Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 Ti with Full GM200 Core Ready – Planned for September Launch

[Lays]

Why would they destroy their Titan X market?

 

 

The Titan X still has the bigger price tag & 12gb of vram, dumb rich people will still buy it.

[ttam]

The Titan X still has the bigger price tag & 12gb of vram, dumb rich people will still buy it.

Hey now... That hurts

[Lays]

Hey now... That hurts

 

 

It is pretty true doe, lol

 

Did you see that wreck in Tacoma? I was going up past Seattle the other day when it happened,

[Sauron]

well, the titan x isnt for gamers. that would be for developers. then 980 ti would be for gamers. back like how  the titan line up was supposed to be.

 

that being said, titan x at a lower price?

 

well if this is true the ONLY difference would be the vram, which on the titan x is arguably just too much to be useful

[mikeeginger]

Might get this to upgrade my rig

[Kyuubixchidori]

well if this is true the ONLY difference would be the vram, which on the titan x is arguably just too much to be useful

Until you triple or quad sli them, then there performance might match vram lol.

I wonder if professional work benefits from disportationally more vram. Because in gaming there is zero point right now for how it acts

[Dabombinable]

Until you triple or quad sli them, then there performance might match vram lol.

I wonder if professional work benefits from disportationally more vram. Because in gaming there is zero point right now for how it acts

Here's a clue, 8GB of vRAM is plenty for 4K when playing the most demanding games, high levels of vRAM such as you find on a TitanX are good for going even further.

[IceCold007]

By the time most games need 12 gb vram which the Titan X has there will be better cards out there. ATM 4 to 6 gb vram seems about right for the games coming out.

 

Correct me if im wrong but is there any games out there which use over 10 gig vram even at 4k resolution ?

 

If there is i've not heard of any on this planet.

[deviant88]

Im sick of nvidia and them being memory greedy and conservative.Put more in there,i did a mistake buying gtx 670 altough its great performance that 2gb buffer will not last for long.

[Dabombinable]

Im sick of nvidia and them being memory greedy and conservative.Put more in there,i did a mistake buying gtx 670 altough its great performance that 2gb buffer will not last for long.

Memory isn't the main problem, its the bandwidth. Without high bandwidth for the memory, a graphics card starts struggling the more you increase the resolution (hence why the GTX 970 gets beaten at 4K by the R9 290X).

[Sauron]

Here's a clue, 8GB of vRAM is plenty for 4K when playing the most demanding games, high levels of vRAM such as you find on a TitanX are good for going even further.

 

as if a titan x could drive anything higher than 4k at high enough settings to use more than 5gb of vram... even 4 of those wouldn't be good enough for something like 8k, and since vram usage is not directly proportional even that wouldn't use more than 6-7gb.

[Biased Opinion]

Part of it was already explained but I'll add that it's not just die size, the number of NAND on-PCB would also become a problem. It would be a long ass card, that's for sure.

nothing wrong with having a long ass card. Dual gpu cards are already known for being huge.

[MEC-777]

980Ti vs R9 390X.

 

Efficiency vs brute-force.

 

This is gonna be interesting...

[MEC-777]

For those that think the 980Ti is an issue for the Titan X (Jayztwocents);

 

It's simply not. Go back and look at the 780Ti and original Titan. Same situation. The Titan is not [primarily] a gaming card. It's meant for compute, rendering etc. Workstation stuff, hence the 12GB vram which is necessary in some of those situations. Nvidia knows people are still going to buy the Titan for gaming, so they brand it as GeForce. The 980Ti is (will be) aimed specifically at gamers, for gaming. Hence, it won't have astronomical amounts of vram and a lower price tag than the Titan X.

 

It's really not that difficult to understand where these cards fit, relative to one another, in the market. A 980Ti would not undercut the Titan X.

[christianled59]

Can't wait. I'll definately be getting one of these.

[syoumans54]

Call me crazy... But I still want a Titan X Superclocked edition...

[ItsAFeature]

For those that think the 980Ti is an issue for the Titan X (Jayztwocents);

 

It's simply not. Go back and look at the 780Ti and original Titan. Same situation. The Titan is not [primarily] a gaming card. It's meant for compute, rendering etc. Workstation stuff, hence the 12GB vram which is necessary in some of those situations. Nvidia knows people are still going to buy the Titan for gaming, so they brand it as GeForce. The 980Ti is (will be) aimed specifically at gamers, for gaming. Hence, it won't have astronomical amounts of vram and a lower price tag than the Titan X.

