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[Real_PhillBert]

Oooo! The 2018 Mustang GTs will be 460hp and do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, according to Ford. I get that the autos are faster, but I'd still buy the manual.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a10351073/2018-ford-mustang-gt-horsepower-acceleration-specs/

 

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For 2018, the Mustang gets all sorts of welcome improvements. We're especially excited that the GT Performance Package will get magnetic dampers similar to those on the GT350, and sticky Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S tires.

 

Also the Performance Pack will get the magnetic suspension out of the GT350s. Much goodness. 

[bcredeur97]

So so stupid that this story even exists 

 

http://www.katc.com/story/35963311/teenage-driver-livestreams-crash-that-killed-sister

[bcredeur97]

1 minute ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Oooo! The 2018 Mustang GTs will be 460hp and do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, according to Ford. I get that the autos are faster, but I'd still buy the manual.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a10351073/2018-ford-mustang-gt-horsepower-acceleration-specs/

 

Also the Performance Pack will get the magnetic suspension out of the GT350s. Much goodness. 

Seems the Ecoboost gets more boost too. 

 

Yay so now instead of blowing the engine by tuning it yourself, it comes pretuned for optimized rod-throwing FROM THE FACTORY

[Real_PhillBert]

Just now, bcredeur97 said:

Seems the Ecoboost gets more boost too. 

 

Yay so now instead of blowing the engine by tuning it yourself, it comes pretuned for optimized rod-throwing FROM THE FACTORY

The GT is really the only mustang to buy. 

 

I never understood why people got all excited about the ecoboost mustangs, but I have trouble blaming ford for people blowing up their engines after they tuned them. Poor tunes are always incredibly dangerous.

[PandaCopyRight]

9 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

So so stupid that this story even exists 

 

http://www.katc.com/story/35963311/teenage-driver-livestreams-crash-that-killed-sister

this is why phones should be banned  

 

 

 

i wish we could ban stupid people .... 

[bcredeur97]

20 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

The GT is really the only mustang to buy. 

 

I never understood why people got all excited about the ecoboost mustangs, but I have trouble blaming ford for people blowing up their engines after they tuned them. Poor tunes are always incredibly dangerous.

Yeah. I'm just iffy about that 2.3 though... Always have been. It's cursed lol

 

But give me a 2018 GT with a manual with the performance pack and that's a pretty fun track car

 

That said I wouldn't spend that much on a track car... At least not out of the box

[Real_PhillBert]

Just now, bcredeur97 said:

Yeah. I'm just iffy about that 2.3 though... Always have been. It's cursed lol

 

But give me a 2018 GT with a manual with the performance pack and that's a pretty fun track car

 

That said I wouldn't spend that much on a track car...

Yeah that's how I'd option one as well. But like you I wouldnt spend $45k on a track car. On a summer weekend fun car, maybe though.

[AlwaysFSX]

46 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Oooo! The 2018 Mustang GTs will be 460hp and do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, according to Ford.*

*With the auto and using Drag Mode

[Real_PhillBert]

6 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

*With the auto and using Drag Mode

Drag mode sounds analogous to "sport mode" in most auto cars, and autos are almost always faster 0-60 these days. 

[terrytek]

8 hours ago, wcreek said:

Out of these two which do you guys think is overall a better package?

 

2014-2015 Impala LS/1LT

or

2013-2015 Optima LX/EX

 

I guess I would add a third option if that was an option and say 2016-2017 Malibu Premier. But that's too expensive lol.

 

I guess for practicality and cost the 2013-2015 Optimas win. I almost feel the base Optima has more features than the base Impala. I'm probably wrong though lol.

what about a mazda 6? better looking car, and probably more loaded for the price than those two, and potentially more reliable. oh, and a much more fun fwd car than those two.

1 hour ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Oooo! The 2018 Mustang GTs will be 460hp and do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, according to Ford. I get that the autos are faster, but I'd still buy the manual.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a10351073/2018-ford-mustang-gt-horsepower-acceleration-specs/

 

 

Also the Performance Pack will get the magnetic suspension out of the GT350s. Much goodness. 

damn. is that factory? and here i keep thinking 400hp out of a v8 was a lot.

1 hour ago, bcredeur97 said:

So so stupid that this story even exists 

 

http://www.katc.com/story/35963311/teenage-driver-livestreams-crash-that-killed-sister

it's even more shocking when this happens about 20-25 miles from my home. it's scary.

[vetali]

8 hours ago, wcreek said:

Any other reason that maybe a Turbo?

Avoid the 1.4 turbo. Exploding ringlands.

[Real_PhillBert]

7 minutes ago, terrytek said:

damn. is that factory? and here i keep thinking 400hp out of a v8 was a lot.

Yeah that's factory. Current Mustang GTs are 435hp, and current GT350s are 526hp. 

 

If you believe motortrend the new 2019 GT500 will be 680hp from the same 5L coyote with a supercharger.

[terrytek]

10 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Yeah that's factory. Current Mustang GTs are 435hp, and current GT350s are 526hp. 

 

If you believe motortrend the new 2019 GT500 will be 680hp from the same 5L coyote with a supercharger.

gt500? why wasn't it introduced with the current generation a couple years back? but is this basically the camaro zl1 direct competitor i guess? because power figures are kinda similar.

