Car Enthusiast Club [Now Motorcycle friendly!] - First thread to 150k! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Zodiark1593]

7 minutes ago, vetali said:

Maybe if you are going for 0-60 times. With its gearing, torque is more beneficial. 

Getting 2nd gear to the rev limit gets you to 62 mph pretty quickly, though damn that gearing jump(read: chasm) between 1st and second. Were this a 6 speed, an extra gear between 1st and 2nd would be a major blessing. I feel the 0-60 times were a focus with the gearing choices, especially as 2nd tops out at about 62 for those metric heads. I'm used to it by now, but revving to 4K in 1st going up a hill just to not annoy traffic behind me on the 1st to 2nd shift is a bit excessive.

[vetali]

1 minute ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Getting 2nd gear to the rev limit gets you to 62 mph pretty quickly, though damn that gearing jump(read: chasm) between 1st and second. Were this a 6 speed, an extra gear between 1st and 2nd would be a major blessing. I feel the 0-60 times were a focus with the gearing choices, especially as 2nd tops out at about 62 for those metric heads. I'm used to it by now, but revving to 4K in 1st going up a hill just to not annoy traffic behind me on the 1st to 2nd shift is a bit excessive.

Thats why I don't like the car. 

 

Also, does yours "pull down" your RPMs once you hit rev limiter rather than just cutting off fuel like most other cars do? Its a weird feeling. 

[Zodiark1593]

7 minutes ago, vetali said:

Thats why I don't like the car. 

 

Also, does yours "pull down" your RPMs once you hit rev limiter rather than just cutting off fuel like most other cars do? Its a weird feeling. 

I don't commonly aim toward the rev limiter, though that is what it felt like. Considering the effect of engine breaking (electronic throttle probably closes at the limiter), this comes as no surprise. I would assume anything with an electronic throttle will probably behave this way.

 

Even my rushed pulled tend to see me shift at 6k, mostly out of mechanical sympathy, though when absolutely necessary (merging into fast traffic with semi trucks), I shift to 3rd at 7k (or just right below) without hitting the limiter. 

 

I wonder if a lighter flywheel would help with 1st to 2nd shift. Running the AC, the gearing gap is significantly easier to shift into.

[terrytek]

1 hour ago, vinyldash303 said:

One or two. Depending on what sort of shape its in if he buys it will really determine what gets done with it. I did some gargling and found this guy that makes heads and and intake mani for them that can get you 700 without forced induction.

 

Still though 375 hp 525 torque as is. New anyway.

holy SHIT i didn't think such a big engine would need few mods to achieve such power, and i thought it would be too lazy for its own good tbh,being a large engine and such.

40 minutes ago, vetali said:

I wouldn't of tried it if the compression ratio was in the 9s and a non VVT engine. You'd lose power + gas mileage. 

so probably a bad idea to put premium in my protege to see if it can be more responsive?

[vetali]

2 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

I don't commonly aim toward the rev limiter, though that is what it felt like. Considering the effect of engine breaking (electronic throttle probably closes at the limiter), this comes as no surprise. I would assume anything with an electronic throttle will probably behave this way.

 

Even my rushed pulled tend to see me shift at 6k, mostly out of mechanical sympathy, though when absolutely necessary (merging into fast traffic with semi trucks), I shift to 3rd at 7k (or just right below) without hitting the limiter. 

Yeah its what feels like what is happening. 

 

I usually shift to second at like 5-6k, then short shift 3rd and 4th, then shift to 5th when I'm at speed. 

[terrytek]

2 minutes ago, vinyldash303 said:

Well you need pistons and a nice cam too. But think about it, you have a lot of cubes from the displacement, you have a four barrel carb from fuel, you have loads of air from the intake manifold and heads, and a cam that lets you spin it a bit faster because you can get the mouth and butt working together.

 

Why would you need forced induction to get big power out of a *shudders* 7.7 liter V8?

because it's more fun that way? i like boost so boost = fun. but big power without boost is fun too.

[vetali]

8 minutes ago, terrytek said:

so probably a bad idea to put premium in my protege to see if it can be more responsive?

It wont kill it, but gas mileage and throttle response will most likely suffer. You can try it, just beware of placebo effect. 

[Zodiark1593]

4 minutes ago, vetali said:

Yeah its what feels like what is happening. 

 

I usually shift to second at like 5-6k, then short shift 3rd and 4th, then shift to 5th when I'm at speed. 