 

It's really not that difficult to understand where these cards fit, relative to one another, in the market. A 980Ti would not undercut the Titan X.

 

Except that the Titan X is not a compute card. It's targeted at gamers who want the full fat GM200 with 12GB of VRAM.

[patrickjp93]

That's because he doesn't speculate but rather fills blogs with what is known by the public already.

No, more than half of his articles are predictions. I follow him pretty closely. He predicted the Broadwell Iris Pro Graphics for desktop SKUs before any other major news site for instance.

[MEC-777]

Except that the Titan X is not a compute card. It's targeted at gamers who want the full fat GM200 with 12GB of VRAM.

 

Yeah, I've heard that it doesn't have double precision, but it's still very much a workstation-oriented card. No doubt Nvidia is also targeting gamers who want the highest specs, because they know people will buy it.

 

I still don't think the 980Ti will undercut the Titan X. Some people actually need the Titan X for it's higher vram and what-not for certain applications, while those who are mostly just gaming on single displays will be after the 980Ti for it's better performance per dollar aspect. There is a place for both in the market. 

[Notional]

For those that think the 980Ti is an issue for the Titan X (Jayztwocents);

 

It's simply not. Go back and look at the 780Ti and original Titan. Same situation. The Titan is not [primarily] a gaming card. It's meant for compute, rendering etc. Workstation stuff, hence the 12GB vram which is necessary in some of those situations. Nvidia knows people are still going to buy the Titan for gaming, so they brand it as GeForce. The 980Ti is (will be) aimed specifically at gamers, for gaming. Hence, it won't have astronomical amounts of vram and a lower price tag than the Titan X.

 

It's really not that difficult to understand where these cards fit, relative to one another, in the market. A 980Ti would not undercut the Titan X.

 

I think Jay has been drinking too much Water coolant. I get his point with the original Titans (even though they were bastards too), but Titan X doesn't even have double precision (FP64) performance (it gets beaten by and AMD APU). So compute card? No way! Can it be used for video editing with its extra vram? Sure, it might be useful there, but it can't handle 10 bit colours, so it will still be an amatuer card.

[deviant88]

Memory isn't the main problem, its the bandwidth. Without high bandwidth for the memory, a graphics card starts struggling the more you increase the resolution (hence why the GTX 970 gets beaten at 4K by the R9 290X).

True but lack of bandwidth is another of Nvidia's greedy problems, when i bought my 670 256bit bus i tought of buying the 7950 with 3gbVram and 384bit bus.AMD always has best memory bandwidth since HD 5000 series i think cant remmeber earlier cards.And the same  greedy problem of nvidia is what led to the 970 drama and 290x better performance.

[MEC-777]

I think Jay has been drinking too much Water coolant. I get his point with the original Titans (even though they were bastards too), but Titan X doesn't even have double precision (FP64) performance (it gets beaten by and AMD APU). So compute card? No way! Can it be used for video editing with its extra vram? Sure, it might be useful there, but it can't handle 10 bit colours, so it will still be an amatuer card.

 

I never thought of the Titans (any of them) as professional cards. I always saw them as enthusiast parts. Usually professionals use Quadro or Firepro workstation GPUs. Amateurs/enthusiasts doing some workstation stuff, rendering, editing etc. for them, a Titan X is like a budget Quadro. I agree though, without double precision it makes it less of a workstation card, but I don't know that much about that side of things, to be honest.

 

All I do know is that if the 980Ti is a thing and it performs the same as or faster than the Titan X but with 6GB vram and costs less; that is a much more appealing card to me than the Titan X, speaking strictly as a gamer. That's basically the point I'm trying to make.

[Opcode]

No, more than half of his articles are predictions. I follow him pretty closely. He predicted the Broadwell Iris Pro Graphics for desktop SKUs before any other major news site for instance.

I could of predicted that at the launch of Haswell.  :rolleyes:

[TheGamingBarrel]

This bet isn't going to be fun.

Oh yes it will.

[mikat]

this is unlikely,it would undercut the TITAN X so hardly for no reason.

i think it will have 2880 cuda cores, just a cut back from the titan x, but still a good card.. and some other things aswell