Pirate needs to make 200k Youtube views to avoid his fines

[Castdeath97]

That's actually not unreasonable. I mean, persecuting piracy from minor infractions seems rather pointless in an on itself but at least this is akin to community service when other "pirates" get jail time for the same stuff. 

Exactly, especially since many don't what is wrong with the concept of privacy.

[elfensky]

Have my view. And another on my second pc. And a third on my phone. Arrr' all for one and one for all!

[thecreativename]

Why do they care so much..........

i see what the government spends thier tax money on............

instead of finding real criminals..........

You don't think intellectual property has value? He stole intellectual property.

[thecreativename]

Piracy is NOT a lost sale, no company should be able to claim 'compensation' for a non-sale.

You're right. And if I copyevery aspect of the iPhone's design and sell it for 99 dollars, and I sell millions, it's not  lost sales for apple. Those people were never going to pay 699 for an iphone anyway. Apple shouldn't be allowed to sue me for damages. /s

[rattacko123]

A small fine of $500,000

[Str_Mape]

I love that it only took 5 days for him to avoid having to pay 500K

[Dabombinable]

212K hits, he's off the hook.

[Dabombinable]

You don't think intellectual property has value? He stole intellectual property.

Stealing implies that said property was physically taken.

[jagdtigger]

You don't think intellectual property has value? He stole intellectual property.

It has, but in many cases it is overpriced. They still wont learn the simple lesson that less is more... :rolleyes: For instace i get 500€ monthly, half of that sum would go to maintain my home(electricity, rent fees/loan, etc). Im living with my parents because i found a job where i live. And a ....... movie costs anywhere from 15€ to 50€. And i have a relatively good payment in my country... Luckily for us the local copyright cult wont came after us because they get money from an extra tax on empty media. Its a win-win, we have entertainment and they have their money . Downloading games and software of course is the "black zone" even here...

Edited November 26, 2015 by jagdtigger

[SolarNova]

 My view for the pirate. be free !

 

Never give up .. never surrender !

 

 

 

 

Gotta love how the viewer count spiked as soon as the news was out. Up urs corporate bullies, shoulda known the internet always wins B)

[patrickjp93]

200K? Judge should slapped him with 10 million views.

[BOT Edward]

Piracy is NOT a lost sale, no company should be able to claim 'compensation' for a non-sale.

It's loss of a potential sale... Just like having an ISP compensate for a business for downtime (loss of productivity leading to income).

Ignorance isn't a valid defense in the court of law.

 

IMO: This is a great way to punish him because it helps spread their side of the story. Making someone bankrupt just makes people think that they have to hide their things more (using vpns and such), whereas this would maybe... just maybe stop 1 person from pirating something and by their hopes start a chain of events leading to the defeat of piracy.

I don't believe the punishment should be as bad for piracy as it is (regularly), but at the end of the day you are breaking the law.

[thecreativename]

Stealing implies that said property was physically taken.

Stealing doesn't have to be physical.

[Dabombinable]

Stealing doesn't have to be physical.

The definition:

1. take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

   "thieves stole her bicycle"

   synonyms: purloin, thieve, take, take for oneself, help oneself to, loot, pilfer, abscond with, run off with, appropriate, abstract, carry off, shoplift; More

   embezzle, misappropriate;

   have one's fingers/hand in the till;

   informalwalk off/away with, run away/off with, rob, swipe, nab, rip off, lift, ‘liberate’, ‘borrow’, filch, snaffle, snitch, souvenir;

   informalnick, pinch, half-inch, whip, knock off, nobble, bone, scrump, blag;

   informalheist, glom;

   informalsnavel;

   informaltief;

   archaiccrib, hook;

   rarepeculate, defalcate;

   informalwalk, go walkies

   "the raiders stole a fax machine"

   theft, thieving, thievery, robbery, larceny, burglary, shoplifting, pilfering, pilferage, looting, appropriation, misappropriation;

   embezzlement;

   rarepeculation, defalcation

   "he was convicted of stealing"

   • dishonestly pass off (another person's ideas) as one's own.

