Smoking Barrels - LTT's Unnofficial Gun Club!

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Drak3 said:

I feel bad for you son.

How does the AR-15 compare to the AK-47? I shot that. 

 

I also shot simulation M16, and have an airsoft GBB m16. 

[Drak3]

4 minutes ago, fpo said:

How does the AR-15 compare to the AK-47? I shot that. 

 

I also shot simulation M16, and have an airsoft GBB m16. 

More accurate, sharper recoil impulse.

 

But my AR15s are M4 style carbines. I want to build an M16 style rifle. Technically, 2, a 20" 5.56 and a 24" 6.5 Grendel.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

More accurate, sharper recoil impulse.

 

But my AR15s are M4 style carbines. I want to build an M16 style rifle. Technically, 2, a 20" 5.56 and a 24" 6.5 Grendel.

Is the sharper increase fun? 
I love how when shooting an AK you can feel the bolt sliding back and everything. 

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, fpo said:

Is the sharper increase fun?

On my personal that was gifted to me, not really because it tends to rise.

On my father's, it is because the rifle shoots flatter.

[Drak3]

5 hours ago, fpo said:

Is the sharper increase fun? 

We'll see how my new S&W M&P15 does with its new Seekins Precision break does, and what Magpul's UBR Gen2 is like.

[Drak3]

Gots me some tools for making uppers of the way.

[Real_PhillBert]

10 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Gots me some tools for making uppers of the way.

Reaction rod?

[Drak3]

56 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Reaction rod?

Upper vise block, Roll pin starters, and a lapper for recievers.

Already have an armorer's wrench and lower vise block.

[Real_PhillBert]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Upper vise block, Roll pin starters, and a lapper for recievers.

Already have an armorer's wrench and lower vise block.

Personally I hate the ones that clamp to the upper, securing from the locking lugs is a far superior system in my experience. Even the simply Magpul BEV block works fairly well if you put the locking pin in. 

 

Roll pin punches are a necessity for any decent tool kit, so that's cool.

 

I've used my Lapping tool a few times, and have had good success with them. 

[Drak3]

Just now, Real_PhillBert said:

Personally I hate the ones that clamp to the upper, securing from the locking lugs is a far superior system in my experience. Even the simply Magpul BEV block works fairly well if you put the locking pin in. 

I actually kinda need the upper vise to install the barrel itself, plus I can't see any reason why the reaction rod is better, looks like the worse system in theory to me.

 

2 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Roll pin punches are a necessity for any decent tool kit, so that's cool.

I'm going to test them against vise grips, see which works better.

[Real_PhillBert]

4 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

I actually kinda need the upper vise to install the barrel itself, plus I can't see any reason why the reaction rod is better, looks like the worse system in theory to me.

Transfering the torque load to the weakest portion of the firearm (upper receiver) is generally a poor idea. Locking against the locking lugs is a far better plan. I've installed many barrels with reaction rods and BEV blocks, what's the reason you cant do the same?

 

7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

I'm going to test them against vise grips, see which works better.

First time assembling one?

[Drak3]

14 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

First time assembling one?

Yup.

 

14 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Transfering the torque load to the weakest portion of the firearm (upper receiver) is generally a poor idea. Locking against the locking lugs is a far better plan. I've installed many barrels with reaction rods and BEV blocks, what's the reason you cant do the same?

As far as I can see, torque is hitting the reciever regardless, with a block, it's being transfered over a larger area.

 

Also, I can buy another mil-spec upper for $50, the CHEAPish 24" Grendel Barrel I'm building with is $150, on sale right now.

[Real_PhillBert]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Yup.

Excellent, they're a ton of fun!

 

The lower is the trickiest part, and even then the front detent pin is really the only thing you have to take a little care of. Those detent pins like to launch themselves across rooms.

 

4 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

As far as I can see, torque is hitting the reciever regardless, with a block, it's being transfered over a larger area.

With a reaction rod only the threads see any forces, the rest of the receiver is just along for the ride. With a upper vise block, the upper can flex a bit and take some of the torque which makes for a less consistent torque on the barrel nut. It's not an enormous deal, people assemble with them all the time, but not the ideal situation. 

 

7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Also, I can buy another mil-spec upper for $50, the CHEAPish 24" Grendel Barrel I'm building with is $150, on sale right now.

Are you using a clamp or set screw gas block? If you're using a set screw type, make sure you dimple the barrel so it cant rotate. 

[Drak3]

17 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Are you using a clamp or set screw gas block? If you're using a set screw type, make sure you dimple the barrel so it cant rotate. 

Haven't decided yet. Only thing I'm sure of is that I want an adjustable block.

 

18 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

The lower is the trickiest part, and even then the front detent pin is really the only thing you have to take a little care of. Those detent pins like to launch themselves across rooms.

For right now, I'm just building an upper, and using my S&W lower.

[Real_PhillBert]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Haven't decided yet. Only thing I'm sure of is that I want an adjustable block.

I've gotten to the point where SLR Rifleworks is now the only adjustable gas block I use. I've had a few others that liked to adjust themselves. SLR is not cheap, but they make really really good stuff.

 

http://slrrifleworks.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=57

 

5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

For right now, I'm just building an upper, and using my S&W lower.

Nothing wrong with that. 

[Drak3]

9 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

I've gotten to the point where SLR Rifleworks is now the only adjustable gas block I use. I've had a few others that liked to adjust themselves. SLR is not cheap, but they make really really good stuff.

I'm thinking of going Odin Works, particularly since they're based in Idaho.

[Real_PhillBert]

4 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

I'm thinking of going Odin Works, particularly since they're based in Idaho.

I cant say I've ever used that one but it appears to be quality. Give it a go. 

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

I cant say I've ever used that one but it appears to be quality. Give it a go. 

I'm just sad that they don't make 24" barrels.

[Drak3]

Tools came in today. Apparently we already had two sets of roll pin starters.

[ArtoriaPendragon]

Oh man, I haven't checked in here in ages!

 

I got this a while back: 

 

 

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, ArtoriaPendragon said:

Oh man, I haven't checked in here in ages!

 

I got this a while back: 

 

 

That an M1A, C, or D type reciever?

[Poohy14]

Damn since my last post from like 8 months ago I have bought so many firearms since then.

Well here they are but some I need to take some better pictures yet but just waiting for a good day to do that.

Here is my June of 1943 Spingfield M1 Garand


This is my 1896 Brazilian 7mm Mauser I am restoring 


This is my 1943 German Mauser K98


Just updated this Smith & Wesson M&P9L Pro Series C.O.R.E


Savage Axis in .308 with a Vortex Crossfire II 3-24x50


Sig Sauser P320 compact


Got myself a Browning bow for deer hunting


Glenfield Marlin .22LR Semi auto, made in the early 90's and never been shot, still have the original scope with instruction manual with it as well


This is my AR9 in 9mm, stil building this (needs a different optic yet but had this one laying around)


Got this Yugo M48 2 weeks ago, need to finish the stock since its ruff but might Sportize it.

[Jito463]

Nice collection.  I wish I had the money to invest into more guns.

3 minutes ago, Poohy14 said:

Just updated this Smith & Wesson M&P9L Pro Series C.O.R.E

I considered getting one of these recently.  I ended up going with the H&K P2000 I posted the pic of earlier, but I may yet consider this for in the future.

[Guest]

@Poohy14 wow!!! You bought like a whole arsenal. You can start a militia with what you bought in just 8 months. 

 

How many guns do you have? Lol

[Drak3]

Besides money, what's realistically stopping me from buying a .50 BMG rifle?

 

Anyone know?