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[TVwazhere]

3 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

At this point I would get on forums and see if you can find someone who does. You're going to pay for it though I bet. might even have to remove your trans and ship it somewhere.

There's a dude in Florida that does it, and a few places like Mountune offer the rebuild service, but the rebuild service through Mountune includes buying the parts from them so their estimate of $1800 is including parts which I already have.....

 

If these "transmission specialist" mechanics dont back out on me, i might try looking into seeing if anyone has a spare engine support and transmission jack i can borrow for a few weekends. That would save me about half, but I'm not crossing my fingers that I'll be able to find one on such short notice.

[bcredeur97]

8 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

There's a dude in Florida that does it, and a few places like Mountune offer the rebuild service, but the rebuild service through Mountune includes buying the parts from them so their estimate of $1800 is including parts which I already have.....

 

If these "transmission specialist" mechanics dont back out on me, i might try looking into seeing if anyone has a spare engine support and transmission jack i can borrow for a few weekends. That would save me about half, but I'm not crossing my fingers that I'll be able to find one on such short notice.

well you want someone who you know wont screw up your transmission either.. they already told you they weren't sure if they could do it -- do you really want to risk that? iirc @warmmilk had a friend or something who had a miata transmission rebuilt and it ended up feeling like a marshmallow was how he described the result.

 

gotta find someone who knows what their doing or you trust they will "figure it out" properly rather than just simply guessing as people unfortunately do way too often nowadays

[warmmilk]

3 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

Two thousand dollars for the transmission rebuild in labor only. And thats just the estimate. The latest place I called isn't even sure if they can do it. 

 

At least it's an actual number. The guy before this wouldnt even give me an estimated price.

what car is this?

23 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

well you want someone who you know wont screw up your transmission either.. they already told you they weren't sure if they could do it -- do you really want to risk that? iirc @warmmilk had a friend or something who had a miata transmission rebuilt and it ended up feeling like a marshmallow was how he described the result.

 

gotta find someone who knows what their doing or you trust they will "figure it out" properly rather than just simply guessing as people unfortunately do way too often nowadays

[TVwazhere]

1 hour ago, warmmilk said:

what car is this?

2016 Focus ST

[Bitter]

10 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

Ok for one.. the MR2 spyder will not do 40 on the highway under normal circumstances with a 1zz.. much less a 2zz

two... it has zero storage space.. not exactly a corolla replacement

three.. I knew about the converter issue on those and the piston oil return holes clogging causing the oil consumption, didn't know about anything else. a lot of 1ZZ's even with oil consumption still get pretty high up there in miles tho. surprisingly reliable engine despite it's issues.

four... the 2ZZ gets worse economy than the 1ZZ lol.. and requires premium fuel due to the higher compression. thing screams tho. if you make it scream too much they like to blow up their oil pumps though, and if you make them scream around corners, they didn't have enough baffling with the stock pan so it would oil starve

I've put a lot of research into 1zzs/2zzs due to having a corolla originally with a 1st gen 1zz

If you do the 6th speed with a 6th gear swap you can cruise at much lower RPM and the gas mileage goes way up. Swap the 1zz pan on the 2ZZ and it helps with the oil issue, I'm nearing on being able to comfortably do a lateral G and getting worried.

[warmmilk]

51 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

2016 Focus ST

http://car-part.com/

 

website is bad at search results links, but looks like you can buy a used trans for sub 1k...  unless you know of someone thats good at rebuilding your specific transmission (like all the evo trans specialists, except for your car) buying a low mileage used one is usually a better option

 

good while you're in there mod is the clutch... I suggest using synthetic fluids even tho all the forum fanboi's will swear by the ford motorcraft stuff.  typically amsoil, although my latest fluid is Royal Purple (overall not a fan of the company) but my trans shift sooooo butter smooth... question now is how long will this hold up.  my last was Redline and it was good for about a year and a half including a bunch of track days.

