Size of LMG server room?

[Geran]

Hello,

 

I was wondering if any one knows the size of LMG's server room that Linus shows in his videos?

 

Regards,

G

[manikyath]

it's rougly tiny by tiny by tiny.

 

jokes aside, there's some.. "indicatiosns" that can give you rough dimensions:

- the "width" of the room is the width of two server racks side by side

- the height of the room is whatever height they have for the bottom floor

- the depth.. is probably outlined best in one of their moving vlogs:

width of the keyboard tray thing, plus the width of the door on the rack (so, width of the rack) plus depth of the rack, plus whatever is behind the rack.

 

i think they changed things later on, to put the huge motherthunking UPS in:

 

[Enderman]

About 2-4 square meters.

Including the space taken up by the door that opens inwards, and it has active air conditioning.

[Eaglerino]

I remember their architecture for that indoor building being on livestream, and after it was all done I couldn't help but think I'm sure as heck not hiring that guy for anything requiring a decent amount of space. Why their server room is so tiny but that room above it next to Linus' office with (as far as I can tell) two workers is ridiculously huge I'll never know

[LinusTech]

42 minutes ago, Eaglerino said:

I remember their architecture for that indoor building being on livestream, and after it was all done I couldn't help but think I'm sure as heck not hiring that guy for anything requiring a decent amount of space. Why their server room is so tiny but that room above it next to Linus' office with (as far as I can tell) two workers is ridiculously huge I'll never know

Because the room above it is the stairs

 

The server room sits under a wider-than-normal staircase up to the top level. The big room upstairs has 3 people in it now, and in the future the plan is to add more. 

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

Because the room above it is the stairs

 

The server room sits under a wider-than-normal staircase up to the top level. The big room upstairs has 3 people in it now, and in the future the plan is to add more. 

I remeber a problem with cooling on the server room popping up at some point, is that solved now?

[LinusTech]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

I remeber a problem with cooling on the server room popping up at some point, is that solved now?

Yes, we were hoping to get away with ambient cooling in there, but summers have been.. hotter than usual in Vancouver and once we added the big UPS it became unmanageable. We have a dedicated AC unit for that room now.

 

Part of the plan for the future is also to line the room with acoustic material so that we can get rid of some of the background hum in our videos. Baby steps..

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, LinusTech said:

Yes, we were hoping to get away with ambient cooling in there, but summers have been.. hotter than usual in Vancouver and once we added the big UPS it became unmanageable. We have a dedicated AC unit for that room now.

 

Part of the plan for the future is also to line the room with acoustic material so that we can get rid of some of the background hum in our videos. Baby steps..

If that was me, I would try to ensure some air flow on the server room by mounting a huge fan in exhaust mode to the wall. I've a feeling an AC unit would have to be chosen carefully because we're talking about a room that dissipates upwards of 1KW 24/7. Either way I'm eager to hear what you do with it, hopefully in video form.

[Ezio Auditore]

4 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

Yes, we were hoping to get away with ambient cooling in there, but summers have been.. hotter than usual in Vancouver and once we added the big UPS it became unmanageable. We have a dedicated AC unit for that room now.

 

Part of the plan for the future is also to line the room with acoustic material so that we can get rid of some of the background hum in our videos. Baby steps..

Was keeping the door open a solution for ventilation than using a dedicated AC unit?

[Energycore]

4 minutes ago, Ezio Auditore said:

Was keeping the door open a solution for ventilation than using a dedicated AC unit?

Well, just like a computer case is a compromise between sound dampening and cooling performance, keeping the server room closed means worse cooling for sure, but also less noticeable hum on videos from the high speed fans. Good cases can dampen sound while still keeping temps low, and similarly good cooling solutions for a server room keep both noise and temperature down. That's what I'm hoping to see out of the nekt Linus server room update.

[Tieox]

But can Taran hang like a bat in the server room? (p.s amazed they got all that in there really and kept it cool!)

[Trevor87]

I remember those server videos.

Yea AC will defiantly help with the cooling.

Have considered may be getting a wall mounted sever case or cases for the server room Linus ? 

Also you could probable use server case fans they can run off of normal power for the the sever case to help with the cooling.  

[manikyath]

8 hours ago, Trevor87 said:

I remember those server videos.

Yea AC will defiantly help with the cooling.

Have considered may be getting a wall mounted sever case or cases for the server room Linus ? 

