Tech Jesus aka GamersNexus reviews RX 580 2048SP aka RX 570 Ti?

[AlTech]

Tech Jesus aka Steve Burke from GamersNexus has reviewed the RX 580 2048SP thanks to his contacts who hooked him up with one from China.

 

A quote from Tech Jesus himself  - "An RX 580 2048SP is literally an RX 570 except it has marginally higher clocks".

 

Steve affectionately called it RX 570 Ti so I had to include it in the title .

 

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The GPU is an RX 570. AMD makes the RX 575 – or RX 580 2048, by their naming – and AMD deserves scrutiny for a practice which is predatory and misleading. This product is an RX 570. Even if the pricing is favorable for the RX 580 2048, even if it’s not an objectively bad purchase (it isn’t), it is still disingenuous to call the product an RX 580. All other points are moot. Just like it is disingenuous for NVIDIA to sell a GT 1030 with DDR4 while still keeping the same base name, it is equally disingenuous for AMD to sell an RX 580 with 2048 SPs while keeping the same base name.

 

Some benchmarks:

 

 

The 580 2048SP generally performs on par with the RX 570 at stock speeds and approaches the RX 580 when overclocked lending credibility to the myth that GCN has issues with CU scaling and utilizing all the CUs.

 

The card has 4GB of VRAM although Steve foreshadows that this may not be exactly as it seems. We'll know more after he releases his followup video.

 

Definitely wish it was called an RX 575 instead and definitely wish they made them available globally replacing the RX 570 at the same price so people could get better perf per dollar whilst we wait for a true polaris sucessor.

 

Sources:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3405-amd-china-rx-580-2048-review-dataland

 

 

[Techstorm970]

It wouldn't be a "Ti" because that's NVIDIA.  It would be an x-skew.  So, RX 570x.  

[DocSwag]

For the last two benchmarks here are images that don't have the youtube bar  

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[AlTech]

15 minutes ago, Techstorm970 said:

It wouldn't be a "Ti" because that's NVIDIA.  It would be an x-skew.  So, RX 570x.  

Nope cos AMD already made an RX 570X and in that case it's literally identical to an RX 570 even in clockspeed .

Edit: To clarify it is an OEM card.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

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Sorry about that, was just an error with posting. I've replaced the bad images.

[mr moose]

I don;t like it, but at least you get a few more clocks out of the box if you are suckered in,  with the 1030 you get a memory downgrade. Although to be fair if you are buying a 1030 you are hardly going to notice the memory difference.

[AlTech]

7 hours ago, mr moose said:

I don;t like it, but at least you get a few more clocks out of the box if you are suckered in,  with the 1030 you get a memory downgrade. Although to be fair if you are buying a 1030 you are hardly going to notice the memory difference.

The problem with the 1030 is that the DDR4 variant performs significantly worse than the GDDR5 version.

[mr moose]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

The problem with the 1030 is that the DDR4 variant performs significantly worse than the GDDR5 version.

I would call an average of 20 FPS versus an average of 10FPS shit and unplayable in either situation.  But maybe it's just me.

[asus killer]

kudos for tech jesus, he could be profiting from another advertising bulshitt video about a phone or yet another razer laptop but instead he goes out of his way to buy a china only product and review it to show people the shaddy stuff this companies do.

[williamcll]

You know what's worse?

Some regular 580s are selling at a price EVEN CHEAPER than the 2048SP

[AlTech]

42 minutes ago, williamcll said:

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The regular 580 appears to be discounted though in the right image.

[cj09beira]

i bet there is a new 570 coming soon, as they cant only have the full die being sold (590), probably going to be a 575 which is the right naming scheme 

[asus killer]

2 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

i bet there is a new 570 coming soon, as they cant only have the full die being sold, probably going to be a 575 which is the right naming scheme 

this card is just for China, and besides what would be the point of that, the performance difference between 570 and 580 is not that great anyway, it would be just clutter to put another card in between the 2.

[cj09beira]

4 minutes ago, asus killer said:

this card is just for China, and besides what would be the point of that, the performance difference between 570 and 580 is not that great anyway, it would be just clutter to put another card in between the 2.

i was referring to the 12nm version of polaris, i should have been more clear.

[williamcll]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

The regular 580 appears to be discounted though in the right image.

True, but some other pages are still selling 580s equal or cheaper than the 2048 

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, asus killer said:

this card is just for China, and besides what would be the point of that, the performance difference between 570 and 580 is not that great anyway, it would be just clutter to put another card in between the 2.

The previous one was called a 470D. Which really what this "new" model is.

1 hour ago, cj09beira said:

i bet there is a new 570 coming soon, as they cant only have the full die being sold (590), probably going to be a 575 which is the right naming scheme 

If I'm guessing, a 24 to 30 CU model will end up the RX 660. Underclock it a little to meet the TDP range for the x60 series. They did this previously. The 7790, 8770, R7 260 and R7 360 and RX 455 (OEM model) all used the same 2nd Gen GCN die. The Ellesmere/Polaris 20 die is going to be repackaged for at least another 5 years. (The other little detail is AMD has assured support/new GPUs for the entire Polaris stack through 2024. It's their big OEM/Device part, so they'll be doing spins of it for a long, long time.)

 

On the consumer market, it'll go away probably in the 700 generation in the modern economies. 

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

11 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

RX 580 2048SP

why is AMD's naming scheme so weird? 

[yolosnail]

1 minute ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

why is AMD's naming scheme so weird? 

That is literally the most descriptive name I've seen a product have for quite a while

[TVwazhere]

14 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nope cos AMD already made an RX 570X and in that case it's literally identical to an RX 570 even in clockspeed 

RX570y

RX570x²

RX575

RX571

RX57X (massdrop edition)

[MEC-777]

7 hours ago, mr moose said:

I would call an average of 20 FPS versus an average of 10FPS shit and unplayable in either situation.  But maybe it's just me.

The 1030 GDDR5  version isn't that bad. But yeah, the DDR4 version performs about 40-50% slower. 

 

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As for the 580 2048SP, it's definitely misleading to the average customer that doesn't know the difference. I was looking on Aliexpress just yesterday at 580 prices and thought I saw some good deals. Then realized they were the 2048's. 

[AlTech]

4 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

The previous one was called a 470D. Which really what this "new" model is.

No, the 470D had 28 CUs (1792 SPs) instead of 32 CUs (2048 SPs) , had lower clocks than the 570, and cost less as well.

4 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

If I'm guessing, a 24 to 30 CU model will end up the RX 660. Underclock it a little to meet the TDP range for the x60 series. They did this previously. The 7790, 8770, R7 260 and R7 360 and RX 455 (OEM model) all used the same 2nd Gen GCN die. The Ellesmere/Polaris 20 die is going to be repackaged for at least another 5 years. (The other little detail is AMD has assured support/new GPUs for the entire Polaris stack through 2024. It's their big OEM/Device part, so they'll be doing spins of it for a long, long time.)

 

On the consumer market, it'll go away probably in the 700 generation in the modern economies. 

No, I think it'll go away in the RX 600 series at least for mid range.