New AMD Zen+Vega CPU for $55!!!

[AlTech]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

It is not a Ryzen CPU, but I will add zen to the title.

Yeah sorry I realized .

 

still a really awesome looking APU. And makes it even easier to get into AM4 platform and avoid Intel's nonsense.

[Taf the Ghost]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

On Topic: Yay!!! Ultra budget low end Zen Cores in an AMD APU.

 

Finally a competitor to Intel's pentium although at this price point I would have liked to have seen a really low clockspeed quad core like a 2GHz Quad core with no SMT for this price.

They're failed RR parts, so they are what they are.

[JoostinOnline]

I'm disappointed by this. I thought we were finally done with dual cores.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yeah sorry I realized .

 

still a really awesome looking APU. And makes it even easier to get into AM4 platform and avoid Intel's nonsense.

It's a 3 CU Vega part, so it's ~27% of a Vega 11 on the 2400G. Minecraft should be viable, haha. 

 

It'll actually be interesting to see benchmarks with it. It's probably around as powerful as the top Intel iGPU.

[samcool55]

This is actually really nice. Like, it's not old tech, zen cores are current, vega is current, and both of them in a cheap CPU with a low TDP, that's really nice. The only thing we need are cheap A420 (or whatever the replacement for A320 will be called) boards.

 

[AlTech]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

It's a 3 CU Vega part, so it's ~27% of a Vega 11 on the 2400G. Minecraft should be viable, haha. 

 

It'll actually be interesting to see benchmarks with it. It's probably around as powerful as the top Intel iGPU.

Yeah probably. But the attractive thing with having Vega iGPU for me is 4K netflix, YouTube VP9 native support, and the next gen Video Core Next ASIC onboard . Would make for a really dank budget HTPC APU.

Just now, samcool55 said:

This is actually really nice. Like, it's not old tech, zen cores are current, vega is current, and both of them in a cheap CPU with a low TDP, that's really nice. The only thing we need are cheap A420 (or whatever the replacement for A320 will be called) boards.

 

Afaik it wasn't on any AMD roadmap but B450 and B350 boards are still pretty cheap already.

[samcool55]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Afaik it wasn't on any AMD roadmap but B450 and B350 boards are still pretty cheap already.

Yea i haven't seen any of it either and yes B350-450 boards are indeed cheap, but if you want a 55 dollar cpu you probably want the cheapest motherboard as well and 10 bucks can make a big difference.

The cheapest motherboards are still A320 boards but sadly they need a BIOS update which can be annoying.

[JoeCoke]

57 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

this is impressive. You can probably build a computer for $150 with this.

 

all you need is this, a motherboard, a cheap/used PSU, and a hard drive  and then shove it all in a case lol

If only RAM didn't cost so much...

 

But yeah, it's awesome seeing a CPU like this.

[Dylanc1500]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yeah probably. But the attractive thing with having Vega iGPU for me is 4K netflix, YouTube VP9 native support, and the next gen Video Core Next

Just to clarify, Intel's UHD has that ability as well. You might already know this, and if so I apologize, but just in case, I don't want someone reading it getting the wrong impression.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Just to clarify, Intel's UHD has that ability as well. You might already know this, and if so I apologize, but just in case, I don't want someone reading it getting the wrong impression.

Yeah i know. But before Raven Ridge, anybody wanting to do so on AMD's platform required a recent AMD dGPU.

 

One thing Intel's UHD 620 can't do though is drive 8K monitors unlike this and idk how Intel's iGPU handles multiple 4K monitors simultanously .

 

[JoeCoke]

21 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

I'm disappointed by this. I thought we were finally done with dual cores.

Ohhh cmon, it's 55$, and you know Ryzen CPUs have been selling under MSRP pretty much across the board. So I can see you being able to buy this CPU for like 40$ at Micro Center or something. That's awesome because you can get into the AM4 platform for next to NOTHING, and upgrade later. This also has graphics, not anything amazing obviously, but enough to make the system run. This is a perfect CPU to build for a non gamer with, like a parent, uncle, grandparent or whatever. Remember, not everyone multitasks. The vast majority of users just use a web browser and that's it.

