S10 accidental price reveal.

[dizmo]

5 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Samsung M series? I haven't heard a word of them.

 

No Key devices for me. Physical keyboards that tiny are impossible to do anything with.

They're not released yet, coming out at MWC.

Have you ever actually used a PKB that small for any amount of time though?

[Syntaxvgm]

How come people like college students are spending more on their phone than they do a car? 

I get people that can afford it, but like everyone gets these super expensive phones. 

[ZacoAttaco]

4 hours ago, dizmo said:

Kind of flawed though, no? You're looking at pricing of flagship phones. Yes, they're going to be expensive, just like a high end gaming machine is (and no, you can't get one for the price of a phone). If you can't afford flagship phones, there are plenty of lower priced options.

I mean, you're right in the sense that it's a flagship for a reason, but personally I use iOS devices and the rate of iPhone price inflation means my options are limited. Apple simply doesn't have the same budget options that are available as devices running an Android skin. So for me this is more of a personal bias.

[Noctus]

1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

How come people like college students are spending more on their phone than they do a car? 

I get people that can afford it, but like everyone gets these super expensive phones. 

Because pretty much all car deals don't cost 40 quid/month lol

[Syntaxvgm]

26 minutes ago, Noctus said:

Because pretty much all car deals don't cost 40 quid/month lol

most people looking for something cheap spend in the range of 1000-1500 US on a car where I live, and those same people spend that much/more on phones and shit. It makes little sense to me when having a working car around here is pretty much a requirement to stay employed. 

[Thony]

They dont want you to buy the phones, they want you to lock yourself into a contract..

[LAwLz]

2 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

How come people like college students are spending more on their phone than they do a car? 

I get people that can afford it, but like everyone gets these super expensive phones. 

Not sure how it is where you live, but here in Sweden it can probably be explained with:
1) Most peoples' cars are more expensive than their phones. Our cars are generally in good shape and fairly new, because we have mandatory checkups every year and if it doesn't pass inspection you are not allowed to drive them. Not sure if other countries has that, but I don't think so.

 

2) Most decent jobs (which is to say, not burger flipper at McDonald's) gives all employees phones, and they are generally pretty good. Not all companies gives out the latest flagships, but it's usually last years flagship, or the previous one. For example one customer I am usually at are currently giving out iPhone 8 and Galaxy S8 to their employees.

 

3) I spend way more time on my phone than in my car. I'd even say my phone is more important to both my job, and spare time, than my car.

[Noctus]

3 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

most people looking for something cheap spend in the range of 1000-1500 US on a car where I live, and those same people spend that much/more on phones and shit. It makes little sense to me when having a working car around here is pretty much a requirement to stay employed. 

My point being, most don't have 1500 quid/dollars to spend in one go on a car plus insurance/tax/mot etc etc. ALOT of people can easily afford a 1500 quid/dollar phone on a 40/momth price plan. 

[Orangeator]

Fuck this, I am NOT paying that amount of money for a phone. Samsung has reached too far.

[Magnetorheological]

I got my S9 last summer for $520 unlocked. I'm sure prices will drop just a couple months after release in order to boost their adoption numbers.

[dizmo]

On 1/24/2019 at 2:34 PM, ZacoAttaco said:

I mean, you're right in the sense that it's a flagship for a reason, but personally I use iOS devices and the rate of iPhone price inflation means my options are limited. Apple simply doesn't have the same budget options that are available as devices running an Android skin. So for me this is more of a personal bias.

Definitely sounds like a personal problem
Apple has said time and again they don't make budget devices, and that's not their intended market.

[ARikozuM]

BOYCOTT SAMSUNG! 

 

Spoiler

There are too many fanboys to make that effective. 

 

Who the hell keeps buying $1000 phones?

 

 

[Drak3]

9 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Who the hell keeps buying $1000 phones?

Sup.

10 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

-snip-

No.

[Froody129]

On 1/25/2019 at 3:45 AM, Noctus said:

My point being, most don't have 1500 quid/dollars to spend in one go on a car plus insurance/tax/mot etc etc. ALOT of people can easily afford a 1500 quid/dollar phone on a 40/momth price plan. 