     "accusations that one group had stolen ideas from the other were soon flying"

     synonyms: plagiarize, copy, pass off as one's own, infringe the copyright of, pirate, poach, borrow, appropriate; More

     informalrip off, lift, pinch, nick, crib

     "he alleged that his work was stolen by his tutor"
   • take the opportunity to give or share (a kiss) when it is not expected or when people are not watching.

     "he stole kisses in shop doorways"

     synonyms: snatch, sneak, obtain stealthily, get surreptitiously

     "she was a beauty, and he'd often wanted to steal a kiss"
   • (in various sports) gain (an advantage, a run, or possession of the ball) unexpectedly or by exploiting the temporary distraction of an opponent.

     "he stole the ball from Kevin Scott to run on and score his seventh League goal"
   • Baseball

     run to (a base) while the pitcher is in the act of delivery.

     "he claims he can steal a hundred bases this season"
2. 2.

   move somewhere quietly or surreptitiously.

   "he stole down to the kitchen"

   synonyms: creep, sneak, slink, slip, slither, slide, glide, sidle, slope, edge, move furtively, tiptoe, pussyfoot, pad, prowl More

   "he stole out of the room"

   abscond, decamp, make off, run off, run away, flee, bolt, take off, take flight, disappear, vanish, slip away, sneak away, beat a hasty retreat, escape, make a run for it, make one's getaway, leave, depart, make oneself scarce;

   informalsplit, scram, skedaddle, vamoose, skip, cut and run, make tracks, push off, shove off, clear off, hightail it, hotfoot it, show a clean pair of heels, do a bunk, do a runner, do a moonlight flit, do a disappearing act, head for the hills, fly the coop, take French leave, go AWOL;

   informalscarper;

   informaltake a powder, go on the lam, light out, bug out, peel out, cut out;

   informalhook it

   "she disobeyed a court order and stole away with the children"

   • direct (a look) quickly and unobtrusively.

     "he stole a furtive glance at her"

      

      

[BloodySinner]

Piracy is NOT a lost sale, no company should be able to claim 'compensation' for a non-sale.

 

You're a joke. 

[thecreativename]

The definition:

1. take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

   "thieves stole her bicycle"

   synonyms: purloin, thieve, take, take for oneself, help oneself to, loot, pilfer, abscond with, run off with, appropriate,abstract, carry off, shoplift; More

   embezzle, misappropriate;

   have one's fingers/hand in the till;

   informalwalk off/away with, run away/off with, rob, swipe, nab, rip off, lift, ‘liberate’, ‘borrow’, filch, snaffle, snitch, souvenir;

   informalnick, pinch, half-inch, whip, knock off, nobble, bone, scrump, blag;

   informalheist, glom;

   informalsnavel;

   informaltief;

   archaiccrib, hook;

   rarepeculate, defalcate;

   informalwalk, go walkies

   "the raiders stole a fax machine"

   theft, thieving, thievery, robbery, larceny, burglary, shoplifting, pilfering, pilferage, looting, appropriation, misappropriation;

   embezzlement;

   rarepeculation, defalcation

   "he was convicted of stealing"

   • dishonestly pass off (another person's ideas) as one's own.

     "accusations that one group had stolen ideas from the other were soon flying"

     synonyms: plagiarize, copy, pass off as one's own, infringe the copyright of, pirate, poach, borrow, appropriate; More

     informalrip off, lift, pinch, nick, crib

     "he alleged that his work was stolen by his tutor"
   • take the opportunity to give or share (a kiss) when it is not expected or when people are not watching.

     "he stole kisses in shop doorways"

     synonyms: snatch, sneak, obtain stealthily, get surreptitiously

     "she was a beauty, and he'd often wanted to steal a kiss"
   • (in various sports) gain (an advantage, a run, or possession of the ball) unexpectedly or by exploiting the temporary distraction of an opponent.

     "he stole the ball from Kevin Scott to run on and score his seventh League goal"
   • Baseball

     run to (a base) while the pitcher is in the act of delivery.

     "he claims he can steal a hundred bases this season"
2. 2.

   move somewhere quietly or surreptitiously.