[FuzzyYellow]

8 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

http://car-part.com/

 

website is bad at search results links, but looks like you can buy a used trans for sub 1k...  unless you know of someone thats good at rebuilding your specific transmission (like all the evo trans specialists, except for your car) buying a low mileage used one is usually a better option

heck, they're cheaper than I can get a replacement trans for my accord!

[warmmilk]

1 minute ago, FuzzyYellow said:

heck, they're cheaper than I can get a replacement trans for my accord!

thats cause your accord is often raided for engine swaps (and they also take the trans)...  nobody really swaps the focus st engine or trans into something else.  simple lesson in supply and demand.

[FuzzyYellow]

9 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

thats cause your accord is often raided for engine swaps (and they also take the trans)...  nobody really swaps the focus st engine or trans into something else.  simple lesson in supply and demand.

and the 6-speeds are pretty rare to begin with.

[TVwazhere]

1 hour ago, warmmilk said:

http://car-part.com/

 

website is bad at search results links, but looks like you can buy a used trans for sub 1k...  unless you know of someone thats good at rebuilding your specific transmission (like all the evo trans specialists, except for your car) buying a low mileage used one is usually a better option

I had a friend suggest a used transmission, but the thing is all the used ones have the same shitty synchronizer gears that are in the one I have right now, so there's no guarantee they wont break randomly (2nd, 3rd and 4th are most common)

1 hour ago, warmmilk said:

good while you're in there mod is the clutch... I suggest using synthetic fluids even tho all the forum fanboi's will swear by the ford motorcraft stuff.  typically amsoil, although my latest fluid is Royal Purple (overall not a fan of the company) but my trans shift sooooo butter smooth... question now is how long will this hold up.  my last was Redline and it was good for about a year and a half including a bunch of track days.

I've been debating this, I remember bouncing the idea off @bcredeur97 and he came back with I should stick to "low stage" clutch and flywheels since I'll never go over 400ftlb torque which is fair, but it's around another $1k for a low weight flywheel and upgraded clutch. My wallet already hurts  I also worry as little bit about chatter. I know you can get that with higher level clutches andd flywheels, but I couldnt find anyone that had used the one I was looking at

SPEC Clutch + Lightweight Flywheel

[warmmilk]

6 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I had a friend suggest a used transmission, but the thing is all the used ones have the same shitty synchronizer gears that are in the one I have right now, so there's no guarantee they wont break randomly (2nd, 3rd and 4th are most common)

I've been debating this, I remember bouncing the idea off @bcredeur97 and he came back with I should stick to "low stage" clutch and flywheels since I'll never go over 400ftlb torque which is fair, but it's around another $1k for a low weight flywheel and upgraded clutch. My wallet already hurts  I also worry as little bit about chatter. I know you can get that with higher level clutches andd flywheels, but I couldnt find anyone that had used the one I was looking at

SPEC Clutch + Lightweight Flywheel

are there options for better synchro's in the aftermarket?  I guess I just assumed you'd be rebuilding back to oem spec...  if the 2k rebuild option includes the improved parts that may be worth it.  and if someone makes those parts, they prolly know how to rebuild the transmission...

 

as far as while your in there clutch, not even necessarily upgrading.. oem clutches are usually pretty cheap (as long as you don't buy them from the dealer).  so unless you have super low miles, might be worth just getting a new clutch.  if you're looking to upgrade, I'm more of a fan of light weight 1 pc steel flywheels over a bolted together aluminum.  its rare, but you do see them fail occasionally.  a steel flywheel (ACT makes good steel 1pc flywheels) might be a couple lb heavier but the piece of mind is worth it to me.  and they're usually cheaper.  if you stay with the stock flywheel, make sure to get it resurfaced, even if you're going to a new oem clutch.