Yeah, I think I'm going for a lighter flywheel (and maybe a short throw) when it comes time for a new clutch, specifically to improve that 1st to 2nd shift.

 

When driving in Cheapskate mode, I shift in the low 2ks when cruising. The winding uphills spell trouble if a slowpoke forces me to 2nd, though otherwise, this car handles itself well enough around sharp bends that I can hold 3rd nearly all the way up. Can be a challenge in the rain though, an LSD might be helpful. Need some precision to avoid spinning the tire more than necessary.

 

[vetali]

Just now, Zodiark1593 said:

Yeah, I think I'm going for a lighter flywheel (and maybe a short throw) when it comes time for a new clutch, specifically to improve that 1st to 2nd shift.

 

When driving in Cheapskate mode, I shift in the low 2ks when cruising. The winding uphills spell trouble if a slowpoke forces me to 2nd, though otherwise, this car handles itself well enough around sharp bends that I can hold 3rd nearly all the way up. Can be a challenge in the rain though, an LSD might be helpful. Need some precision to avoid spinning the tire more than necessary.

 

The flywheel is pretty damn heavy. I didn't care enough when I did the clutch. I only was going to change it if it had a dual mass. I'm probably dumping the car early next year anyway. 

[bcredeur97]

7 minutes ago, vetali said:

The flywheel is pretty damn heavy. I didn't care enough when I did the clutch. I only was going to change it if it had a dual mass. I'm probably dumping the car early next year anyway. 

I like flywheel I have in my Miata now. Heaviest of the lighter options. Def revs up and down a lot quicker, but has enough momentum still so shifting isn't too hard. It's also not hard to get moving from a stop. 

 

Personally I don't see a point to going any lighter than what I have now. Seems like diminishing returns to me. And makes it much harder to drive.

 

And stock clutch definitely keeps things easy too. I love it.

[Zodiark1593]

Just now, vetali said:

The flywheel is pretty damn heavy. I didn't care enough when I did the clutch. I only was going to change it if it had a dual mass. I'm probably dumping the car early next year anyway. 

I didn't think anyone but Volkswagen used dual mass flywheels. 

 

I do really enjoy the handling characteristics though. It's probably not even close to Miata levels of cornering, though I do not feel excessively limited in driving through the mountains and can take a lot of turns and curves with barely (if any) use of the brakes, even going above 50 mph. If I want to drive calmly, the car does so smoothly, and if I want to break out the fangs, the car happily obliges.

[bcredeur97]

@vetali remember that squeak? I ended up fixing it... 

 

Turned out to just be the slave where it insert into the clutch fork. I guess from us washing the engine bay out a little surface rust appeared at the tip of the slave cylinder rod and because it wasn't smooth anymore it was making a squeak from the tiny motions that the clutch fork makes when the engine is running. 

 

Easy fix was grabbing some lube and coating the tip of the slave rod with it. Since then, 0 squeak. 

 

I love easy fixes lol

[bcredeur97]

@Zodiark1593 I know for sure Ford used a dual mass in the ecoboost mustang. Not sure about the GT

[terrytek]

23 minutes ago, vetali said:

It wont kill it, but gas mileage and throttle response will most likely suffer. You can try it, just beware of placebo effect. 

nah i'll save my money and stick with regular. premium is way over 3 bucks a gallon right now. somehow regular is still below 3 which i like, but i know it won't stay that way for long.

[vetali]

Just now, Zodiark1593 said:

I didn't think anyone but Volkswagen used dual mass flywheels. 

 

I do really enjoy the handling characteristics though. It's probably not even close to Miata levels of cornering, though I do not feel excessively limited in driving through the mountains and can take a lot of turns and curves with barely (if any) use of the brakes, even going above 50 mph. If I want to drive calmly, the car does so smoothly, and if I want to break out the fangs, the car happily obliges.

The Mazdaspeeds have them. GL finding info on that. I had to do lots of digging, and eventually just had to pull the trans to see if it has them. Lots of modern manual cars have them. Trucks had them first. Newer Tacomas do as well. They all have the same issues, the springs explode. 

 

Its handling is ok. Like you said, a LSD would make the car handle better than a lot of cars. Right now my motor mounts are getting super sloppy again. Its aggravating and makes the car very shitty. Just not in love with the car after 2 years. What I get to replace it will depends where I'm working. I may go with a truck next considering the Durango is ded now. Plus @vinyldash303 is egging me on to get a F150. 

