"Windows 10.1 beta" - New memory managememt: live compression/decompression - RAM usage may fluctuate. Beta testers enjoying it now.

[GoodBytes]

Microsoft details its new improved memory management that is coming up in the next version of Windows 10. We don't know if it will part of 10.1 officially, but as it is a big feature, it is safe to assume so. Currently, Windows Insiders on the Fast ring are using it as we speak. The early release is probably due to ensure the most testing is done. Already, it is known that Google Chrome 64-bit specifically, crashes due the new memory management. Microsoft already warmed Google about it to work together in solving the issue, but we know no details if Google has responded.

The new memory management system allows Windows 10 to run better on a system with low amount of memory. The target is low cost systems with low memory, old systems, and smartphone running Windows 10.

It works by detecting when you are low in memory, and when you are it will compress in place unused for a while pages (program memory) in place (for maximum performance), instead of moving it to disk pagefile. The problem with secondary storage (HDD/SSD), is that those are way slower than your RAM. So avoiding it, keeps the system operating faster. When a program is which its memory pages where compressed is accessed by the user, Windows decompresses it, once again in place.

As a result of this behavior, expect Windows processes and your programs memory usage, to fluctuate on the task manager, and CPU usage may increase as it decompresses/compressed your pages, which should be visible when you ate getting close to low memory (memory pressure). Doing so reduces disk read/write of disk, and increases system responsiveness.

Microsoft says:

One of the primary goals of any operating system is to manage and share resources efficiently. How well and operating system arbitrates competing memory requirements is particularly important, because it impacts the user’s perception of system responsiveness.

In practice, compressed memory takes up about40% of the uncompressed size, and as a result of a typical device running a typical workload, Windows 10 writes pages out to disk only 50% as often as previous versions of the OS.

Source: http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-educates-insiders-windows-10-handles-memory

Thanks for the tip: @deviant88

Office build number of Windows 10 is: 10240

Windows 10 Insider Preview fast ring Build where this feature was introduced: 10525

[AlwaysFSX]

Welp, I guess this is how we're naming Service Packs now.

 

Hopefully they can fix this mess of an OS.

[Zayzo]

Awesome.

 

Welp, I guess this is how we're naming Service Packs now.

 

Hopefully they can fix this mess of an OS.

I like it a lot Very lightweight and smooth.

[iamdarkyoshi]

Hmm... will it fix my daily freezes and sound issues?

[AlwaysFSX]

Awesome.

 

I like it a lot Very lightweight and smooth.

I just started to VM it and I'm not particularly pleased. Maaaaaybeeeeee it's because I'm using it on a VM but it seems that a lot of people are having problems with it so I'm not so sure about that.

[LukaP]

Cool. really useful for all the cheapo tablets, and the compute stick like devices. gonna check this out further

[LukaP]

Welp, I guess this is how we're naming Service Packs now.

 

Hopefully they can fix this mess of an OS.

you lovely person, its a beautiful and smooth os

Edited August 21, 2015 by colonel_mortis
Sunshine and rainbows

[Zayzo]

 

I just started to VM it and I'm not particularly pleased. Maaaaaybeeeeee it's because I'm using it on a VM but it seems that a lot of people are having problems with it so I'm not so sure about that.

Yeah, some people are having problems while others aren't. Give it a month, i'm sure most if not all major issues will be fixed. I've got 5 systems now with W10 and all work better than before to my surprise.

Edited August 21, 2015 by colonel_mortis
More sunshine and rainbows

[Aytex]

Welp, I guess this is how we're naming Service Packs now.

 

Hopefully they can fix this mess of an OS.

wait is this a update or a new os? wutdafauq

[Zayzo]

wait is this a update or a new os? wutdafauq

Remember 8.0 got the update 8.1.... think that.

[Sauron]

I just started to VM it and I'm not particularly pleased. Maaaaaybeeeeee it's because I'm using it on a VM but it seems that a lot of people are having problems with it so I'm not so sure about that.

 

still, most problems are related to some poor design decision (namely the not-yet-complete separation of the "modern ui" from the desktop, which is still a lot better than it ever was in 8/.1) rather than to the underlying os. In the time I used it it never crashed (except when my psu started to die) and was all around very responsive. It's no vista, that's for sure.

[Aytex]

Remember 8.0 got the update 8.1.... think that.

better be free. or else..... imma go ham

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

I just started to VM it and I'm not particularly pleased. Maaaaaybeeeeee it's because I'm using it on a VM but it seems that a lot of people are having problems with it so I'm not so sure about that.

i can confirm its very smooth to use compared to windows 7. 

[ManIkWeet]

Huh, I was more interested in the new feature that allows you to CHANGE THE FUCKING COLOR OF THE TITLE BAR OF A WINDOW.  :angry:

[AlwaysFSX]

still, most problems are related to some poor design decision (namely the not-yet-complete separation of the "modern ui" from the desktop, which is still a lot better than it ever was in 8/.1) rather than to the underlying os. In the time I used it it never crashed (except when my psu started to die) and was all around very responsive. It's no vista, that's for sure.

Eh, I'll just wait a few more months.

 

i can confirm its very smooth to use compared to windows 7. 

Only times I had problems with 7 being smooth was my HDD being slow and when I broke the OS beyond repair.

 

ladies ladies lets not fight

Never!

[Guest]

Huh, I was more interested in the new feature that allows you to CHANGE THE FUCKING COLOR OF THE TITLE BAR OF A WINDOW.  :angry:

 

Me too, chrome looks horrible this way and I can't see which window is active.

[Aytex]

Me too, chrome looks horrible this way and I can't see which window is active.

as a graphic design it pisses me off

[AlwaysFSX]

well wait a few weeks. i get fixes and updates almost daily anyway, and ive never encountered a problem with it. 

I can't even update Windows 8, what makes you think I can update 10?

 

quality posts are a rare thing on LTT these days, lets not ruin this one , i'm sure there are plenty one liners with source threads you guyz could cuddle.  

All posts by me and Luka are quality.

[LukaP]

I can't even update Windows 8, what makes you think I can update 10?

 

All posts by me and Luka are quality.

Well its auto updates and they are small, a few kB in size on average.

 

And yes, very very true, ask @BonBon Scott or @ShadowCaptain

[AlwaysFSX]

Well its auto updates and they are small, a few kB in size on average.

 

And yes, very very true, ask @BonBon Scott or @ShadowCaptain

I can't even download shit at a decent rate to begin with, even if they are "small" sizes.

[Speedbird]

No N builds though....

[JefferyD90]

 

 

Yeah, some people are having problems while others aren't. Give it a month, i'm sure most if not all major issues will be fixed. I've got 5 systems now with W10 and all work better than before to my surprise.

Most of the issues people are having is because they did a upgrade install.  It works exactly how Microsoft made it to work, which isnt much different than anything else they do.

[Embattled]

Please tell me this isn't going to affect systems that already have a lot of ram. The last thing I want is to drop frames or have issues while streaming to twitch because my CPU was compressing/decompressing while I have 16 gigs

[ShadowCaptain]

Well its auto updates and they are small, a few kB in size on average.

 

And yes, very very true, ask @BonBon Scott or @ShadowCaptain

 

yeah I havnt even noticed a single update, or any restarts

[RH00D]

OTish: Anyone want to start placing bets how many service packs Win10 will get?

 

You don't know what a service pack is, do you? Because this isn't it.