Quantum Break's cutscenes require internet connection - Streamed video

[Samfisher]

Source : http://www.pcgamesn.com/quantum-break/quantum-breaks-live-action-cutscenes-will-require-an-internet-connection

 

 

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Quantum Break, Remedy's upcoming time warping shooter, will employ a blend of videogame cutscenes and live action TV show in an attempt to tell a story in a new, cross media way. As it turns out, though, these live action cutscenes won't be on the disc and will be at the mercy of your internet connection as they're streamed to your PC.

 

Holy freakin balls, this is some extreme DRM bullshit!  First all the fluff of being a MS Store exclusive, then all the nonsense with the MS Store game issues with v-sync and no executables, and now this.  Is Remedy just looking for ways to NOT succeed with the game??

 

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With branching paths and in-game decisions affecting how these episodes play out - there are apparently 40 different variations of the show - there just wouldn't have been enough room to get it all on-disc. 

Xbox One players will have the option of downloading episodes, but PC players won't be able to do the same. Hopefully you have a good internet connection, especially if you want to stream the episodes in 4K - a PC-exclusive option.

I call total BS on this... No space on the disc?  Get it on more fucking discs then... RIP everyone with an internet bandwidth cap, low bandwidth, high latency connection.  This is beyond Ubisoft level now.

[Nacho Marco Segui]

Won't be buying this game with my 600 kbps internet ;(

[8uhbbhu8]

Yeah.... One game I definitely am not going to be getting. Also who uses disks anymore lol? Just do what every other manufacturer is doing and make the whole damn thing downloadable. Pull a Blizzard and have it fucking download the first part so you can play the damn game as its loading! Anyone wanting to stream the  cut-scenes  at a res higher then 1080p is going to have a hell of a time with lag when their internet is less then 10Mbps...... Oh wait I only get 7....

[daniellearmouth]

What I fail to comprehend is that PC users can't download and store the video, and yet Xbox One users can.

 

HOW DOES THAT EVEN BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE?! Even if it is 4K, 1080P still looks good on a 4K display, and most people who are wanting this game have the hard drive space to store the video anyway, and if they don't, they can either get an extra hard drive or clear out some space on the drive.

[CyanideInsanity]

Well its a good thing pc gamers can't download it, who'd have room for 4k video?! Its not like any of us have the ability or room for additional storage devices or anything? And who wants to watch in anything but 4k amirite? Pff, we don't even need a 4k display to properly enjoy it anyway.

[Samfisher]

Just now, CyanideInsanity said:

Well its a good thing pc gamers can't download it, who'd have room for 4k video?! Its not like any of us have the ability or room for additional storage devices or anything? And who wants to watch in anything but 4k amirite? Pff, we don't even need a 4k display to properly enjoy it anyway.

Well, even 1080p videos aren't included, so you'd have to download and stream ALL of these videos cos not a single one is included in the game.

[CyanideInsanity]

Just now, Samfisher said:

Well, even 1080p videos aren't included, so you'd have to download and stream ALL of these videos cos not a single one is included in the game.

True, but still its fucking stupid that they can't be locally stored either way. Its fucking astounding how out of touch so many devs and publishers are with consumers...

[Trik'Stari]

Incoming boycott.

 

I know I for one, will not be purchasing this game. My internet connection sucks a big one, and this would just make the entire game unplayable.

[xAcid9]

I wont buy any game from M$ Store.

[CyanideInsanity]

1 minute ago, Trik'Stari said:

Incoming boycott.

 

I know I for one, will not be purchasing this game. My internet connection sucks a big one, and this would just make the entire game unplayable.

I had a somewhat positive outlook on it. Looking forward to it, but definitely waiting until release to see how it turned out but they can seriously go fuck themselves. I don't even have shit internet service either but screw this bs.

[Trik'Stari]

Just now, xAcid9 said:

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I wont buy any game from M$ Store.

Neither will I.

 

I can't wait to see the level of fail, and M$'s bumbling attempts to lie to us.

[Trik'Stari]

Just now, CyanideInsanity said:

I had a somewhat positive outlook on it. Looking forward to it, but definitely waiting until release to see how it turned out but they can seriously go fuck themselves. I don't even have shit internet service either but screw this bs.

Even with decent internet speeds, this will just increase loading times.

[Guest Kloaked]

Just when you think M$ sees the light, they somehow find a way to fuck things up.

[typographie]

I actually don't have as much of a problem with this as some do. Cutscenes are often a very large proportion of the size of a game install, and that's why we often still get blocky, low-fidelity 720p30 cutscenes that are so jarring when we're otherwise playing the game at 1080p60. If streaming them in gives us the option to have better cutscene fidelity, I actually don't mind this. Arbitrary online requirements for single player components aren't something I'm psyched about, but as long as it's to solve a technical problem and provide a better experience to the player I'm not immediately opposed.

 

That said, it would be really nice if there was a way to opt out of this, and I have a feeling there won't be.

 

The other issues Windows Store apps scare me much, much more.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PC-Gaming-Shakeup-Ashes-Singularity-DX12-and-Microsoft-Store

[Samfisher]

Just now, typographie said:

I actually don't have as much of a problem with this as some do. Cutscenes are often a very large proportion of the size of a game install, and that's why we often still get blocky, low-fidelity 720p30 cutscenes that are so jarring when we're otherwise playing the game at 1080p60. If streaming them in gives us the option to have better cutscene fidelity, I actually don't mind this. Arbitrary always-online to play a single player component isn't something I love, but as long as it's to solve a technical problem and provide a better experience to the player I don't really mind.

 

That said, it would be really nice if there was a way to opt out of this, and I have a feeling there won't be.

