they good? Worth the money (in my market, they're between 5ms response time generic 1080p IPS monitors and the full features low lag, 144hz ones)?

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6 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

But LoL? Not gonna happen :D

Why? Ever played it? I overlooked it completely for a decade. Picked it up in 2019 and became instantly addicted. Had no idea of what it was all about for so long. Always thought it was some kids game or something. Boy was I wrong. It involves some of the most strategic and smartest minds to be able to compete with the best of the best. What you can do in the game is some of the most variety of moves I've ever encountered in a video game. 150+ characters with their own unique moves.

6 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

I'd also like to know everyone's opinion on 75hz monitors. Are they good? Worth the money

They're worth the money if you plan to play more high demanding games and pick up the wonderful art of mastering graphic settings. 75 fps is just below the threshold of when fps gives you that roller coaster feeling inside, however, 75 fps does present a better experience than that of 60 fps. It's when you hit around 85-125 that you get that roller coaster feeling.

6 hours ago, Luxzio22 said:

5ms response time generic 1080p IPS monitors

Never go higher than 6 ms. A 5 ms 1080p IPS monitor is an excellent monitor. Luckily I snagged a Dell one(which is now my secondary monitor) at exactly $100 before it sky rocketed in price. Sure 1 ms is the best but 4-6 ms is perfectly fine. Just don't worry about having G-Sync of FreeSync as you can lock your fps to whatever you wish using either in-game options or MSI Afterburner.

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On 9/25/2019 at 1:42 AM, Luxzio22 said:

Is there any list of games that aren't locked to lower framerates? I'm not in the market right now but I was curious. 

almost every game is adjustable, play minecraft at 144 fps.

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I bought a 144hz 1440p G-sync monitor and found that none of the games I played benefited from it. 

 

I had it hooked up to my RTX 2080 ti so getting over 144fps in some titles was not the problem. It was usually game physics that caused me to drop the frame rate.

For example, the Metro games have issues going over 120fps. Getting through some tight spaces is impossible at 144fps. 

My Bethesda games all had issues going past 60fps.

 

In the end I went back to my 60hz 4k monitor. I gave the 144hz monitor to my Son. He plays online competitive games so he loves it. He also uses 2 GTX 1080 tis so He can do 144+fps on SLI titles.  

 

On 9/28/2019 at 5:38 AM, Luxzio22 said:

I'd also like to know everyone's opinion on 75hz monitors. I've seen them around and they are 60hz monitors that are OC'd or get OC'd to 75hz when using Freesync. Are they good? Worth the money (in my market, they're between 5ms response time generic 1080p IPS monitors and the full features low lag, 144hz ones)?

I bought a 75hz 3840 X 1600 38" LG monitor. I see or feel no difference between 60 and 75hz. I use 60hz in HDR games like ACO. 

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Games aren't usually locked to 60fps.

If you always see 60fps in a game it's usally only becasue you've got a 60Hz monitor and have Vsync on, so the game limits itself to what it can send out.

If you connected a 144Hz monitor that limit would now be 144Hz so the game would let itself go up to that.

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3 hours ago, jones177 said:

I bought a 144hz 1440p G-sync monitor and found that none of the games I played benefited from it.

Speechless. Your experience is the complete opposite of mine. I can't go back to 60 fps to save my life. Did you play any competitive games? The benefit is night and day.

3 hours ago, jones177 said:

My Bethesda games all had issues going past 60fps.

Never know why this happens to people. Bethesda games play flawlessly for me above and beyond 100 fps. Skyrim Special Edition included. I'd guess that you may have not read up on how to avoid/fix physics issues.

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5 hours ago, Intransigent said:

Speechless. Your experience is the complete opposite of mine. I can't go back to 60 fps to save my life. Did you play any competitive games? The benefit is night and day.

Not at all.

I competed for most of my life and I don't want to compete any more(old fart speak).

 

I prefer resolution over frame rate and my RTX 2080 tis are just adequate at 4k and 3840 X 1600.

My next monitor will be a 144hz version of my LG ultrawide and since it will put me back around $2000 I think I may value high refresh rate more than I let on.

5 hours ago, Intransigent said:

Never know why this happens to people. Bethesda games play flawlessly for me above and beyond 100 fps. Skyrim Special Edition included. I'd guess that you may have not read up on how to avoid/fix physics issues.

The differences are minor in Fallout 4. Over 60fps your character can't jump as high. You can go through the entire main quest several times without noticing it.  

In Fallout 4 VR since the refresh rate is over 60hz you have to use a mod to jump high as you can at 60. 

 

In Skyrim things go flying in interiors and in Skyrim SE enemies in dungeons start floating to the ceiling if there are a lot of them. 

 

 I am a bit of an extreme modder with 1000s of hours in these games so I run into many things that casual gamers don't.

 

 

 

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On 9/27/2019 at 12:52 AM, SkilledRebuilds said:

There are steam groups showing 30fps locked titles in a list.

Surely there are lists for nonCapped games.

Here you go:

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_that_support_120%2B_FPS

 

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4 hours ago, jones177 said:

In Skyrim things go flying in interiors and in Skyrim SE enemies in dungeons start floating to the ceiling if there are a lot of them. 

I've put in hundreds of hours into Skyrim and not once has this happened to me.

4 hours ago, jones177 said:

I run into many things that casual gamers don't.

Definitely not a casual gamer here. Some people just know how to do the research to fix game-breaking bugs/issues. To each their own I guess. Nothing wrong with 4K/60. I liked it a lot when I had it. I just prefer 1440p/90+ because lag doesn't come into play. And I'm using a 2015 i5 at 3.0 GHz.

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4 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

"So this list you most likely won't find would show hundreds upon hundreds of games."

 

Knew it. Nice find. Didn't think anyone would ever find it. I've been visiting that website for quite a while now. Never knew that list was even on there.

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9 hours ago, Intransigent said:

I've put in hundreds of hours into Skyrim and not once has this happened to me.

Hundreds.

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Tell me how to fix it.

 

9 hours ago, Intransigent said:

Definitely not a casual gamer here. Some people just know how to do the research to fix game-breaking bugs/issues. To each their own I guess. Nothing wrong with 4K/60. I liked it a lot when I had it. I just prefer 1440p/90+ because lag doesn't come into play. And I'm using a 2015 i5 at 3.0 GHz.

I started using 4k monitors in 2015. I bought them mainly for work since at the time I was a freelance 3D artist. My hardware choices have been for work first since the 80s. Without the "work budget" I could not afford the hardware I have. 

 

The 1440p 144hz monitor was the first non work related monitor that I bought since the 80s. It made me a fan of G-sync but I did not like the resolution. I bought the 3840 X 1600 monitor because I wanted to see if I it stood up better against 4k and it did. All the new games I buy are played at that resolution and only older games that don't like 21:9 are played on the 4k rig. 

 

Hopefully I will have the resolution I like with the frame rate you like by the end of the year. 

 

 

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