NVIDIA skipping Volta for gamers? Ampere might be next!

[GOTSpectrum]

On 11/11/2017 at 10:51 PM, Zodiark1593 said:

I'd like to see a Curie architecture in there too...

I'd like to see Einstein for a new even higher tier compute card. 

[leadeater]

9 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

I'd like to see Einstein for a new even higher tier compute card. 

Not sure I'd want a compute card that only gives me relative computation results.

 

Spoiler

Sorry best I could come up with .

 

[GOTSpectrum]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Not sure I'd want a compute card that only gives me relative computation results.

 

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Sorry best I could come up with .

 

It's even worse when the results are theoretical.

[laminutederire]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

Ernest Rutherford would be my vote, not at all biased 

Knowing Nvidia they'll choose Bernoulli. Since there were something like 16 of them, you cannot choose better to confuse everyone with the naming scheme

[Curufinwe_wins]

As a scientist myself, I would much prefer if they stayed away from Einstein... As far away as possible.  

 

Good lord people, yes incredibly important... But sooo disproportionately famous in the media.

 

In no particular order people I'd rather see first: (non-exaustive)

Carnot

Rankine

Brayton 

Becquerel

Curie

Röntgen

Lorentz

Boltzmann

Dirac 

Yukawa

Meitner 

Gauss 

Mendelev

Musa al-Khwarizmi

 

 

 

[Bananasplit_00]

4 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Röntgen

now this would be interesting to see  

[leadeater]

6 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

As a nuclear engineer myself, I would much prefer if they stayed away from Einstein... As far away as possible.  

 

Good lord people, yes incredibly important... But sooo disproportionately famous in the media.

 

In no particular order people I'd rather see first: (non-exaustive)

Carnot

Rankine

Brayton 

Becquerel

Curie

Röntgen

Lorentz

Boltzmann

Dirac 

Yukawa

Meitner 

Gauss 

Mendelev

Musa al-Khwarizmi

But where would nuclear physics be without Rutherford 

[Taf the Ghost]

@Curufinwe_wins @leadeater

 

I'm hoping for Oppenheimer eventually. It'll go out with a bang.

[laminutederire]

29 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

 

 

You forgot Nvidia Perelman, the award winning arch which flees into the forest!

More seriously, it would be fun to have a ranking edition for sub zero cooling on the graphics card

[Sfekke]

If they just released this to the public, whether AMD could beat it or not.
Would allow for a huge leap forward in graphics performance.

While I do imagine manufacturing prices for those are sky high (or profit margin is sky high)

[davrosG5]

On 11/11/2017 at 10:57 PM, laminutederire said:

Please don't say that... they'll give us green leds everywhere for the spooky radioactive effect with such a name! 

Except of course that radiation is usually blue, not green (except in the Simpsons).

 

Oh well, sounds like my 970 will be good for while then 

[laminutederire]

56 minutes ago, davrosG5 said:

Except of course that radiation is usually blue, not green (except in the Simpsons).

 

Oh well, sounds like my 970 will be good for while then 

Marketing appeals to the mind of the masses and for masses it is green

[Bananasplit_00]

58 minutes ago, davrosG5 said:

Oh well, sounds like my 970 will be good for while then 

for 1080p at least. 1440p it struggles for high

[davrosG5]

48 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

for 1080p at least. 1440p it struggles for high

Not for anything I play it doesn't, or not that I've noticed anyway.

[michaelocarroll007]

On 11/11/2017 at 6:13 PM, laminutederire said:

And the fact that the CEO specifically said they weren't going to release anything until quite a time, because Pascal was "unbeatable".

They said this in reference to This holiday season Though Right? So maybe 1st or 2nd QTR of 2018 they will start announcing Next Gen 

[Bananasplit_00]

1 hour ago, davrosG5 said:

Not for anything I play it doesn't, or not that I've noticed anyway.

I don't play the most demanding games but my 970 struggled with most titles I play, at least on high or ultra

[laminutederire]

1 hour ago, michaelocarroll007 said:

They said this in reference to This holiday season Though Right? So maybe 1st or 2nd QTR of 2018 they will start announcing Next Gen 

Yeah but I thi k they also they said that because deep down they know Volta would be pointless since it doesn't improve that much what you can have with Pascal, at least for gaming. Therefore you can just skip it and focus resources on the next big thing which will be an improvement over Pascal in a more significant way. Because they know that if they do not provide enough it will disappoint many people!

[Klovnious]

Does buying something other than GTX10xx make sense for high end gaming today and the following years? Don't think there so much to gain upgrading every generation, maybe before.

[Bananasplit_00]

1 minute ago, Klovnious said:

Does buying something other than GTX10xx make sense for high end gaming today and the following years? Don't think there so much to gain upgrading every generation, maybe before.

The 980TI makes sense if you find it used and plan on 1440p

[michaelocarroll007]

15 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

Yeah but I thi k they also they said that because deep down they know Volta would be pointless since it doesn't improve that much what you can have with Pascal, at least for gaming. Therefore you can just skip it and focus resources on the next big thing which will be an improvement over Pascal in a more significant way. Because they know that if they do not provide enough it will disappoint many people!