Also you could probable use server case fans they can run off of normal power for the the sever case to help with the cooling.  

rackmount gear is essentially designed to "on its own" handle intaking fresh air on one side, and exhausting on the other, beyond that all that's left is managing the temperature in the room. at the scale linus is at just putting an AC in the room is plenty, in datacenters they usually have "hot" and "cold" aisles between racks, the cold ones being with the familiar tiles with holes in them. when you're talking 2x 100kW (redundancy ) in a small room, heat management is a necessity. having one "barely full" rack is still "child's play" in comparison . to give you an idea of what *actual* datacenters deal with in terms of "wattage per rack", some of the big enterprise core switches that take up like half a rack of space require 6 seperate 32A sockets, and when you stand behind one that's on full load, you're in a human sized hairdryer.

[Eaglerino]

20 hours ago, LinusTech said:

Because the room above it is the stairs

 

The server room sits under a wider-than-normal staircase up to the top level. The big room upstairs has 3 people in it now, and in the future the plan is to add more. 

Oh great me bashing your architect (I still stand by my statements) is my first reply by ye Linus

[Geran]

Based on everything stated here, I am going to assume that the room is around 4-5' wide and 8-10' deep with high ceilings.

 

That's a good starting point for me to design my room in Sketchup and I believe a max of 50sqft is sufficient for what I have in mind.

[Geran]

@LinusTechIs there going to be an update to the server room video in the near future? I would like to see the differences from before to now.

[LinusTech]

3 hours ago, Geran said:

@LinusTechIs there going to be an update to the server room video in the near future? I would like to see the differences from before to now.

Yes. I am shooting all these updates for 2 days straight on the 11th and 12th of Feb.

 

Plan is as follows: 

 

- cleaning 

- cable management

- some server consolidation

- network switches moving to the back

- upgrading wifi to new Ubiquiti gear

- making room for Petabyte storage cluster

- acoustic dampening

- dust filtration

 

Probably this will end up being a 2 part video in the "moving vlog" style.

[glunday]

6 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

Yes. I am shooting all these updates for 2 days straight on the 11th and 12th of Feb.

 

Plan is as follows: 

 

- cleaning 

- cable management

- some server consolidation

- network switches moving to the back

- upgrading wifi to new Ubiquiti gear

- making room for Petabyte storage cluster

- acoustic dampening

- dust filtration

 

Probably this will end up being a 2 part video in the "moving vlog" style.

have to say some of my favorite content from yall is the moving vlog style stuff so that will be a treat if you decide to keep with that route.

[kerradeph]

9 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

Yes. I am shooting all these updates for 2 days straight on the 11th and 12th of Feb.

 

Plan is as follows: 

 

- cleaning 

- cable management

- some server consolidation

- network switches moving to the back

- upgrading wifi to new Ubiquiti gear

- making room for Petabyte storage cluster

- acoustic dampening

- dust filtration

 

Probably this will end up being a 2 part video in the "moving vlog" style.

Anything planned for the publicly displayed security flaw in the door?

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

- upgrading wifi to new Ubiquiti gear

Oh the wave 2 AP's?

 

Also have you considered colocation/private cloud with MPLS connection?

[LinusTech]

15 minutes ago, kerradeph said:

Anything planned for the publicly displayed security flaw in the door?

The room has two doors. I didn't have the key for the inner door beause I never lock that one. It's mostly for noise reduction. The outer door is MUCH more secure anyway (and always locked)

[LinusTech]

4 minutes ago, Windspeed36 said:

Oh the wave 2 AP's?

 

Also have you considered colocation/private cloud with MPLS connection?

Yeah the wave 2s.

 

As for MPLS, no I haven't looked into it at all. Our offsite backup server is located in our ISP's datacenter so they're handling the network config stuff on their side.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

Yeah the wave 2s.

 

As for MPLS, no I haven't looked into it at all. Our offsite backup server is located in our ISP's datacenter so they're handling the network config stuff on their side.

Just to elaborate, our sister company runs essentailly a private cloud with everyone working on VMWare Horizon VDI's. All of that infastructure runs in an N+1 tier 3 DC. There's an MPLS fibre connection run from the DC to the client site meaning that it appears as if it's the same LAN. You could in theory move your entire infastructure into your own private cloud and have have people remote into their workspaces. Significantly more secure when done properly, both physically and virtually.

[Syntaxvgm]

1 hour ago, LinusTech said:

 

 

- dust filtration

 

a good stop-gap measure is to get a box fan and tape a 20-20 furnace filter to it. They're made for each other, and you can get various levels of filtration. 

[spellmanuk]

are you planning a heist or something?