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LG are seeking display notch feedback and rumors show the LG G7 may have one!

Found this quite interesting while I was skimming through the news on the XDA Labs app. According to Mishaal Rahman over at the XDA forums, LG are seeking feedback on display notches which rather piques my interest as it could mean that the LG G7, which should be launched toward the end of April, might have a display notch. Now I personally am not a fan of all these bezel-less displays, removal of a physical home button, headphone jack removal and notches, but I've noticed that notches are seemingly the mobile trend of 2018, especially after Apple's world class iPhone X, which although is a good handset, is being ditched by many for Samsung's Galaxy S9/S9 Plus. But I digress, Mishaal Rahman manages to obtain this information from (quote after this so that I'm citing what was said on XDA):

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On a post over on /r/Android, LG support staff is seeking input from the community about the notch.

“We’ve seen a LOT of comments around “The Notch” over the past few weeks, from people who love the quick access to the menu to those that hate the wasted screen space. We would love to gather some more feedback to share with our R&D team- and this is where you come in. So…what do you think? Love the Notch? Or is it Notch your thing?” – LG Support on Reddit

Now Mishaal Rahman's view on this is rather interesting to me too, here's what he had to say on the front of the LG notch speculation:

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This seems rather timely given the reception of many devices that are confirmed to have display notches. OnePlus’ CEO even took to their forums to defend the decision to implement a notch on the rumored OnePlus 6, and even though the decision makes sense from a design standpoint, it’s something that will take time for consumers to accept. The LG G7 was spotted with a notch at Mobile World Congress 2018 (the feature image is a still from that leak). It is rumored to launch in May alongside an LG G7 Plus model, so we’re skeptical that any major design changes would be made based off of feedback here.

~Mishaal Rahman @ XDA Developers

Now here I can see that he finds it quite normal that LG are following the notch trend, going as far as to even mention the speculations about OnePlus' upcoming OnePlus 6 and its display notch. I agree with Mishaal that it makes perfect sense in terms of design and sales for LG to take the notch road with the G7, but do all manufacturers, apart from Samsung and some other phone manufacturers, really have to copy Apple with the display notches? Can't we just have one mobile phone manufacturer that breaks this trend, for the diehards like myself and I'm sure many others who appreciate a very basically designed flagship handset without all of these crazy attempts to fully immerse a user into their device? Hell I still use a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini (rooted with android 8.1) purely because I didn't really like the design of handsets after the Galaxy S6 (normal one, not edge). But, as Rahman states in his post on XDA:

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2018 may very well be the year of the notch. You either embrace it or you don’t.

~Mishaal Rahman @ XDA Developers

 

But if you don't agree with the notch trend, like myself, you really should check out LG's reddit thread and please do be sure to leave me your opinions on all of this in the comments below, really will be interesting to hear your input.

 

Full XDA Post: https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-feedback-display-notches-lg-g7/

Credit to @Mishaal Rahman over at XDA and LG on /r/Android for this most interesting information.

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I think the notch is ok on SOME devices. I hate it when every single device has a stupid notch. Instead of companies getting stuck on a trend I would like to see them implement their own designs or even go further and just make a bezeless display that takes up the whole front of the phone with features that make up for that,

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LG G7 had so many revisions at this point that I really wonder what kind shitty design they are going to come up with.

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So the new stolen from Apple trend is the fugly notch? Guess Samsung it is when I need a replacement for my LG V30.

 

 

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Just now, Levent said:

LG G7 had so many revisions at this point that I really wonder what kind shitty design they are going to come up with.

Still interesting though. Only design I like on LG is the Nexus 5X and I don't think LG even designed that, Google did.

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1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

So the new stolen from Apple trend is the fugly notch? Guess Samsung it is when I need a replacement for my LG V30.

Let's just hope Samsung doesn't go down the same route with the Note 9 or even the S10 eh?

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Still interesting though. Only design I like on LG is the Nexus 5X and I don't think LG even designed that, Google did.

I have no objections on the looks, LG cant seem to design a durable phone though. (see the motherboard issues that has been present since LG G2)

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1 minute ago, xriqn said:

Let's just hope Samsung doesn't go down the same route eh?

Doubtful, they maintain a higher screen to body ratio without it and without sacrificing decently sized chin bars.

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3 minutes ago, Bigbootyjudy said:

I think the notch is ok on SOME devices. I hate it when every single device has a stupid notch. Instead of companies getting stuck on a trend I would like to see them implement their own designs or even go further and just make a bezeless display that takes up the whole front of the phone with features that make up for that,

Just wait until one of these android phones with snitch actually sell though... well know it soon enough since Apple will sue them :P

Only Samsung is brave enough to do their thing and that's mostly why they dominate the android space.

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1 minute ago, Levent said:

I have no objections on the looks, LG cant seem to design a durable phone though. (see the motherboard issues that has been present since LG G2)

Haha yeah that stuff's being causing bootloops even in the newer LG phones.

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and here's why Samsung dominates the smartphone space: they don't blindly follow the competition 

 

EDIT: LG searching for confirmation in implementing the Notch, reddit thread completely opposed to it, proceeds to release the G7 with a notch. Logic.