7 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

@vetali remember that squeak? I ended up fixing it... 

 

Turned out to just be the slave where it insert into the clutch fork. I guess from us washing the engine bay out a little surface rust appeared at the tip of the slave cylinder rod and because it wasn't smooth anymore it was making a squeak from the tiny motions that the clutch fork makes when the engine is running. 

 

Easy fix was grabbing some lube and coating the tip of the slave rod with it. Since then, 0 squeak. 

 

I love easy fixes lol

Yeah you gotta lube all those pivot points. Fork fingers, fork anchor, and slave cylinder socket. 

[DannyRyu]

So I was thinking it would be pretty cool to buy a cheap project car and fix it up may be priced around the 1~3K range.

How difficult do you think it would be as a first car with really no true experience dealing with cars but a love for tinkering?

Any suggested project cars too? Preferably JDM

[warmmilk]

5 hours ago, vetali said:

Yeah those are NA though. Most likely a custom head. Even if you take a K24, its gonna be very spendy to bring it near that HP NA. 

 

Do you have rotor screws on your car?

K24 is waaaay cheaper for power.  Here's a 340 hp crate engine for 8k, less than 1/3 of the mountune 305hp MZR

http://www.4pistonracing.com/k24-340-2-4l-complete-engine

 

if by rotor screws you're asking if it's a 2 piece rotor, then yes. But it's not a floating rotor. The rotor ring is bolted solid to the rotor hat.  Here are a couple pics of my rotors when they were new

 

[AlwaysFSX]

5 hours ago, vinyldash303 said:

I don't know the whole story yet. I've been doing fuck all today so I haven't been paying attention to the news. Just something about protests and nobody willing to hear other peoples opinions, and somehow nazis are a thing apparently? Oh well. I'm going to wait to form an opinion until Philly D talks about it on Monday. He's pretty good about being objective.

Oh politics, your opinion is wrong because I said so, so I'm going to kill you.

5 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

trust your life with them?

 

lol

Just buy a couple dozen as backups.

[IKnight]

http://jalopnik.com/we-found-12-of-the-last-new-lexus-lfas-for-sale-in-amer-1797718447

 

[bcredeur97]

3 hours ago, ImadKnight said:

http://jalopnik.com/we-found-12-of-the-last-new-lexus-lfas-for-sale-in-amer-1797718447

 

The LFA was from 2012?! Good god I feel old

[vetali]

6 hours ago, warmmilk said:

if by rotor screws you're asking if it's a 2 piece rotor, then yes. But it's not a floating rotor. The rotor ring is bolted solid to the rotor hat.  Here are a couple pics of my rotors when they were new

 

No, I meant rotor screws like this:

 

 

But your pictures debunked that. I had a case once where a customer was complaining of a weird, faint clunk and poor brake feel. They had just had their brakes replaced. Took a long time to figure out because it felt like the pads were not the right size. Then I check the rotor screws and they were loose, so the wheel when torqued would rest against the screws rather than the rotor and the rotor would "float" in between the wheels studs. 

[vetali]

4 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Oh politics, your opinion is wrong because I said so

politics 10 years ago

 

4 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Oh politics, your opinion is wrong because I said so, so I'm going to kill you.

politics today

 

Its why I'm glad that stuff isn't allowed on this site. 

[terrytek]

7 hours ago, DannyRyu said:

So I was thinking it would be pretty cool to buy a cheap project car and fix it up may be priced around the 1~3K range.

How difficult do you think it would be as a first car with really no true experience dealing with cars but a love for tinkering?

Any suggested project cars too? Preferably JDM

datsun 240z? it has carbs so it might be easier to tinker with? or if you want fuel injection, maybe 280z?

 

29 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

The LFA was from 2012?! Good god I feel old

honestly one of my favorite supercars, next to the old nsx. god i have such weird supercar tastes. i'm not a typical lambo or ferrari or that kinda stuff fanboy. i actually like the japanese supercars mainly bc they're pretty unique lol

[iDeFecZx]

45 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

The LFA was from 2012?! Good god I feel old

Think they were 2010-2012 but I might be wrong

[AlwaysFSX]

28 minutes ago, vetali said:

Its why I'm glad that stuff isn't allowed on this site. 

Doesn't help when most people on this site can't have a difference of opinion about GRAPHICS CARDS, let alone governments.