Yeah i could see them doing it for this reason. But I just want a Next Gen Gaming card could care less what "Architecture"  its called as long as it brings some decent upgrades. I really want to get something above my  4 year old r9 290 and 3 year old GTX970 so every card under $400 isnt really an upgrade at all. and a 1070 is about double but still doesnt reach the 4k 60fps im looking to achieve  and the 1080ti is just way higher of a price. 

 

Just feels weird that theres not that clear Huge Upgrade over a 4 year old card. Both handle 1080p just fine in todays games but Im itching for an upgrade. i really i guess want 1080TI Performance around 400-550 dollars Hopefully like past generation jumps the 1170 will do just that. 

[michaelocarroll007]

22 minutes ago, Klovnious said:

Does buying something other than GTX10xx make sense for high end gaming today and the following years? Don't think there so much to gain upgrading every generation, maybe before.

Yeah i felt like i Would have to upgrade every year when i got into PC Gaming i got a r9 290 which is 4 years old and its still playing every single Tripple A game on High 

[Scitesh]

 

On 11/12/2017 at 3:54 AM, Himommies said:

The fact that Nvidia names their GPU's after dead pepole still bothers me.They should name it after inanimate objects like Vega

Not me

On 11/12/2017 at 4:08 AM, Himommies said:

I would love to see a archeiticture called heisenberg

Rontgen

Wallace(yup the warrior) 

Clarke

JJ thompson

James watt(to easy) 

Oppenheimer

Also for heisenberg they would have to embrace the colour blue

On 11/12/2017 at 4:12 AM, MoonSpot said:

Random?  Which ones were those?

Nikola Tesla

Enrico Fermi

Johannes Kepler

James Clerk Maxwell

Blaise Pascal

Alessandro Volta

 

 

On 11/12/2017 at 10:13 AM, VegetableStu said:

Hawking Titan X would sound so badass

Nah it would be too slow, but in the other hand silence enthusiasts would be thrilled

On 11/12/2017 at 1:52 PM, Master Disaster said:

They could do the old AMD trick for the 1100/2000 series...

 

Titan XP becomes Titan X

Titan Xp becomes 11/2080ti

1080ti becomes 11/2080

1080 becomes 11/2070ti

1070ti becomes 11/2070

 

And it continues down the chain, a small boost in clock speed and/or something like GPU Boost 4.0 and suddenly Nvidia have a new lineup of cards without devaluing Volta.

As I see it

Titan xp - 2080

Titan x - 2070ti

1080ti-2070

1080/70ti-2060 (higher end) 

1070 - 2060 (lower end variant) 

1060 6gb  - 2050 ti

1060 3gb - 2050

1050ti - 2030 (ti?) 

1050 - 2030

On 11/12/2017 at 2:20 PM, Master Disaster said:

Oh 100% agreed, look what happened to Intel when they had no competition. They sat on ass for so long that when the competition came back they weren't ready for it. 

 

I'm not exactly au fais with compute stuff but it's my understanding that CUDA pretty much has dominance over OpenCL and that Nvidia products are almost a requirement in that sector so I don't think Nvidia really care if they're competing against themselves, heck they released 2 Titan cards into the consumer market with only a few months between them. Ultimately as long as Mr Joe Customer buys Nvidia they don't care which SKU.

 

Ignoring the Titan cards (which Nvidia say are not gaming cards anyway) Nvidia haven't been so far ahead at the top in a long time either and Vega was supposed to be AMDs answer to 1080ti. It failed. A good business is able to react to current trends and base decisions on what's currently happening in the market. Is now the right time for Nvidia to release a new architecture?

 

Vega ultimately failed in its goal

RTG just lost their lead Engineer

Intel are trying to make GPUs

Intel & AMD just teamed up to try and take some market share in the mid range laptop sector

 

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if we didn't see a reversal of Nvidias usual tactics where they release Small Volta first this time around and try to hold onto the mid range market that Intel & AMD are trying to take. We know Big Volta is ready so it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they hold onto big for a while longer and release small first.

G they would start with a new titan x

And launch 2080 /70/60 down the road

8 hours ago, laminutederire said:

Knowing Nvidia they'll choose Bernoulli. Since there were something like 16 of them, you cannot choose better to confuse everyone with the naming scheme

Here is our new architecture 

Named after a famous figure of mathematics- which one? 

The one who studied fluids - which one? 

 

6 hours ago, davrosG5 said:

Except of course that radiation is usually blue, not green (except in the Simpsons).

Kryponite

 

Also the blue needs to be 99.1% pure 

[Curufinwe_wins]

8 hours ago, leadeater said:

But where would nuclear physics be without Rutherford 

Non-exhaustive list heh.

 

8 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

now this would be interesting to see  

It really would.

8 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

@Curufinwe_wins @leadeater

 

I'm hoping for Oppenheimer eventually. It'll go out with a bang.

They already have Fermi.

[Bananasplit_00]

2 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

It really would.

can you imagine the entire tech world looking for the ö key all the time and failing to pronounce it, it would be cringy as hell and hilarius

[Curufinwe_wins]

4 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

can you imagine the entire tech world looking for the ö key all the time and failing to pronounce it, it would be cringy as hell and hilarius

Yeah but in doubt, they can always just use Roentgen.