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43 minutes ago, Fooshi said:

As a hater of the notch trend, if you HAVE to have one, do it like LG does it by blending it in with the top bar, essentially making it invisible.

 

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Do it any other way and you have a Fisher Price phone.

Yeah, the notch is an idiotic impractical gimmick. Because that is apparently all Apple are these days. And I'm not alone, the Iphone X is a fiasco.

 

I agree with you here, that is the best implementation, but you still run out of space for icons up there. I'd rather they didn't at all, and put some proper speakers or better cameras up there.

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1 minute ago, Notional said:

Yeah, the notch is an idiotic impractical gimmick. Because that is apparently all Apple are these days. And I'm not alone, the Iphone X is a fiasco.

 

I agree with you here, that is the best implementation, but you still run out of space for icons up there. I'd rather they didn't at all, and put some proper speakers or better cameras up there.

Proper speakers really would be a better idea than a silly notch. It just doesn't look neat at all having a silly little thing hanging on the rest of your screen.

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2 minutes ago, xriqn said:

Proper speakers really would be a better idea than a silly notch. It just doesn't look neat at all having a silly little thing hanging on the rest of your screen.

Indeed. I generally feel the same about rounded corners on the screen. Why? You just miss out on stuff, especially if you are watching full screen videos. How dumb. I have an old Galaxy 5 mini, and the batteri is great for like 5 hours. Stupid phone. I want MORE battery. I've seen the galaxy 7? aussie commercial, where some bimbo travels the world using her phone for everything. Great, but irl, her phone would die out after 4 hours of use like that. Give us more battery!

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1 minute ago, Notional said:

Indeed. I generally feel the same about rounded corners on the screen. Why? You just miss out on stuff, especially if you are watching full screen videos. How dumb. I have an old Galaxy 5 mini, and the batteri is great for like 5 hours. Stupid phone. I want MORE battery. I've seen the galaxy 7? aussie commercial, where some bimbo travels the world using her phone for everything. Great, but irl, her phone would die out after 4 hours of use like that. Give us more battery!

The only problem is that with more battery comes either a chunkier phone or an almost phablet like thing. Unless of course we develop batteries that can produce ample power whilst not draining too fast.

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1 minute ago, xriqn said:

The only problem is that with more battery comes either a chunkier phone or an almost phablet like thing. Unless of course we develop batteries that can produce ample power whilst not draining too fast.

Idk if that is true. Right now the manufacturers are making the phones so thin, they have to remove the audio jack connector. Do we really need the phone to be 1-2 mm thinner? I'd rather have that volume filled with battery. Over most of the surface (- camera, jack and such) + 1-2 mm, that is a lot of volume for additional battery.

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1 minute ago, Notional said:

Idk if that is true. Right now the manufacturers are making the phones so thin, they have to remove the audio jack connector. Do we really need the phone to be 1-2 mm thinner? I'd rather have that volume filled with battery. Over most of the surface (- camera, jack and such) + 1-2 mm, that is a lot of volume for additional battery.

Sorry if you misinterpreted there but I was referring to the thin devices that still have the headphone jack (such as older iphones, samsungs, etc).

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Just now, xriqn said:

Sorry if you misinterpreted there but I was referring to the thin devices that still have the headphone jack (such as older iphones, samsungs, etc).

Ah, sure. I don't want a thick brick in my pants either :D. But I'd rather have more battery than 1-2 mm thinner phone. Makes no difference. I mean what is the point? A lighter smaller phone? Not if you have to carry a battery bank with you everywhere anyways :(

 

Faster CPU's and built in nvme ssd's for super snappy usage is much more important than a goddamn notch in the display.

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4 hours ago, Notional said:

I generally feel the same about rounded corners on the screen. Why? You just miss out on stuff, especially if you are watching full screen videos. How dumb.

On a straight 16:9 phone, sure.

 

Phones like the S8, S9, and Note 8, the screen is 18.5:9, with navigation 'buttons' and the notification bar losing what was just dead space anyways, leaving a 16:9 area for actual content.

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Just now, Drak3 said:

On a straight 16:9 phone, sure.

 

Phones like the S8, S9, and Note 8, the screen is 18.5:9, with navigation 'buttons' and the notification bar losing what was just dead space anyways, leaving a 16:9 area for actual content.

As long as it's used like that, then I have no problem, but it becomes an issue when it's used like this:

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Just now, Notional said:

As long as it's used like that, then I have no problem, but it becomes an issue when it's used like this:

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Yeah I'd consider that phone unusable.

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You know, getting rid of the front camera may help a bit... I never use it, and it takes up space. I'd goals give it up to not have a stupid notch. Freaking fad statement... I like them trying to maximize screen usage, but come on..

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1 hour ago, Notional said:

As long as it's used like that, then I have no problem, but it becomes an issue when it's used like this:

iphoneX_fullscreen_video.png?t=152235367

Someone send that screen to warranty for the dead pixels. It does qualify, it has more than 5 dead pixels in one spot. :)

 

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