NVIDIA skipping Volta for gamers? Ampere might be next!

[mr moose]

8 hours ago, Scitesh said:

 

 

James watt(to easy) 

Nooooooooooooooo!  anyone but him.

 

If it's going to be someone who designs steam engines then it should be Thomas Newcomen or Richard Trevithick.    TN was actual designer of the steam engine and RT who (despite watts best efforts to stop him) actually made it into the real advancement of the industrial revolution.

[Kamina]

On 11/11/2017 at 2:38 PM, Himommies said:

I would love to see a archeiticture called heisenberg

People might make fun it and call it Hindenburg.

[Bananasplit_00]

29 minutes ago, Kamina said:

People might make fun it and call it Hindenburg.

If it performs like shit we will, however inappropriate it may be

[cluelessgenius]

im not sure how to interpret this. lets say it is true. then yes maybe they are skipping volta but also maybe they are just making shit up in the middle. seeing as they dont have that much competition right now i fear its more likely theyll introduce like a "pascal-refresh" as "ampere". after all they have no real reason to skip volta and jump that much ahead.

[Jito463]

On 11/13/2017 at 4:57 AM, Curufinwe_wins said:

In no particular order people I'd rather see first: (non-exaustive)

Dirac 

I'm gonna say this one, just because of the laughs from people trying to type 'Titan X(D)'.  

[mrmonmon2]

On 12/11/2017 at 6:51 AM, Agost said:

Aaaaaaaaaaand I'm still waiting for custom RX Vega 56.

Which probably won't even happen

Mby you're wrong 

[Agosto]

6 hours ago, mrmonmon2 said:

Mby you're wrong 

That's a 64, not 56.

[mrmonmon2]

3 hours ago, Agost said:

That's a 64, not 56.

Still non refrence cards are just popping up, so there will be 56 nr soon most likely 

[Bit_Guardian]

On 11/11/2017 at 7:39 PM, Notional said:

Would not surprise me. After all, Pascal was never supposed to exist. Volta is out right now with HBM, but since HBM is just not good enough and too expensive, maybe NVidia decided to drop Volta so they could focus on GDDR6 instead of HBM in a different architecture. Besides it looks like Volta was just a tiny architecture upgrade to Maxwell.

 

Maybe AMD can get their act together and be relevant in the meantime. 

Volta was designed entirely from the ground up.

 

 

[Bit_Guardian]

On 11/14/2017 at 2:54 AM, cluelessgenius said:

im not sure how to interpret this. lets say it is true. then yes maybe they are skipping volta but also maybe they are just making shit up in the middle. seeing as they dont have that much competition right now i fear its more likely theyll introduce like a "pascal-refresh" as "ampere". after all they have no real reason to skip volta and jump that much ahead.

They're probably making some tweaks to Volta to tune it for gaming. I doubt it's a "new" architecture in the same sense as Volta being a brand spanking new design.

[Taf the Ghost]

6 minutes ago, Bit_Guardian said:

They're probably making some tweaks to Volta to tune it for gaming. I doubt it's a "new" architecture in the same sense as Volta being a brand spanking new design.

Scuttlebutt (and some interesting Twitter interactions between Devs) points to some fairly significant changes for the Compute pipeline. It's not really going to effect Gaming, though. Volta is an improved process node and Pascal+. At least for gaming. Expect roughly the same size dies, so more CUDA cores. Expect probably 25% improvement at each of the cost-segments that currently exists. Pretty much shoving every 10X0 down a rank.

 

Compute side, though, looks to get some pretty solid improvements. We'll find out more in Q2 2018.

[Bit_Guardian]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Scuttlebutt (and some interesting Twitter interactions between Devs) points to some fairly significant changes for the Compute pipeline. It's not really going to effect Gaming, though. Volta is an improved process node and Pascal+. At least for gaming. Expect roughly the same size dies, so more CUDA cores. Expect probably 25% improvement at each of the cost-segments that currently exists. Pretty much shoving every 10X0 down a rank.

 

Compute side, though, looks to get some pretty solid improvements. We'll find out more in Q2 2018.

Volta was a ground-up brand new design. See the presentation I linked a couple posts ago.

[Dylanc1500]

11 minutes ago, Bit_Guardian said:

Volta was a ground-up brand new design. See the presentation I linked a couple posts ago.

Use this link as it is a good read, as it does a great job of explaining a lot of the differences and changes in depth.

 

https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/inside-volta/

[Bit_Guardian]

21 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Use this link as it is a good read, as it does a great job of explaining a lot of the differences and changes in depth.

 

https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/inside-volta/

Yes, but that's not suggestive of the fundamental design differences. Most of the devblogs articles are good for the high-level explanations and comparisons, but if you want to really dig into the hardware details, it's like pulling teeth to get details out of Nvidia. This is a rare glimpse behind the curtain on how the design teams do things.

[Dylanc1500]

14 minutes ago, Bit_Guardian said:

Yes, but that's not suggestive of the fundamental design differences. Most of the devblogs articles are good for the high-level explanations and comparisons, but if you want to really dig into the hardware details, it's like pulling teeth to get details out of Nvidia. This is a rare glimpse behind the curtain on how the design teams do things.

Yes, I know but it goes in depth enough to be able to note the differences in the architecture at a low enough level. Most people don't even know about the devblog articles. I can't go much further than that though.

[DanielMDA]

On 11/11/2017 at 4:32 PM, MoonSpot said:

Skipping, or inserting a half step upgrade in the middle for fun and profits?

 

Vega and Polaris are stars(or star systems if you prefer).  Not nearly as inanimate as AMDs refreash rate counter.  Nvidia should just get smart and name the architectures after noteworthy physicists instead of dead people.

Are you aware that Blaise Pascal discovered alongside many things, the reaction of Water to pressure, he was a great Physicist. And Alessandro Volta made the first battery (HE F`N MADE BATTERIES) he is so noteworthy that electricity is measured in VOLTAGE.

[MoonSpot]

41 minutes ago, DanielMDA said:

Are you aware that Blaise Pascal discovered alongside many things, the reaction of Water to pressure, he was a great Physicist. And Alessandro Volta made the first battery (HE F`N MADE BATTERIES) he is so noteworthy that electricity is measured in VOLTAGE.

Spoiler

 

I guess specifically mentioning "noteworthy physicists" didn't do a good job of relaying sarcasm.  Probably should have suggested noteworthy veterinarians instead, cause I guess that might've made sense... to someone? Maybe ... yeah?  no?

Perhaps a catch all "scientists" to be safe and vague, but they ARE all physicists.

 

 

[Princess Luna]

Quite frankly I'm only upgrading at nVidia Koduri I think that by then there'll be enough of a change from our Maxwell refreshes