[Real_PhillBert]

3 minutes ago, terrytek said:

gt500? why wasn't it introduced with the current generation a couple years back? but is this basically the camaro zl1 direct competitor i guess? because power figures are kinda similar.

The same reason Dodge didn't introduce the Demon alongside the Hellcat; it doesn't make a lot of sense from a marketing perspective, and they want to improve on the current halo car.

 

Sounds like a competitor to the ZL1 and Hellcat to me.  

[terrytek]

1 minute ago, Real_PhillBert said:

The same reason Dodge didn't introduce the Demon alongside the Hellcat; it doesn't make a lot of sense from a marketing perspective, and they want to improve on the current halo car.

 

Sounds like a competitor to the ZL1 and Hellcat to me.  

well it's less directly a hellcat competitor because unlike the hellcat, the camaro and mustang can actually handle corners (sorry if i offend anyone), so the camaro and mustang to me are the most direct competitors, but i wonder which one out of the three is the best.

[vetali]

4 minutes ago, terrytek said:

well it's less directly a hellcat competitor because unlike the hellcat, the camaro and mustang can actually handle corners (sorry if i offend anyone), so the camaro and mustang to me are the most direct competitors, but i wonder which one out of the three is the best.

As for around a track? I'd put my money on the ZL1

[terrytek]

3 minutes ago, vetali said:

As for around a track? I'd put my money on the ZL1

well if the gt500 also has magnetic suspension, it could be pretty even. but i'm assuming the gt500 might be lighter, so my money's on the gt500.

[TVwazhere]

15 minutes ago, terrytek said:

well it's less directly a hellcat competitor because unlike the hellcat, the camaro and mustang can actually handle corners (sorry if i offend anyone), so the camaro and mustang to me are the most direct competitors, but i wonder which one out of the three is the best.

7 minutes ago, vetali said:

As for around a track? I'd put my money on the ZL1

motor tend (road track?) did a side by side (I think these were the base models or the hellcat/Zl1/GT500 models I'm not sure) but I think the GT500 edged out the ZL1 overall and the hellcat was sluggish because it couldnt handle the turns as well. Again, this was back in 2015 maybe, much has probably changed since then.

 

[handymanshandle]

39 minutes ago, terrytek said:

what about a mazda 6? better looking car, and probably more loaded for the price than those two, and potentially more reliable. oh, and a much more fun fwd car than those two..

no love for the korean cars

Well it seems the value goes down as quickly as a Kia, so a 2015 Mazda6 costs about the same as a 2015 Optima.

But... 나의 아름다운 한국 자동차

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나의 아름다운 한국 자동차 should roughly mean My beautiful Korean cars. I've spent maybe 20 minutes learning the Korean alphabet because I got bored one day and now I love the concept.

 

[TVwazhere]

1 minute ago, wcreek said:

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나의 아름다운 한국 자동차 should roughly mean My beautiful Korean cars. I've spent maybe 20 minutes learning the Korean alphabet because I got bored one day and now I love the concept.

 

You have waaaay too much time on your hands if you can learn a language because youre bored lol. At least you put it to good use

[terrytek]

1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

motor tend did a side by side (I think these were the base models or the hellcat/Zl1/GT500 models I'm not sure) but I think the GT500 edged out the ZL1 overall and the hellcat was sluggish because it couldnt handle the turns as well. Again, this was back in 2015 maybe, much has probably changed since then.

 

you mean gt350? because gt500 wasn't introduced with the new generation. and the gt350 couldn't exactly directly compete with the others since it was still a naturally aspirated motor, albeit a high revving one.

 

2 minutes ago, wcreek said:

no love for the korean cars

Well it seems the value goes down as quickly as a Kia, so a 2015 Mazda6 costs about the same as a 2015 Optima.

But... 나의 아름다운 한국 자동차

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나의 아름다운 한국 자동차 should roughly mean My beautiful Korean cars. I've spent maybe 20 minutes learning the Korean alphabet because I got bored one day and now I love the concept.

 

but i think you're getting more for the money. skyactiv motor, so better mpgs, and usually interior quality is better and i think more refined than the optima. 

[handymanshandle]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

You have waaaay too much time on your hands if you can learn a language because youre bored lol. At least you put it to good use

I spent 4 years in school learning French. I wasn't really in the mood to play video games and some reason I thought it would be neat to see how hard learning Korean would be and then I had seen a video that talked about it's alphabet and some of it's history and why it's possibly the best and easiest language in the world because of that.

[RatedBlam]

Oh yeah, I saw a Lancia Delta last weekend. One of the boxy ones.

Too bad it had some really ugly stripes on it.

 

[TVwazhere]

Just now, terrytek said:

you mean gt350? because gt500 wasn't introduced with the new generation. and the gt350 couldn't exactly directly compete with the others since it was still a naturally aspirated motor, albeit a high revving one.

Maybe it was the base models then. I only remember the mustang edged out the camero and the charger was nowhere to be found at the finish line

[handymanshandle]

Just now, terrytek said:

but i think you're getting more for the money. skyactiv motor, so better mpgs, and usually interior quality is better and i think more refined than the optima. 

I do contend it seems that while the 2015 Optima I think was using decent quality materials to begin with the Mazda might have better materials. I could definitely get a better infotainment screen (Optima LX/EX vs Mazda6 i Touring/i Sport)