 

The other issues Windows Store apps scare me much, much more.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/PC-Gaming-Shakeup-Ashes-Singularity-DX12-and-Microsoft-Store

So why not give PC users an option then?  We're the platform with practically unlimited storage space.  To include ZERO of these cutscenes is just insane!  And I do know the other BS with the store, and this added on to the game is just another way to say fuck you.

[Trik'Stari]

Just now, Samfisher said:

So why not give PC users an option then?  We're the platform with practically unlimited storage space.  To include ZERO of these cutscenes is just insane!  And I do know the other BS with the store, and this added on to the game is just another way to say fuck you.

Piracy.

 

Which is funny, because this will lead to nothing BUT piracy.

[typographie]

11 minutes ago, Samfisher said:

So why not give PC users an option then?  We're the platform with practically unlimited storage space.  To include ZERO of these cutscenes is just insane!  And I do know the other BS with the store, and this added on to the game is just another way to say fuck you.

Like I said at the end, I'd be happiest about it if we could opt out of it somehow.

 

10 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Piracy.

 

Which is funny, because this will lead to nothing BUT piracy.

Well, I can't get inside Remedy/Microsoft's heads, but the cutscenes will end up on Youtube anyway. Probably in 4K. If this is meant to be DRM to deter piracy, it's probably the silliest way to go about it that I've ever heard. It's not really even an obstacle.

[ChineseChef]

33 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Incoming boycott.

 

I know I for one, will not be purchasing this game. My internet connection sucks a big one, and this would just make the entire game unplayable.

I can't see a boycott making any real difference.  But I can see people simply not being able to play it making a huge difference.  The boycotts never go anywhere, but if consumers know they have bad internet, and know they have to stream a ton of video, plus the other MS store issues, they may just not buy it cause they CAN'T play it.  Which if it happens to enough people will be way way way more effective than a boycott ever could be. 

 

MS will see angry consumers boycotting as a small group of nobodies who don't matter.  But if accounting says X number of players would have bought it, but they can't stream all that video and it won't work on their computer because the stupid store, that might actually get some changes.  Cause while I'm not interested in the game, even if I was, the "have to stream the video" would be an instant no from me, far too many ways that can go wrong.

 

What happens if you are mid game and the servers go down?  Can you just not play anymore?  Does it keep playing the game, but you don't get cut scenes?  If this is really what they want, why don't they just make all games online only, and you don't even download the game, just a streaming client.  Then there will be no more piracy, but also barely anyone playing anymore.

 

I just see this as MS way of really "focusing" on PC gaming.  They are going to put a lot of "effort" into PC games, that will fail intentionally, and then they will just point at it and say "well, we tried".  Then they will blame it on piracy and say PC gamers are just whiny or uninterested.

[Bouzoo]

I've got a feeling this is gonna be a GOTY, but not in a good way. 

[deviant88]

Forget that, since when videogaming turned into watching 4K movies? i want video games with 0 cutscenes, cutscenes are retarded i play video games for the gameplay, the gameplay meaning the controll i have over the game and its outcome, preferably in a fun way.

Fuck off with your hollywood cutscene movie experience and 24-30 fps, and fps is just a number.All this bullshit comes from the hollywood way of doing things/mentality.

No more cutscenes please, i want my game to have 30gb of maps and weapons and gameplay modes, not 15gb of movies i skip anyway and 15gb of content from which 5GB is preinstalled DLC mfkers.....blow me M$ and the game industry.

 

phew /rant

[Squirrel724]

So wait: The xbox one which is limited to 500gb of space unless you buy a console with the 1TB drive gets the cut scenes without the need for streaming but the PC which most people have at least 1TB and can easily upgrade the storage is forced to stream the cut scenes due to storage space? Really Microsoft?

[Samfisher]

Just now, Squirrel724 said:

So wait: The xbox one which is limited to 500gb of space unless you buy a console with the 1TB drive gets the cut scenes without the need for streaming but the PC which most people have at least 1TB and can easily upgrade the storage is forced to stream the cut scenes due to storage space? Really Microsoft?

To be fair, this decision was probably made by Remedy and not MS but who knows.

[Katorice]

43 minutes ago, ChineseChef said:

I just see this as MS way of really "focusing" on PC gaming.  They are going to put a lot of "effort" into PC games, that will fail intentionally, and then they will just point at it and say "well, we tried".  Then they will blame it on piracy and say PC gamers are just whiny or uninterested.

this.

I want more on this platform, not less. so having windows store, at first, seemed like an alright idea. but now.. all I can think is how much this might hurt the platform. If they don't fix any of the issues with the store, sales will be low. they will use these sales figures to justify dropping everything. while telling media "those damn pirates shoved us right out of the market :'("

[suicidalfranco]

MS task force in 3...

[Lazmarr]

7 hours ago, Samfisher said:

Source : http://www.pcgamesn.com/quantum-break/quantum-breaks-live-action-cutscenes-will-require-an-internet-connection

Holy freakin balls, this is some extreme DRM bullshit!  First all the fluff of being a MS Store exclusive, then all the nonsense with the MS Store game issues with v-sync and no executables, and now this.  Is Remedy just looking for ways to NOT succeed with the game??

 

I call total BS on this... No space on the disc?  Get it on more fucking discs then... RIP everyone with an internet bandwidth cap, low bandwidth, high latency connection.  This is beyond Ubisoft level now.

Why exactly is this a problem?

Consoles get more space on their disc for better textures/better game.

PC players should have a decent internet connection anyway since it's likely to be a 50+ GB download.

I don't see a problem since we get an exclusive 4K option and it's not really DRM since the cutscenes are TIED to the TV show so would have to be streamed anyway.