   "he stole down to the kitchen"

   synonyms: creep, sneak, slink, slip, slither, slide, glide, sidle, slope, edge, move furtively, tiptoe, pussyfoot, pad, prowl More

   "he stole out of the room"

   abscond, decamp, make off, run off, run away, flee, bolt, take off, take flight, disappear, vanish, slip away, sneak away, beat a hasty retreat, escape, make a run for it, make one's getaway, leave, depart, make oneself scarce;

   informalsplit, scram, skedaddle, vamoose, skip, cut and run, make tracks, push off, shove off, clear off, hightail it, hotfoot it,show a clean pair of heels, do a bunk, do a runner, do a moonlight flit, do a disappearing act, head for the hills, fly the coop,take French leave, go AWOL;

   informalscarper;

   informaltake a powder, go on the lam, light out, bug out, peel out, cut out;

   informalhook it

   "she disobeyed a court order and stole away with the children"

   • direct (a look) quickly and unobtrusively.

     "he stole a furtive glance at her"

Yes, that's the definition, and I'm starting to question wether you even read your own definition

"take (another person's property) without permission or legal right "

"legal right"

 

 

One of the examples prodided  "dishonestly pass off (another person's ideas) as one's own.

"accusations that one group had stolen ideas from the other were soon flying"

synonyms: plagiarize, copy, pass off as one's own, infringe the copyright of, pirate, poach, borrow, appropriate; More

informalrip off, lift, pinch, nick, crib

"he alleged that his work was stolen by his tutor"

 

According to you, since his work isn't physical, his tutor couldn't have stolen it. Nope. And look, pirate is right there in the synonyms.

You don't need legal rights to take physical things. And you're telling me intellectual property isn't property? This is why people who defend piracy are a joke.

[Dabombinable]

Yes, that's the definition, and I'm starting to question wether you even read your own definition

"take (another person's property) without permission or legal right "

"legal right"

 

 

One of the examples prodided  "dishonestly pass off (another person's ideas) as one's own.

"accusations that one group had stolen ideas from the other were soon flying"

synonyms: plagiarize, copy, pass off as one's own, infringe the copyright of, pirate, poach, borrow, appropriate; More

informalrip off, lift, pinch, nick, crib

"he alleged that his work was stolen by his tutor"

 

According to you, since his work isn't physical, his tutor couldn't have stolen it. Nope. And look, pirate is right there in the synonyms.

You don't need legal rights to take physical things. And you're telling me intellectual property isn't property? This is why people who defend piracy are a joke.

Piracy isn't taking any property. Its copying. And his tutor did steal it because he was acting as if it were his work.

[EvilWiffles]

I like piracy. I also like buying things I like.

In combination, it's the greatest thing . I never really pirate music or movies though, only stuff I'd actually use sometimes, if there is no alternative software. 3DS Max being one of those I have no point in buying being I don't like it but I need it due to compatibility issues with other alternative applications. Almost everyone I know pirates it or uses an alternative... 

 

I watched it though, wish there were subtitles lol.

[TetraSky]

"upwards of half a million dollars in fines"
"However since he couldn’t pay it"

Of course he couldn't... These fines are just ridiculous. It's just the court saying "you have to go bankrupt". As if some small time pirate ever even made anywhere near that much money.

[EvilWiffles]

"upwards of half a million dollars in fines"

"However since he couldn’t pay it"

Of course he couldn't... These fines are just ridiculous. It's just the court saying "you have to go bankrupt". As if some small time pirate ever even made anywhere near that much money.

 

Yeah, they aren't going to find good compensation from him. Pretty stupid, honestly. Half the people who contribute to piracy don't make jack unless it's from donations, they do it for a hobby and the name that comes along with it.

[Arty]

You don't think intellectual property has value? He stole intellectual property.

your logic is flawed, he lost 0 money

and he wasn't going to buy the stuff anyway.

if anything this gets the creator more money.

[Albatross]

If he didn't get the views, good luck trying to squeeze the money out of him.

[winningsince1337]

If he didn't get the views, good luck trying to squeeze the money out of him.

He was at 130k this morning and now he's at 367k. He's gucci

[Albatross]

He was at 130k this morning and now he's at 367k. He's gucci

 

I know, I was just saying even if he didn't get the views, good luck getting the money from him. lol

[Kamina]