[bcredeur97]

11 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I had a friend suggest a used transmission, but the thing is all the used ones have the same shitty synchronizer gears that are in the one I have right now, so there's no guarantee they wont break randomly (2nd, 3rd and 4th are most common)

I've been debating this, I remember bouncing the idea off @bcredeur97 and he came back with I should stick to "low stage" clutch and flywheels since I'll never go over 400ftlb torque which is fair, but it's around another $1k for a low weight flywheel and upgraded clutch. My wallet already hurts  I also worry as little bit about chatter. I know you can get that with higher level clutches andd flywheels, but I couldnt find anyone that had used the one I was looking at

SPEC Clutch + Lightweight Flywheel

my main reasoning is so that you don't kill yourself everyday with the car's clutch, that way you can still daily drive and enjoy it rather than it just become a pain and a car you never want to drive. not to mention if you ever go to sell the car... people will feel that hard to drive clutch and not want to buy the car from you...

 

[bcredeur97]

In other news I was browsing copart for some clean title cars and found this is Renault Logan for sale in Florida... 

a. How did this thing get here

b. can it even be registered??? lol 

https://www.copart.com/lot/24463009 

[bcredeur97]

4 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

are there options for better synchro's in the aftermarket?  I guess I just assumed you'd be rebuilding back to oem spec...  if the 2k rebuild option includes the improved parts that may be worth it.  and if someone makes those parts, they prolly know how to rebuild the transmission...

 

as far as while your in there clutch, not even necessarily upgrading.. oem clutches are usually pretty cheap (as long as you don't buy them from the dealer).  so unless you have super low miles, might be worth just getting a new clutch.  if you're looking to upgrade, I'm more of a fan of light weight 1 pc steel flywheels over a bolted together aluminum.  its rare, but you do see them fail occasionally.  a steel flywheel (ACT makes good steel 1pc flywheels) might be a couple lb heavier but the piece of mind is worth it to me.  and they're usually cheaper.  if you stay with the stock flywheel, make sure to get it resurfaced, even if you're going to a new oem clutch.

he already purchased the trans parts. Upgraded I believe. He's looking for an installer.

 

also +1 on the ACT. I have the heaviest of the ACT flywheels in my car. Love it. Also steel gives some peace of mind that thing that is spinning at 7000 rpm right next to you wont fly apart and kill you

[dcgreen2k]

1 minute ago, bcredeur97 said:

he already purchased the trans parts. Upgraded I believe. He's looking for an installer.

 

also +1 on the ACT. I have the heaviest of the ACT flywheels in my car. Love it

What do the heavier flywheels feel like? I'm planning on getting a new clutch + flywheel for the Corolla over the summer and I don't know if I should get a lighter or heavier one.

[bcredeur97]

7 minutes ago, thegreengamers said:

What do the heavier flywheels feel like? I'm planning on getting a new clutch + flywheel for the Corolla over the summer and I don't know if I should get a lighter or heavier one.

Well I got the heaviest of the ACT ones.. pretty much most if not all aftermarket ones are lighter. 

Heavier flywheel = more mass, dont have to ride clutch as much compared to lighter when starting off and generally easier to drive every day, engine doesn't rev up and down as quickly as lighter one

lighter flywheel = less mass, have to ride the clutch more when starting off, harder to drive, engine revs up and down quicker

 

taking less time for the rpm to fall when you go to shift = shift faster without wearing syncros as much by just shoving it into gear. it's also fun/satisfying for the engine to rev so quickly

 

it's all a balance thing. I basically went "one step" lighter than stock, which I felt was a little too slow to rev. Racecar I would just get lightest I could find, daily driver... it's balancing act. 

[warmmilk]

16 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

he already purchased the trans parts. Upgraded I believe. He's looking for an installer.

