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GTX 1080 will be limited to 2 way SLI

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14 hours ago, 8uhbbhu8 said:

Just 1 more reason to wait for Polaris before deciding what to upgrade to. :) 

Polaris has been confirmed to be targeting the mid to upper mid range. What you mean is wait for vega due out later this year ☺️

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 if you do use the new SLI bridge along with two 1080 cards, then it gives more performance than 2-way SLI did in the past

Does this mean they will be using another technology than alternate frame rendering for sli support ?

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This is a shame... but mainly for the upper 5% of us enthusiasts. Doesn't effectively matter to many people.

 

However, it does matter to a lot of us indirectly, because now there will be less ridiculous huge SLI videos for us to watch? Those were cool.

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According to jay it's completely incorrect as well

 

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hm weird, if this is considered an high-end enthusiast product, they could expect that some people would want to do 3-way sli configs

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ok, so if there are only 2 way SLI bridges, then will there be a 1090?!!!! because that would make the most sense atm

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18 hours ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Likely because they are just using both sli bridges for 2 way and calling it new and high bandwidth...

Which is actually a really good move for us customers.

Look, NVidia will most likely make less profit now, because they can't sell three or four cards per PC anymore.
The customers gain a better user experience and can potentially safe some money, if SLI scales better with the new SLI bridge.

I think that's great. :)

 

 

 

 

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Couldn't you still have 3 or 4 GPU systems for certain games/applications using an API like DX12 that allows multi-GPU usage independent of SLI?

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On 5/11/2016 at 2:28 PM, Maslofski said:

120Hz 4K

doesnt exist

On 5/11/2016 at 2:29 PM, Bajantechnician said:

8k, 144 fps?

also doesnt exist

 

by the time it does a single GPU will perform well enough to handle it alone

 

On 5/11/2016 at 2:33 PM, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Nope, there are monitor setups that need more then 2 way SLI performance, like 3x 4k monitors.

ncix tested this and even though they got playable framerates the entire experience was shit

a stuttery mess because games or GPU drivers are not optimized to run at those resolutions

 

so no, even if you could get 300fps at triple 4k it would look horrible

multimonitor technology and game resolution support has to advance a lot more before anything over 4k becomes useful

by that time a single GPU will perform well enough for it

 

theres a reason why consumers are currently using only one CPU, and not 2 or 4

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9 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Yes, effectively doubled.

What does this do then? I didn't think this was a bottleneck before. Also what kinds of bandwidth can AMD achieve through the motherboard

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

What does this do then? I didn't think this was a bottleneck before. Also what kinds of bandwidth can AMD achieve through the motherboard

Because it used to be that messages in any direction were limited to 1GB/s in bandwidth. Now bear in mind GPU memory doesn't stack in SLI. Now that message bandwidth is 2GB/s, but the interface has changed such that messages can only flow in one direction at any given point in time.

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Just now, patrickjp93 said:

Because it used to be that messages in any direction were limited to 1GB/s in bandwidth. Now bear in mind GPU memory doesn't stack in SLI. Now that message bandwidth is 2GB/s, but the interface has changed such that messages can only flow in one direction at any given point in time.

Interesting. Do we know what for? Maybe VR SLI support in the future?

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Interesting. Do we know what for? Maybe VR SLI support in the future?

A stopgap until NVLink arrives for consumers (likely with Volta).

 

AMD can get up to 16GB/s if a single GPU is using a full 16x slot. That said, Nvidia partly uses that bandwidth too these days, but having a little extra is hardly a bad thing.

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If " then it gives more performance than 2-way SLI did in the past on previous series" Is true then I don't see a problem.

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9 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Does this mean they will be using another technology than alternate frame rendering for sli support ?

Rumor has it that it's split-frame.

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2 minutes ago, CUDA_Cores said:

for the epeen of course xD. Now people can't get that anymore because they are limited to 2-way SLI.

We'll just wait for the Dual-GPU Pascal Titan cards.

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1 hour ago, CUDA_Cores said:

for the epeen of course xD. Now people can't get that anymore because they are limited to 2-way SLI.

Jay just said in his live stream that the only correct portion about this is that Nvidia will only support it but they aren't limited to 2 way :P

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JayzTwoCents dissaproved the only x2 SLI theory during today's techtalk, though he did not elaborate on who was wrong or why.

Apparently, while only 2x is officially supported, 3x or 4x would/could still work.

We'll see in a future video, since he said he'll be making one about this exact topic.

 

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15 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Jay just said in his live stream that the only correct portion about this is that Nvidia will only support it but they aren't limited to 2 way :P

 

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On 5/11/2016 at 4:27 PM, Darth-Marius said:

still, what were you going to use 4 1080's for?

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8 hours ago, Enderman said:

ncix tested this and even though they got playable framerates the entire experience was shit

a stuttery mess because games or GPU drivers are not optimized to run at those resolutions

 

so no, even if you could get 300fps at triple 4k it would look horrible

multimonitor technology and game resolution support has to advance a lot more before anything over 4k becomes useful

by that time a single GPU will perform well enough for it

 

theres a reason why consumers are currently using only one CPU, and not 2 or 4

I'm playing at 4520x2560 at 120Hz, without much problems. It just takes some settings tweaking.

As for stuttering, so is the only time I remember seeing it, was when I had to use my stream pc to play games while doing maintenance on my main pc. Guess they should test 3x 4K with Gsync or Freesync next time.

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On 11/05/2016 at 10:22 PM, ALN118 said:

A member of the  EVGA Tech support confirmed that the 1080 will be limited to 2 way SLI in the EVGA Forum .

 

 

 

I don´t think this is a big problem because 3 or even 4 way SLI is not as popular as single or dual GPU (and maybe this will give us better SLI Support?).

Did any of you plan to go for 3 or even 4 way SLI?

 

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On 12 May 2016 at 3:23 AM, SamStrecker said:

No not really. Judging by how much they are hyping them up and benchmarks. Why even include 2 SLI fingers on the card when 2 way only involves 1 finger on each card. Maybe something changed?

 

On 12 May 2016 at 3:10 AM, GlassBomb said:

I do believe that it can do above 2-sli.

 

Why else would the card have two sli fingers to begin with?

 

I want to say that this rumor only came up because you probably only can do normal two card sli with this new sli bridge that you can get from nvidia. 

You now need both fingers for 2 way. 

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