Anandtech: Chuwi LapBook 12.3 Reviewed. Perfect notebook for web browsing, Youtube, and Netflix?

[themctipers]

Just now, DocSwag said:

But why exactly .

 

The screen is good... so it's good. 

 

Obviously its not as good as the surface pro display as it's not color calibrated.

 

It doesn't seem like it has any real issues tbh.

 

fuck i am using the word concerned wrong. 

 

ignore  

[DocSwag]

Just now, themctipers said:

fuck i am using the word concerned wrong. 

 

ignore  

What were you trying to say  

[themctipers]

Just now, DocSwag said:

What were you trying to say  

opposite of concerned. 

 

idk it worked in my head. 

[Zodiark1593]

6 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

But why exactly .

 

The screen is good... so it's good. 

 

Obviously its not as good as the surface pro display as it's not color calibrated.

 

It doesn't seem like it has any real issues tbh.

 

The Atom class CPU would probably see me avoid recommending this laptop for most basic users as said users are the least likely to be able to troubleshoot performances issues. I'd rather them get an i5 that can brute through most adware and bloat and still deliver an acceptable experience, than something they have to keep carefully optimized to run well.

[Trixanity]

I wonder when we'll see UFS storage on these cheap laptops instead of eMMC. Guess too expensive and lack of support in the chipset.

 

That and dumping Atom would seriously raise the bar on performance for budget laptops.

[DocSwag]

9 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

The Atom class CPU would probably see me avoid recommending this laptop for most basic users as said users are the least likely to be able to troubleshoot performances issues. I'd rather them get an i5 that can brute through most adware and bloat and still deliver an acceptable experience, than something they have to keep carefully optimized to run well.

Are there any core based laptops in this price range though? Because afaik if there are any, everything else (display for example) would be wayyyy worse than this one.

 

Plus if you are just worried about ads, I would say download ublock origin and just be done with it.

[PlayStation 2]

I have a laptop from late 2012 that runs quite hot playing a DVD with deinterlacing applied.

I'd imagine this could power through it fairly well. All I'd require from a laptop is if it can play YouTube videos at 720p60 without choking.

[Zodiark1593]

11 hours ago, themctipers said:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-Duo-T2350-vs-Intel-Atom-Z3770/m3830vsm5592

I just threw a Sunspider benchmark at my Atom tablet out of boredom. In Edge, it scored about 560ms. That was quite surprising as the best score I've squeezed out of my phone with an optimized browser was somewhere in the mid-300s range.

 

Dual issue, out of order. Seems like Atom is built a bit like the Cortex A73.

[DocSwag]

13 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

I just threw a Sunspider benchmark at my Atom tablet out of boredom. In Edge, it scored about 560ms. That was quite surprising as the best score I've squeezed out of my phone with an optimized browser was somewhere in the mid-300s range.

 

Dual issue, out of order. Seems like Atom is built a bit like the Cortex A73.

I thought atom CPUs were all in order not OoO?

[Trixanity]

1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

I thought atom CPUs were all in order not OoO?

They used to be but they changed that in like 2013 or so. All current Atom models are OoO as far as I know.

 

Edit: Yes, the Silvermont-based Atoms (22 nm) was the first Atom to utilize OoOE. It was released in late 2013 according to Wiki

[ScratchCat]

13 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Not sure that's something to be proud of.

 

I'm going the opposite direction in playing Skyrim on a 2 GB, 1.8 GHz Atom Z3770F, a chip that typically has no business being near Skyrim. Hence squeezing my hardware for all it's worth.

 

A basic user would be frustrated with an Atom system. As for me, I force the thing to submit to my will.

 

What frame rate did you achieve?

Must have been swapping like crazy

[Mira Yurizaki]

A sign of progress isn't how good the high end is, but how good the low end is.

[JAKEBAB]

14 hours ago, themctipers said:

if a m3 can do 1080p 60fps youtube a quad core celeron can. 

Isn't an m3 more powerful than a celeron?

[themctipers]

11 minutes ago, JAKEBAB said:

Isn't an m3 more powerful than a celeron?

probably. Eh maybe. It has a sustained boost of ~2.2GHz. 

[JAKEBAB]

Just now, themctipers said:

probably. Eh maybe. It has a sustained boost of ~2.2GHz. 

Atom cores vs Core series cores doesn't that alone give you the answer or?

[themctipers]

4 minutes ago, JAKEBAB said:

Atom cores vs Core series cores doesn't that alone give you the answer or?

but it's surprisingly powerful 

 

but the iGPU is complete shit. GTX 8800 is better probably. 

[RotoCoreOne]

sort of been seeing a trend of chinese alternatives taking over or becoming very competitive.

[Zodiark1593]

2 hours ago, DocSwag said:

I thought atom CPUs were all in order not OoO?

As of Silvermont, Atom went OoO. Its still a 2-wide design (without HT) though.

 

21 minutes ago, themctipers said:

but it's surprisingly powerful 

 

but the iGPU is complete shit. GTX 8800 is better probably. 

Should still be faster than an Intel HD 4000, which Apple used to drive a similar resolution display.

[Mira Yurizaki]

8 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

As of Silvermont, Atom went OoO. Its still a 2-wide design (without HT) though.

 

Should still be faster than an Intel HD 4000, which Apple used to drive a similar resolution display.

I was able to run Half-Life 2 at 720p (or maybe it was 1024x640) on medium with a Silvermont. It ran at about 30FPS though. Reminded me of when I was playing it on my GeForce FX 5600. Though that was with the original engine.

 

However at the end of the day, I believe it's stupid easy to render the desktop for most modern GPUs. Probably not saying much, but my GTX 1080 comfortably idles at 135 MHz even if I have both my 1440p (which is running at 144Hz mind you) and 4K monitor on.

[Sniperfox47]

Looks like a really nice little machine, but Windows 10 on an Atom based CPU...? Why would you do that to yourself?

 

4 hours ago, Trixanity said:

I wonder when we'll see UFS storage on these cheap laptops instead of eMMC. Guess too expensive and lack of support in the chipset.

 

That and dumping Atom would seriously raise the bar on performance for budget laptops.

eMMC is used because of pricing.

 

While the Atom based chips don't support UFS on their HSIO lanes like they do for eMMC, they *do* support PCIe over those lanes, so for more premium devices we could see NVMe drives (although at that point, you'd probably also be moving to a Core Series CPU)

[Ithanul]

Hmmmm, may get this for my Dad since he only uses web mail and browses on the old lappy.

Just have to get him an external CD/DVD reader.

 

First thing though, I wipe the Windows off and smack a nice light Linux distro.

[themctipers]

1 hour ago, Zodiark1593 said:

As of Silvermont, Atom went OoO. Its still a 2-wide design (without HT) though.

 

Should still be faster than an Intel HD 4000, which Apple used to drive a similar resolution display.

Windows rendered animations at 480p blocky shit. 

[Jito463]

On 9/6/2017 at 9:18 PM, Zodiark1593 said:

And I'm fairly certain that Core Duo gas faster single thread than my Atom.

Well, I gas faster than anyone I know.

 

[Zodiark1593]

57 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

Well, I gas faster than anyone I know.

 

Smartphone typing FML.

[2FA]

On 9/6/2017 at 9:52 PM, themctipers said:

if a m3 can do 1080p 60fps youtube a quad core celeron can. 

I'm like 99% certain that an M3 is more powerful than that Celeron.