 

also +1 on the ACT. I have the heaviest of the ACT flywheels in my car. Love it. Also steel gives some peace of mind that thing that is spinning at 7000 rpm right next to you wont fly apart and kill you

@TVwazhere

 

in that case ask the part manufacturer if they have a recommended installer

[TVwazhere]

31 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

@TVwazhere

 

in that case ask the part manufacturer if they have a recommended installer

I bought the Synchros and LSD from speed performance I believe. The hardware kit I bought from mountune (fucking hell one of those took forever) and they actually have a service that will rebuild it for you but it's even more expensive not including shipping to California to have them do it. I also have a contact in Florida who only does Focus ST transmission rebuilds which is nice, but that still means I gotta have a means to rip out the transmission myself (he said my overall labor price for what I was doing was fair though) 

 

I did have a local guy reach out to me (made a post on Facebook) and said he had transmission work done near me, but it was only the clutch and fly wheel. Dunno if they'd be willing to do more. The place I currently asked seemed very willing to do clutch swaps. At least if nothing else, competing quotes 

 

(Also the car only has 26k miles on it so the clutch is still healthy. Yes I've tried warranting it, but my local dealer won't even cough in its general direction because it's modified) 

[Bitter]

1 hour ago, bcredeur97 said:

In other news I was browsing copart for some clean title cars and found this is Renault Logan for sale in Florida... 

a. How did this thing get here

b. can it even be registered??? lol 

https://www.copart.com/lot/24463009 

Canada, came from Canada. I've seen a couple RenNO's running around with Canadian plates on them down here in the states, rare though. Likely was totalled in Florida and so stayed in Florida, maybe flooded out and their insurance didn't want to pay to haul it back up to Poutine-land.

[warmmilk]

1 hour ago, TVwazhere said:

I bought the Synchros and LSD from speed performance I believe. The hardware kit I bought from mountune (fucking hell one of those took forever) and they actually have a service that will rebuild it for you but it's even more expensive not including shipping to California to have them do it. I also have a contact in Florida who only does Focus ST transmission rebuilds which is nice, but that still means I gotta have a means to rip out the transmission myself (he said my overall labor price for what I was doing was fair though) 

 

I did have a local guy reach out to me (made a post on Facebook) and said he had transmission work done near me, but it was only the clutch and fly wheel. Dunno if they'd be willing to do more. The place I currently asked seemed very willing to do clutch swaps. At least if nothing else, competing quotes 

 

(Also the car only has 26k miles on it so the clutch is still healthy. Yes I've tried warranting it, but my local dealer won't even cough in its general direction because it's modified) 

Yeah... clutch and flywheel doesn't qualify as "transmission work"... I mean I'm not necessarily saying they can't do it, but that replacing a clutch doesn't qualify anyone for a tranny rebuild

[TVwazhere]

8 hours ago, warmmilk said:

Yeah... clutch and flywheel doesn't qualify as "transmission work"... I mean I'm not necessarily saying they can't do it, but that replacing a clutch doesn't qualify anyone for a tranny rebuild

Well all these places I'm looking at say they do "transmission rebuilds" but every time I mention 2016 ford focus they get timid.

[chaozbandit]

@warmmilk

 

[Bitter]

34 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Well all these places I'm looking at say they do "transmission rebuilds" but every time I mention 2016 ford focus they get timid.

I'm going to blame the Ford DCT for that, even though you have a manual.

[FuzzyYellow]

12 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

Well I got the heaviest of the ACT ones.. pretty much most if not all aftermarket ones are lighter. 

Heavier flywheel = more mass, dont have to ride clutch as much compared to lighter when starting off and generally easier to drive every day, engine doesn't rev up and down as quickly as lighter one

lighter flywheel = less mass, have to ride the clutch more when starting off, harder to drive, engine revs up and down quicker

 

taking less time for the rpm to fall when you go to shift = shift faster without wearing syncros as much by just shoving it into gear. it's also fun/satisfying for the engine to rev so quickly

 

it's all a balance thing. I basically went "one step" lighter than stock, which I felt was a little too slow to rev. Racecar I would just get lightest I could find, daily driver... it's balancing act. 

well I've got a dual-mass flywheel. 

 

honestly my car is so freaking easy to start. it's ridiculous.

[bcredeur97]

39 minutes ago, FuzzyYellow said:

well I've got a dual-mass flywheel. 

 

honestly my car is so freaking easy to start. it's ridiculous.

lot of cars have dual mass flywheels now haha, I bet it is. Manual trans in "easy mode"