LTT Official Folding Month 2020!!!

[kelvinhall05]

9 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Does feel like some of the prize requirements are a bit too high tbh and are unachieveable without either A) 24/7 mining on less than a Vega or B) Buying multiple high end GPUs.

While I see your point I don't think the prizes are what you should be folding for.

[LAR_Systems]

47 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

What kind of PPD do I need?

 

My V56 currently says 220K PPD but I won't be running it 24/7 for this.

 

I do have to register my objections to the 1 WU per day thing cos GPU WUs are really huge. Only way I could get this besides running 24/7 is through CPU WUs which are insanely tiny by comparison.

 

Does feel like some of the prize requirements are a bit too high tbh and are unachieveable without either A) 24/7 folding mining on less than a Vega or B) Buying multiple high end GPUs.

Hi this information might be helpful for you to see how a Vega 56/64 folds on average.

https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_datasheet?gpu_model=vega_10_xlxt_radeon_rx_vega_5664

 

The Vega 56 should be able to get about 150,000 points per work unit and would complete 5-6 work units a day.

This means about 4-5 hours a day will net you 1 work unit and about 150,000 points.

So you can meet the 1 WU per day requirement folding while you're sleeping for example and have it off the rest of the day.

Even at 1 WU a day you will hit the point requirement easily if you're processing the 40 work units required at 1 a day which you have over a month to complete.  

 

The reason for the 1 WU per day / higher point incentives is to add folders to the network processing medical research data, so keep this in mind. It's not some brand promotion asking you to tweet nonsense everyday, it's for a good cause and it's pretty easy to hit a WU a day even on very slow hardware.

The data the above is based on is from real user data that have an API key for the F@H client to get the point bonus, so if you are seeing lower numbers you might want to check your settings, drivers and if you have an API key.

Hope this helps.

 
 

[AlTech]

3 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

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Does the software need to re-calibrate the estimates if I haven't folded in a while?

 

Cos the estimates I'm giving is what the software says.

[chaozbandit]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

What kind of PPD do I need?

 

My V56 currently says 220K PPD but I won't be running it 24/7 for this.

 

 

 

This seems unreasonably low as my V64 gets 750k-1m ppd on the current batches of WUs, the most common atm being P13426 at 150k/4h at 50% power limit. Do you have your passkey entered?

[LAR_Systems]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Does the software need to re-calibrate the estimates if I haven't folded in a while?

 

Cos the estimates I'm giving is what the software says.

What I'm providing is averages across different WU / Projects.
 

So yes,   The client does need to warm up... aka... it will show super low PPD until it has run a few minutes to get the fold time and then the displayed PPD will get better and show a more true number.

But work units by project vary in PPD, so some will give you more and some will give you less.   So you can get a lemon in terms of PPD, then get the next which is a unicorn giving out almost 2X of the last.  

If you look at the bottom of this page you can see the vast difference between projects to get a better idea.

https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_datasheet?gpu_model=vega_10_xlxt_radeon_rx_vega_5664

 

And you have to have the API key in the client to get these values.

[marknd59]

@LAR_Systems You forgot to plug your Chrome extention ! Everybody should check out Lar_systems Chrome Extension dark theme replacement of the standard for the F@H web client with real time PPD benchmark database gives feedback on your PPD by GPU model and WU.

 

https://folding.lar.systems/
 

[LAR_Systems]

2 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

@LAR_Systems You forgot to plug your Chrome extention ! Everybody should check out Lar_systems Chrome Extension dark theme replacement of the standard for the F@H web client with real time PPD benchmark database gives feedback on your PPD by GPU model and WU.

 

https://folding.lar.systems/
 

I don't need to, you guys keep doing it for me   I'm just trying to bring the PPD data to the people!

[AlTech]

10 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

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I have the API key.

 

I saw on your list the Project 16918. 16918 is running on my GPU and has been running for at least 3 hours by now and it says 7 hours ETA with 98K Estimated Points.

[LAR_Systems]

7 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

I have the API key.

 

I saw on your list the Project 16918. 16918 is running on my GPU and has been running for at least 3 hours by now and it says 7 hours ETA with 98K Estimated Points.

98K Points for the WU or PPD?

If that is for the WU then I would say you might just have a tricky fold for that project (cause again, all data are averages, the individual WUs vary) and it could be changing as they do over time.

But if that's your PPD I would be looking at drivers, power or other problems with your GPU.

You will also notice that the PPD / WU point reward will fluctuate if you watch it long enough as your computer is doing stuff (you use the GPU browsing, watching video, etc. and the particular folds are harder / easier.    

Edit: You can see these fluctuations in real time and play with your GPU settings using the Dark Mode web client @marknd59 mentioned and it will show you like this.
 

