Apple has opened every version of macOS and iOS to the public

[DrMacintosh]

https://opensource.apple.com/ 

https://news.hitb.org/content/macos-and-ios-kernel-source-code-now-available-github

 

As seen here Apple has released all the kernels of iOS and macOS. This is probably only a good thing, especially for the jailbreak community (although I guess that is bad for Apple). A recent jailbreak has not been out for a long time. Having easier access may influence more teams to find vulnerabilities in the code. This also has the capacity to turn in the favor of Apple if more security firms try to take a stab at iOS and report or "expose" any exploits or vulnerabilities. 

 

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 By giving access to the kernel code, Apple has made it easier for developers to understand how devices and upper layers of software work with the kernel. It is not yet clear how much more the developers can benefit from this release, but it could be one of many steps taken by the company to attract developers." 

As stated, this could or could not affect the company in any meaningful way, only time will tell!

[ARikozuM]

Hopefully this'll mean that newer jailbreaks and apps will be available for Apple devices.

[Guest]

Huh, this is surprising news to end the night

[iamdarkyoshi]

...I'm legitimately speechless. +1 for Apple!

[Droidbot]

Man maybe now just a jailbreak + tweak to bring the iPhone X to parity with most Android phones in terms of features and customisability

[Drak3]

Congratulations to Apple, for republishing the source code of an already largely open source Kernal that they adopted and adapted, and already made open a long time ago.

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

Hopefully this'll mean that newer jailbreaks and apps will be available for Apple devices.

The only thing Apple really did was publish them in places that are more likely to get it noticed.

 

1 minute ago, tjcater said:

Huh, this is surprising news to end the night

If you're familiar with Apple's development of OS X's kernal, it really isn't. As a matter of fact, Darwin is OS X stripped of all closed source softwares.

[Guest]

Just now, VegetableStu said:

wait, how would one install older versions of open-source iOS on phones that used to run them when they're now not being signed by apple?

The kernel, not the os, is open source now

[Guest]

Just now, VegetableStu said:

oh. sorry, kinda clueless about that ,_,

Spoiler

 

Just think of the kernel as the core of the OS, but not the entire OS.

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, tjcater said:

The kernel, not the os, is open source now

The kernal has been open source since Apple created OS X. They also created Darwin, which is literally OS X stripped of any closed source components, with the exception of some drivers. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

The kernal has been open source since Apple created OS X. They also created Darwin, which is literally OS X stripped of any closed source components, with the exception of some drivers. 

Maybe I should just say that the article is about the kernel, not the entire OS from now on

[Drak3]

Just now, tjcater said:

Maybe I should just say that the article is about the kernel, not the entire OS from now on

Except XNU, OS X and Darwin's kernal, is already open source. Most of OS X is, and has been. Darwin is OS X stripped of all proprietary softwares, like Finder and the App Store, for the purpose of development, modification, and as an OS X alternative where the other favorable solution it to Hackintosh.

[captain_to_fire]

40 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

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More public inspection of the code, much better for Apple to patch vulnerabilities and add more hardened security features, hence making iOS much more difficult to jailbreak. So yeah, Apple did it to work against the jailbreaking community. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Except XNU, OS X and Darwin's kernal, is already open source. Most of OS X is, and has been. Darwin is OS X stripped of all proprietary softwares, like Finder and the App Store, for the purpose of development, modification, and as an OS X alternative where the other favorable solution it to Hackintosh.

I understand that, I'm just talking about how I should have answered the question earlier. Like saying the article is about the kernel instead of me saying that the kernel is now open source

[SansVarnic]

If Apple had done this 30 years ago ...

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, SansVarnic said:

If Apple had done this 30 years ago ...

OSX and iOS didn't exist 30 years ago...

[captain_to_fire]

2 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

If Apple had done this 30 years ago ...

Better late than never. Unlike Microsoft who won't even be bothered to put their rendering engine open source which is why Edge sucks. Apple on the other hand has open sourced WebKit rendering engine in 2005 and it worked for them very well.

Edited October 1, 2017 by hey_yo_

[vanished]

This is genuinely shocking on so many levels.  First of all, it's the first they've genuinely surprised me in years.  It also makes the mind reel from the amazing possibilities this brings about.  Legit versions of Mac OS (or something like it) running on non-apple hardware, non-apple phones running ios (or something like it), perhaps heavily modified to remove all the dumbing down, etc.  Time will tell where this goes but it can only be an excellent thing for the world.  And it probably won't hurt Apple either.

 

That is, if this really is everything.  Do we have confirmation that it's the entire OS or just bits of it?

Edited October 1, 2017 by Ryan_Vickers

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Do we have confirmation that it's the entire OS or just bits of it?

its just the Kernel. 

[captain_to_fire]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Legit versions of Mac OS (or something like it) running on non-apple hardware

Oh no! I better not see PC OEMs polluting mac OS by preinstalling proprietary OEM crapware like how they bastardize Windows PCs just to keep the price low. I'd rather pay a little more for a more cleaner, faster machine that is free from popups and preinstalled bloatware that hogs system resources.

[SansVarnic]

19 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

OSX and iOS didn't exist 30 years ago...

No Duh  

 

Apparently either you not old enough to understand my reply or it went over your head ... /s

That or your being facetious. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[vanished]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

its just the Kernel. 

Oh, well, that's still nice but not nearly on the scope of what I was thinking... damn, getting me all hyped up!  

[79wjd]

18 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

Better late than never. Unlike Microsoft who won't even be bothered to put their rendering engine open source which is why Edge sucks. Apple on the other hand has open sourced WebKit rendering engine in 2005 and it worked for them very well.

Everyone would just point and laugh at Microsoft if they made their code public. I've heard quite a few things about the state of the Windows' code:

 

Just now, hey_yo_ said:

Oh no! I better not see PC OEMs polluting mac OS by preinstalling proprietary OEM crapware like how they bastardize Windows PCs just to keep the price low. I'd rather pay a little more for a more cleaner, faster machine that is free from popups and preinstalled bloatware that hogs system resources.

Massive lawsuits would likely ensue. I can see it being available on a user-level, but not from a company that's profiting off of it. 

[vanished]

Just now, hey_yo_ said:

Oh no! I better not see PC OEMs polluting mac OS by preinstalling proprietary OEM crapware like how they bastardize Windows PCs just to keep the price low. I'd rather pay a little more for a more cleaner, faster machine that is free from popups and preinstalled bloatware that hogs system resources.

Well, for one thing, as with Windows, you can (and should) just reinstall your own fresh copy when you get it so doesn't really matter at all, and second, I doubt it would be used like that, it would probably be more like Linux is now - an enthusiast thing not really available from stores.  Also, apparently I over reacted and this isn't going to be what I thought  

[Drak3]

Just now, SansVarnic said:

Apparently either you not old enough to understand my reply or it went over your head ... 

That or your being facetious. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll take 'Sarcastic assholes' for $200.

 

But on a serious note, XNU, OS X's kernal, has been open source since OS X came out for desktops. Darwin was created by Apple, and is OS X stripped of all closed source components outside of a few drivers.

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Oh, well, that's still nice but not nearly on the scope of what I was thinking... damn, getting me all hyped up!  

See one line up.

[Shreyas1]

so they added compatibility or something?