Nvidia asks retailers to stop selling gpu's to miners

[DoctorWho1975]

You have to think AMD is not pleased.... Zen refresh release in the spring and no video cards on the market leads to flat sales. If only AMD had a company that could produce graphics cards....

[mondestine]

2 hours ago, Canada EH said:

yeah but you could just say, I am putting these in SLI

Or the customer just brings along his friends and family.

Back in September, Microcenter tried a system where they would let you buy up to two cards at the normal price, but once you went to three cards or more, the price would skyrocket to over ten thousand USD. I have no idea if their little experiment even worked, but clearly they were trying to find a way to thwart miners while still accommodating those who wanted to buy cards for SLI/Crossfire. 

[Orangeator]

27 minutes ago, mondestine said:

Back in September, Microcenter tried a system where they would let you buy up to two cards at the normal price, but once you went to three cards or more, the price would skyrocket to over ten thousand USD. I have no idea if their little experiment even worked, but clearly they were trying to find a way to thwart miners while still accommodating those who wanted to buy cards for SLI/Crossfire. 

Damn that's hardcore Microcenter. Respect.

[Rune]

55 minutes ago, mondestine said:

Back in September, Microcenter tried a system where they would let you buy up to two cards at the normal price, but once you went to three cards or more, the price would skyrocket to over ten thousand USD. I have no idea if their little experiment even worked, but clearly they were trying to find a way to thwart miners while still accommodating those who wanted to buy cards for SLI/Crossfire. 

It did. And yesterday we tweaked the formula again so they can't send in multiple people with different addresses to obtain cards. Can't reveal details, but it worked flawlessly on day one
Edit: At least, my store did. Can't speak for all locations.

[AlTech]

4 hours ago, Canada EH said:

yeah but you could just say, I am putting these in SLI

Or the customer just brings along his friends and family.

 

Again it is FAKE NEWS!

Nvidia no longer officially supports SLI.

 

Therefore selling more than 1 GPU per person is a bad idea.

[DLex]

43 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nvidia no longer officially supports SLI.

 

Therefore selling more than 1 GPU per person is a bad idea.

Umm, pretty sure that was only 3 and 4 way SLI. 2 way SLI is definitely still supported (and advertised).

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/sli/supported-gpus

[Canada EH]

You could even say you are a video graphics company weddings blah blah blah blah, $5 in business cards.

[MyName13]

Yeah, Nvidia doesn't care about all that $$$

[Kamina]

You can't prevent miners from buying GPUs if they don't reveal themselves as miners.

[porina]

Wont make a bit of different to small scale miners (say, fewer than 50 GPUs). Even if they restrict to two cards, just buy from multiple retailers, and get your friends to help if needed.

 

The bigger problem for miners is exactly the same problem for gamers - there aren't enough cards to be sold in the first place.

[Ryujin2003]

8 hours ago, Canada EH said:

How do they know who is a miner and who is not a miner?

It is just FAKE NEWS!

Someone is going to get in trouble refusing to so cards to minors....

[Misanthrope]

They're likely responding to pressure from the publishers as I was calling out earlier. But I agree it's token at best, just them dragging their feat to appease the game publishers but since this will fix fuck-all they'll have to get ready to something a bit more effective and creative but you might need to wait a handful of weeks for that.

[samcool55]

Suuuure... We only need 1 shop to ignore this rule to start a chain reaction. I mean if you are stupid enough to enforce this rule and see competitors selling the exact same thing as you for a much bigger profit, who is going to be so stupid to stick with the rule? It's the business world, not a charity.

 

There are shops out there enforcing the max 2 cards per person rule, but stuff is still out-of-stock basically everywhere so even tho the idea of the rule is nice. It doesn't seem to do much...

[mariushm]

8 hours ago, sarfraz said:

This news is good for gamers. 

 

Boris Böhles – NVIDIA ( Translated from German to English )
“For NVIDIA, gamers come first. All activities related to our GeForce product line are targeted at our main audience. To ensure that GeForce gamers continue to have good GeForce graphics card availability in the current situation, we recommend that our trading partners make the appropriate arrangements to meet gamers’ needs as usual. “

 

Complete article:- https://wccftech.com/nvidia-instructs-retailers-stop-selling-miners-sell-gamers/

 

The key word is recommend

 

It's not required , it's not insist , it's not force ... it's basically "pretty please sell to gamers first" ... so basically nothing, just a PR message.

[AresKrieger]

Well as many above have stated this won't actually do anything as you can't determine who is a miner and who isn't, however to those that think Nvidia wants miner sales long term, absolutely not miners are notorious for returns and flooding the market with used parts, essentially selling to miners sacrifices future profits, increases warranty claim potential, and ultimately isn't worth the extra short term gains.

 

To those who actually want to end mining, bad mouth crypto currencies, spread lies of an impending crash etc, the only way to end mining is to kill its profit potential.

[yoshiii]

9 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Yeah that didn't exactly work the last time retailers tried it.

Did any one read the whole article?

[yoshiii]

9 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Yeah that didn't exactly work the last time retailers tried it.

Now Micro center will only allow you to buy one and I think they are keeping track of who buys one.

[Drak3]

Just now, yoshiii said:

Did any one read the whole article?

Does it really matter? Retailers can't realistically differentiate a gamer, a miner, and someone that wants an expensive coaster, nor do they care.

Nvidia knows this. They know that nothing will change, except the opinions of stupid people.

1 minute ago, yoshiii said:

Now Micro center will only allow you to buy one and I think they are keeping track of who buys one.

Unless they're doing extremely illegal and invasive shit, it's easy to work around it: because what Microcenter is doing, many retailers have been doing, only difference is that MC is only letting one out at a time, not two.

[yoshiii]

9 hours ago, Rune said:

Not from us, I think. at the very least, not in a way they will like It's a bit convoluted how things are set up...but it's working quite well. Oh well.

Micro Center?

[yoshiii]

6 hours ago, Rune said:

It did. And yesterday we tweaked the formula again so they can't send in multiple people with different addresses to obtain cards. Can't reveal details, but it worked flawlessly on day one
Edit: At least, my store did. Can't speak for all locations.

Now Micro Center needs to lower the prices back down to what it was three days ago.

[yoshiii]

15 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Does it really matter? Retailers can't realistically differentiate a gamer, a miner, and someone that wants an expensive coaster, nor do they care.

Nvidia knows this. They know that nothing will change, except the opinions of stupid people.

Unless they're doing extremely illegal and invasive shit, it's easy to work around it: because what Microcenter is doing, many retailers have been doing, only difference is that MC is only letting one out at a time, not two.

Saw yesterday, they refused a sell to a guy who tried to buy a card.

[Armakar]

10 hours ago, Hiya! said:

The problem is.

How did u knew which are miner and which are not?

if they buy 20 rx580's it's pretty clear

[Hiya!]

1 minute ago, Armakar said:

if they buy 20 rx580's it's pretty clear

1.They could buy from another store

2.They can bring their friends

3.Use amazon or newegg which wont have that limitation

[Orangeator]

2 hours ago, Armakar said:

if they buy 20 rx580's it's pretty clear

Yeah... Few individual people have uses for 20 RX 580's. Unless they are not gaming on them. And if the intention from the suppliers is to sell them to gamer's, well then...

[Orangeator]

2 hours ago, Hiya! said:

1.They could buy from another store

2.They can bring their friends

3.Use amazon or newegg which wont have that limitation

The point is MicroCenter is showing that they are strictly for the gamers. Not the miners. It's actually doing something about the problem rather then getting rich off it.