This attitude to debt is why people have to work until they're 70. I think it's stupid to pay so much for a phone. One that's less than half the price will be the same, usually with a headphone jack and longer battery life and a good camera. 

 

Being able to pay the monthly payment is not being able to afford it. A lot of the Ferraris and Lambos you see on the road are driven by people who think that monthly payment means they can afford it 

[Noctus]

2 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

This attitude to debt is why people have to work until they're 70. I think it's stupid to pay so much for a phone. One that's less than half the price will be the same, usually with a headphone jack and longer battery life and a good camera. 

 

Being able to pay the monthly payment is not being able to afford it. A lot of the Ferraris and Lambos you see on the road are driven by people who think that monthly payment means they can afford it 

Uhhh no. Having MASSIVE debt is maybe why you'd have to work till you're 70. Easily paying 40quid a month for 2 year's isn't. Doesn't matter that there are ones half the price with similar specs, if those who make it provide a way to afford it, people will buy. If that was the case everyone and their gran would be driving shitty 1-2 grand cars and there'd be nothing flashier.

 

And i think your definition of "afford" and alot of others differs majorly. Affording something does not mean being able to outright buy an item. Should people not rent a house because they can't "afford" to outright buy one? No, and applying that logic to everything else that can be had with monthly payment's is daft.

[TetraSky]

Can't wait to see the midrange, affordable, model.

[AqHu]

Honestly, Samsung (or any other company) will only charge what people are willing to pay. These days, there is obviously a market for high-end smart phones, and Samsung seems to be milking that trend. Although (I think) many of us are not likely to spend that exorbitant amount on an impractical upgrade, the S10 is priced appropriately for it's intended audience. No amount of new technology in a smart phone would make it worth over $1000 to me... but I guess there must be certain demographics where that is the case. And, perhaps sadly, it is those customers that Samsung continues to target.

[Guest]

People who buy Samsung will pay that. Samsung fanboys are just as bad as Apple.

[AqHu]

48 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

People who buy Samsung will pay that. Samsung fanboys are just as bad as Apple.

Yeah, that's for sure...

I'm not a "fanboy", but I do like Samsung phones in general, I just wish they would push more for high quality, innovative, mid-range smart phones.

[Noctus]

1 hour ago, RorzNZ said:

Samsung fanboys are just as bad as Apple.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Noctus said:

Well maybe worse. Paying 1700 for an XS because can't get an iOS flagship anywhere else, maybe (Not really) OK. But if you're paying 1700 for an Android phone you can get from OnePlus or Poco whatnot for like $500, well you're only fooling yourself

[Commodus]

17 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Well maybe worse. Paying 1700 for an XS because can't get an iOS flagship anywhere else, maybe (Not really) OK. But if you're paying 1700 for an Android phone you can get from OnePlus or Poco whatnot for like $500, well you're only fooling yourself

Thankfully you can't actually pay $1,700 for an XS Max... it's still bloody expensive, but not as over the top.

 

I'd say the beef with die-hard Samsung fans is that they'll rail against iPhone "sheep" while simultaneously devoting themselves to a brand that defines conformity and mass-market consumerism.  It's like declaring that real indie music fans watch American Idol... go, go, status quo!  It's fine to own a Samsung phone, but don't pretend you're enlightened because you bought a Note 9 instead of an iPhone XS -- you still spent $1K on a phone from a major brand.

[DanielMDA]

On 1/22/2019 at 5:26 PM, DrMacintosh said:

Ahh, the $750 iPhone XR looks a lot more affordable now doesn't it? Lol

iPhone XR´s Screen is awful. It is still 1334x750, barely HD, stretched through 6 inches. It is awful, you can see the pixels even from far away.

[Noctus]

8 minutes ago, Commodus said:

but don't pretend you're enlightened because you bought a Note 9 instead of an iPhone XS -- you still spent $1K on a phone from a major brand.

Different arguments to be had between buying a 1k "phone" and Android vs Apple.

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, DanielMDA said:

It is still 1334x750, barely HD, stretched through 6 inches. It is awful, you can see the pixels even from far away.

If you're going to comment about the XR, at least know the specs of the phone. 

 

1792x828 is a lot more than 1334x750.....