 

So in this case, at this price, a dual core existing is fine,

[DrMacintosh]

Ok, now that I let reality set in a little, I realize now that its a 2C/4T chip. Then I realized how poor Windows performs with 2C/4T CPUs. You really want Linux or macOS for something like that to be a good experience. Windows for some reason spikes performance way too frequently and that really hurts the experience. 

[JoeCoke]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Ok, now that I let reality set in a little, I realize now that its a 2C/4T chip. Then I realized how poor Windows performs with 2C/4T CPUs. You really want Linux or macOS for something like that to be a good experience. Windows for some reason spikes performance way too frequently and that really hurts the experience. 

Well if you're doing simple tasks (which is what most will buy this for I imagine), it'll be fine. I was just using a Core 2 Duo (3ghz) with 4GB of DDR2 a few months ago and the web still felt snappy, and even played a little max settings Minecraft. (It was Windows 7 though, so I dunno if that makes a difference.)

 

Now the second you throw in some multitasking like a discord call or having a browser open while playing a game, the experience would start to stutter I imagine.

[geo3]

Why the hell would they name it Athlon?

[Dylanc1500]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yeah i know. But before Raven Ridge, anybody wanting to do so on AMD's platform required a recent AMD dGPU.

 

One thing Intel's UHD 620 can't do though is drive 8K monitors unlike this and idk how Intel's iGPU handles multiple 4K monitors simultanously .

 

That is true lol.

 

Well, technically they do have the ability to run 3 4096x2304 monitors at once. I will admit I don't know what uses you might be limited to in that circumstance.

[JoeCoke]

1 minute ago, geo3 said:

Why the hell would they name it Athlon?

Because sweet, sweet nostalgia. I'm kinda a sucker for it honestly, I enjoy seeing names like Pentium and Athlon still being relevant.

[imreloadin]

My first PC had an Athlon X4 750K in it so this hits me right in the nostalgia.

 

Then I saw that it said it wasn't unlocked...wtf AMD? Hopefully that's wrong since this is pretty much a rumor.

My good old 750K got up to a max of 5.4GHz but I ran it 24/7 at 5GHz.

[soldier_ph]

Holy sh*sh, AMD is back at it again.

[Hunter259]

41 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

I'm disappointed by this. I thought we were finally done with dual cores.

99% of people would be satisfied with a Sandy Bridge i3 with modern graphics and a ssd. This is a perfectly reasonable configuration that will please the low end market perfectly.

 

20 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Ok, now that I let reality set in a little, I realize now that its a 2C/4T chip. Then I realized how poor Windows performs with 2C/4T CPUs. You really want Linux or macOS for something like that to be a good experience. Windows for some reason spikes performance way too frequently and that really hurts the experience. 

I've never noticed a problem with it? Low memory is bigger issues than thread count.

[Dylanc1500]

3 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

My good old 750K got up to a max of 5.4GHz but I ran it 24/7 at 5GHz.

That must've been some serious universe silicon lottery.

[JoeCoke]

Ah, the CPU pulled an Intel and is locked. That's... kindof a bummer. Still some great value at that price seeing that it includes some usable graphics, but man it would have just been over the top if it were unlocked.

[Brooksie359]

39 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

Ohhh cmon, it's 55$, and you know Ryzen CPUs have been selling under MSRP pretty much across the board. So I can see you being able to buy this CPU for like 40$ at Micro Center or something. That's awesome because you can get into the AM4 platform for next to NOTHING, and upgrade later. This also has graphics, not anything amazing obviously, but enough to make the system run. This is a perfect CPU to build for a non gamer with, like a parent, uncle, grandparent or whatever. Remember, not everyone multitasks. The vast majority of users just use a web browser and that's it.

 

So in this case, at this price, a dual core existing is fine,

This is exactly what I was thinking. Was planning on building my sister a desktop for school and this would be a good option for something like that. Although I will probably go a bit more overkill than that just for fun. 

[imreloadin]

14 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

That must've been some serious universe silicon lottery.

It was pretty good, now it's retired to an easy life at 4.5GHz in my parent's desktop

[Syntaxvgm]

2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Dang Intel's lower lineup doesn't make any sense at all now. $55 CPU, $29 PSU, $29 Case, $38 SSD, $100 RAM still though

that's the thing, right we get competition back, we have these fucking memory prices. If it weren't for this, this would be a budget build golden age. 

[PlayStation 2]

This could make for some incredibly cheap and impressive HTPCs actually.