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26 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Don't lump me in with them. I'm an enthusiast of mechanic design, be it engines, weaponry, or productive machinery. Not a guy with a wrench that reads the marketing garbage AFE/insert other "enthusiast" brand that can't legally warranty half of their products.

 

I fail to see a correlation between people screeching variations of "forced induction is more efficient!!! Reclaimed energy!!!" and anything I've said.

If you can't be civil. Please leave

 

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But for $15,000 you could buy a tube chassis from Factory Five and have them fit it with either the EJ25 out of a GD Impreza or the EcoBoost from the mustang!

 

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I'd rather have a Beetle. Sure, the 818 is cool, and it's faster and more nimble than the beetle, but it's not as cool IMO. The Beetle has character; It's an iconic, classic car. And I'm a sucker for old cars :P

 

 

We are on the same wavelength! I always wanted one for the simplicity. My dad had one and I loved it...

And they aren't super expensive....

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We're on the same wavelength on quite a few things it seems :P

 

I have to add it to my cars to own in the future. I'm just hoping that the high amounts of them VW produced is enough for the prices to stay low until I can afford one..

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I'd rather have a Beetle. Sure, the 818 is cool, and it's faster and more nimble than the beetle, but it's not as cool IMO. The Beetle has character; It's an iconic, classic car. And I'm a sucker for old cars :P

We're on the same wavelength on quite a few things it seems :P

I have to add it to my cars to own in the future. I'm just hoping that the high amounts of them VW produced is enough for the prices to stay low until I can afford one..

Definitely... Love the idea of driving a bug around town. And the sound....

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So, what's better to start with. Coilovers? Or new sway bars?

 

Looking at what will help with handling the most

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Just imagine this build as a S13 hatch. That's my dream

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If you had a Beetle, how would you make it?

Definitely a dune buggy or roadster.

 

So, what's better to start with. Coilovers? Or new sway bars?

 

Looking at what will help with handling the most

Sway bars I assume.

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So, what's better to start with. Coilovers? Or new sway bars?

Looking at what will help with handling the most

not exactly sure what swaybars actually do mechanically but I'm guessing they defeat body roll so I guess if you have a "problem" with that I guess that's what you would go for

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WRX Cop Car?

I'd be terrified:

 

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So, what's better to start with. Coilovers? Or new sway bars?

Looking at what will help with handling the most

Sway bars would be a good place to start. Alternate to coils would be bushings; a good set of tires is a must in any case.

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Sway bars would be a good place to start. Alternate to coils would be bushings; a good set of tires is a must in any case.

I'm thinking nice tires and coilovers to start out with, then sway bars down the line.

 

Rather get the big expense out of the line first

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After watching the new MCM i really want a Beetle...

 

 

 

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If you had a Beetle, how would you make it?

 

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After watching the new MCM i really want a Beetle...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you had a Beetle, how would you make it?

I'd do exactly what they did. Except a bigger turbo :D

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I don't see a car, just some woods. Where'd it go?

 

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So, what's better to start with. Coilovers? Or new sway bars?

 

Looking at what will help with handling the most

 

When it comes to handling you have to make a choice as to what exactly you want. The real answer to your question "what will help with handling the most?", is actually coilovers with specific spring rates and NO sway bars. That's right. If you want uncompromised corner-hugging, face-ripping lateral mechanical grip, yank those sway bars out and install a custom coilover setup.

 

There's an enormous amount of detail I could go into with regards to suspension setup formulas, etc. but the short end of it is; it's better to have the spring rates control vehicle roll rate than sway bars. Why? Because sway bars transfer spring rate force from one side of the vehicle to the other, effectively changing the wheel-rate. This causes the outside tires to become over loaded and the inside tires to become underloaded, reducing total mechanical grip. If there are bumps mid-corner, well that just makes the effect worse and leads to instability and unpredictability. There is actually a mathematical formula to calculate ideal spring rates that incorporates a wide range of vehicle-specific factors. (If anyone's interested in seeing how this works, let me know.)

 

Now, I'm assuming this is a mostly street driven vehicle? Do you do any forms of motorsport competition with the car? The reason I ask is because for mainly street applications, I recommend the opposite - keep with softer springs and use beefier sway bars. Why? Because on the street you drive in a straight line the majority of the time and ride comfort is more of a priority. If you go the "no sway bar" method, you'll need substantially stiffer springs/shocks which does not provide a smooth ride at all. With softer springs and bigger sway bars, you have a nicer ride and controlled body roll which can improve handling, but this combo will never handle as well as the spring rate method. 

 

Depending on personal tastes, you can compromise and go with mild coilovers and keep the stock sway bars. This will give you better handling at the expense of a little bumpier ride, but it's up to you how far you want to take it. With our MR2 in full race setup, it was a VERY rough ride. Definitely would not want to drive that everyday. But man, it absolutely ate corners for breakfast, lol. It was also super stable and predictable. ;)

 

Long-winded reply, sorry. :P TL;DR:

 

For street use/ride comfort - Stock/mild springs with bigger sway bars.

For pure track/uncompromised handling - Calculated custom springs rates with adjustable dampeners to match and NO sway bars!

For street/track compromise - Mild/moderate coilover kit with stock sway bars.

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WRX Cop Car? I'd be terrified.

 

There is (was, IDK) one in Portugal.

 

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2018 Expedition

 

I don't understand why car manufacturers give cars model years and then release it 1 or 2 years before, like this

 

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We're still in 2015...

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I don't understand why car manufacturers give cars model years and then release it 1 or 2 years before, like this

 

We're still in 2015...

That's because it's not being released yet. The "2016" model year being sold in 2015 does actually make sense. If it's a 2016 model year and sold throughout 2016, even if production begins in the end of 2015 it's still a 2016 vehicle. Having a concept car a few years before production is just what it is. A non-production work vehicle being tested but will go in to production for its model year. That Expedition won't be available for just over two more years.

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That's because it's not being released yet. The "2016" model year being sold in 2015 does actually make sense. If it's a 2016 model year and sold throughout 2016, even if production begins in the end of 2015 it's still a 2016 vehicle. Having a concept car a few years before production is just what it is. A non-production work vehicle being tested but will go in to production for its model year. That Expedition won't be available for just over two more years.

 

It (kind of) makes sense now. :lol:

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It (kind of) makes sense now. :lol:

Still haven't heard of a model year vehicle being released two years earlier though. Just the last few months of the year.

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Still haven't heard of a model year vehicle being released two years earlier though. Just the last few months of the year.

 

That's why I said 1 or 2 :P

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Yep. Using classic and bump profile as well. ;)

 

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lol yeah :D

LOL I've been using Jack's tweaker for the past month, definitely less noticeable clipping than default but still not as good of a steering feel than what I had in Assetto Corsa. Using the 6th profile, classic and bump.

Funny story I linked @MEC-777 a week ago about this but appreciate the reminder :)

Top tip is get adjusted to the tweak asap before you start messing with car setup lol.

Started using it today. Way better feel now. Using the 6th option as well. But I havent tried the others

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In the mood for a jag today.. I'd like either of these

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