I made this because I had similar questions like you do trying to figured out why my card rocked sometimes and was terrible other times.

 

[AlTech]

33 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

98K Points for the WU or PPD?

WU.

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If that is for the WU then I would say you might just have a tricky fold for that project (cause again, all data are averages, the individual WUs vary) and it could be changing as they do over time.

 

 It seems to have gone up substantially though to 123K points for that WU.

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But if that's your PPD I would be looking at drivers, power or other problems with your GPU.

Estimated PPD is now a lot higher in software. Software says PPD is 600K and ETA is 3 hours.

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You will also notice that the PPD / WU point reward will fluctuate if you watch it long enough as your computer is doing stuff (you use the GPU browsing, watching video, etc. and the particular folds are harder / easier.    

Edit: You can see these fluctuations in real time and play with your GPU settings using the Dark Mode web client @marknd59 mentioned and it will show you like this.

Oh cool. Thanks.

 

I use Firefox though but I'll definitely keep a close eye on PPD or WU fluctuating estimates.

[Kilrah]

3 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

What kind of PPD do I need?

 

My V56 currently says 220K PPD but I won't be running it 24/7 for this.

 

3 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Does feel like some of the prize requirements are a bit too high tbh and are unachieveable without either A) 24/7 folding mining on less than a Vega or B) Buying multiple high end GPUs.

Huh? You need 500K points over the whole 5 weeks, and you can get that in less than 3 days.

[GrockleTD]

36 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

 

Huh? You need 500K points over the whole 5 weeks, and you can get that in less than 3 days.

Importantly though, still need 20 days or so of activity

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just signed up! Does anyone know how to have the CPU at full and the gpu at mid?

[litttrash]

whats folding

[cbigfoot]

OK having to pull out the whip Bender is slacking....

[Favebook]

2 hours ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Just signed up! Does anyone know how to have the CPU at full and the gpu at mid?

That slider will not affect how much of your GPU/CPU is folding, rather it will affect WHEN are they folding.

 

https://foldingathome.org/faqs/fah-v7/v7-introduction/web-control/folding-power-slider/

[cbigfoot]

ok weird one of my cards was throttled and ice cold. updated drivers and rebooted and looks better its actually boosting again.

[BlazerBuddy]

On 8/31/2020 at 1:13 PM, Parideboy said:

I've just set up my laptop to fold... this is not looking good lol

What does it mean to fold??

[marknd59]

22 minutes ago, BlazerBuddy said:

What does it mean to fold??

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases. It brings together citizen scientists who volunteer to run simulations of protein dynamics on their personal computers. Insights from this data are helping scientists to better understand biology, and providing new opportunities for developing therapeutics.
 

[BlazerBuddy]

3 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases. It brings together citizen scientists who volunteer to run simulations of protein dynamics on their personal computers. Insights from this data are helping scientists to better understand biology, and providing new opportunities for developing therapeutics.
 

Okay cool! If I am reading all these posts correctly how do you start “Folding at home”?? I heard people leave their computers on for along time XD. Do I download a software and let it run or something??

[chaozbandit]

4 minutes ago, BlazerBuddy said:

Okay cool! If I am reading all these posts correctly how do you start “Folding at home”?? I heard people leave their computers on for along time XD. Do I download a software and let it run or something??

Pretty much, set your profile and team affiliation then let it do its thing.

 

 

[marknd59]

9 minutes ago, BlazerBuddy said:

Okay cool! If I am reading all these posts correctly how do you start “Folding at home”?? I heard people leave their computers on for along time XD. Do I download a software and let it run or something??

 

[BlazerBuddy]

15 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

 

Ahh I see thx! So my question now is it is talking about running a OS or something on my pc?? What does it do to the pc. Or is at as simple as like a in person GUI??

[justpoet]

4 minutes ago, BlazerBuddy said:

Ahh I see thx! So my question now is it is talking about running a OS or something on my pc?? What does it do to the pc. Or is at as simple as like a in person GUI??

If you just install the application and run it under Windows or Mac or whatever you're currently running, it'll just work like an application and you'll be good to go.  More advanced users with dedicated hardware, or who already don't run Windows, often run on Linux.  But there is no need to do anything other than install and set up the application.

[BlazerBuddy]

5 minutes ago, justpoet said:

If you just install the application and run it under Windows or Mac or whatever you're currently running, it'll just work like an application and you'll be good to go.  More advanced users with dedicated hardware, or who already don't run Windows, often run on Linux.  But there is no need to do anything other than install and set up the application.

Oh okay, I just saw some pictures of the windows GUI and saw that some of the lists to do. One said 3.5 hours and the other said like 13.5 hours. Let’s say I start running the 3 hour one. Will I be able to use the pc during the time or not??