Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 Ti with Full GM200 Core Ready – Planned for September Launch

[MegaDave91]

 

 

I have always laughed at the Titan, and probably always will, as being an overpriced "look at me and how much money/how stupid I am" type item. 

 

If anyone is "stupid", it is the ones who continually push this weak argument. People who buy these cards are well aware of what they're getting themselves into; they're not oblivious to this.

[d3sl91]

If anyone is stupid, it is the ones who continually push this weak argument. People who buy these cards are well aware of what they're getting themselves into; they're not oblivious to this.

Absolutely correct.

 

That's why some of them are "stupid". They buy the card because "its the best card". Not because it makes sense financially. Obviously that's not the case with all users, but it is to many, and Nvidia knows full well people will buy it just because "Its a titan". 

 

And yes, I see you have a Titan, congrats. Don't mean to offend you, the plague of "look at me I bought 2 Titans" is prevalent on other forums, not LTT

[Nowak]

Ya know, I've been thinking of this whole 980 Ti thing... and first, an unsourced rumor ("unnamed sources", seems so trustworthy) came up that it was being "prepared" for launch in the summer - which meant it was ready for a consumer release. Then more "unnamed sources" came in and said it was delayed to September. Why? lol who knows.

 

This, and the fact that nVIDIA would be undercutting the Titan X as well as the high-end 980 market, and the 980 already being a fully unlocked chip makes this sound more and more like nothing but hot air to me.

[That Norwegian Guy]

lol september, too late Nvidia, I'm getting the 390x this time.

 

 

There won't be a 980ti. But a gtx 990.

 

X90 is reserved for dual GPU cards, so no. The die size of GM200 makes dual GPU unlikely.

 

980ti as a SKU name isn't reserved for anything however, and that's what we're getting. Or they could call it something entirely different. But nobody really cares what it'll be called.

[Cheddle]

I'm thinking if they do release a GM200 in something other than a Titan X (and I think Nvidia will... It makes sense, I cant think of such a low volume, non-compute card launch in recent times)

 

that it will be labelled as a 980ti (perhaps 985) and may or may not be fully unlocked GM200 (depends on yield). from a performance standpoint it fits the naming convention... (990 is for dual GPU, there is no reason to go to 1xxx series name).

 

Titan X is in my mind a "premium-exclusive item" available to only those who can warrant the cost of it over a mainstream product, who want "early access" to the next gen of mainstream products (gm200) for a price premium.

 

My thoughts behind this:

 

Titan X is for gaming, not productivity, it is not to be thought of like the Titans of the past.

 

The 600mm2 chip must be yielding low production volumes with high failure rates to warrant such high price premium and "exclusive"ness of the Titan name.

 

once yield rates either:

a) improve to reach profitable levels (low numbers of failed chips)

or

B) a profitable margin of disabled-cores/failed-unit ratio is decided upon (failed chips can have failed sections disabled and then sold as inferior product)

 

A new card will be released

 

Option A sees us with a fully enabled GM200 980ti

Option B sees us with a cut-down GM200 980ti

 

The final option, scenario C, is that under Option B the yield count is so low that there is no significant performance advantage over the 980 GM204 with the required "profitable" number of disabled cores. in that scenario there is no new card. the 980 gets cheaper. end of story.

[Godlygamer23]

980 and the card announced are two different architectures : GM204 and GM200.

Previously, there has never been a XX0 and XX0ti with different architectures.

For instance, in last gen the 780 and the 780ti were what the 970 and the 980 are now : the 780/970 are cut-down chips, whose perfect chips went in 780ti and 980.

Thus the "980ti" makes no sense, ti means it's not a cut-down chip, and the 980 isn't a cut-down chip. But maybe they'll totally change their branding name and forget logic.

GM200 and GM204 use the same architecture, which is Maxwell. All 600 series and 700 series cards(except for the 750 and 750 Ti) use Kepler.

[shert73]

Welp looks like ill b selling my 980s and getting the TI's

[lutewan]

The launch date remains approximately September of this month.

what?

[fringie]

Idk the specs look too good.. Then again the 780 ti was pretty much a titan black with less vRAM when it came to gaming. I'm surprised no 20nm, I guess it is just a rumour atm.

[Merry]

Well then, would it be possible that the new GTX is not the 980ti, but a 990 that'd be a dual gpu off cut-off chips?

[Doobeedoo]

Lol what a joke, why would they cannibalize Titan X with ti version. And this kind of performance should've been on 980 since it's so expensive.

[asim1999]

Lol what a joke, why would they cannibalize Titan X with ti version. And this kind of performance should've been on 980 since it's so expensive.

well becuase not everyone needs 12GB VRAM. Its like what nvidia did with the 780 ti and original titan 

[Mattb6288]

Conveniently my birthday is in September, and I know exactly what to ask for.

[aduman]

Even if it's from sweclockers, it's still a rumor so I'm staying away for now...

[Scheer]

Does anyone have an example of a time that a WCCFTech was right? I seriously want to know if a single one of their leaks was ever true.

 

From my everything I've seen, WCCFTech saying something is going to happen simply means there is a 100% chance it WON'T be true.

 

 

I know it was originally from Sweclockers, but it seems like every story that WCCFTech chooses to repost just makes it not happen.

[Biased Opinion]

If I bought a Titan X for a single 4k display I'd be pissed right now, this is a much better option imo. 

if you bought a titan x and did not think that this card would be released within the year, you were an idiot.

[Biased Opinion]

 

lol september, too late Nvidia, I'm getting the 390x this time.

 

 

 

X90 is reserved for dual GPU cards, so no. The die size of GM200 makes dual GPU unlikely.

 

980ti as a SKU name isn't reserved for anything however, and that's what we're getting. Or they could call it something entirely different. But nobody really cares what it'll be called.

 

whats so absurd about a dual gpu gm200 card, the die is smaller than both gk110 and hawaii both of which got dual gpu cards. Still bigger than GK104 which also got a dual gpu card aswell.

[CalebTheEternal]

The launch date remains approximately September of this month.

I didn't know you could have a month inside of a month. 

[Daegun]

whats so absurd about a dual gpu gm200 card, the die is smaller than both gk110 and hawaii both of which got dual gpu cards. Still bigger than GK104 which also got a dual gpu card aswell.

The die size of GM200 is bigger than the die of all the other gpus that you mentioned.

 

At least according to Anandtech, GM200 is 601mm², GK110 is 561mm², while hawaii is the smallest at 438mm².

[patrickjp93]

Does anyone have an example of a time that a WCCFTech was right? I seriously want to know if a single one of their leaks was ever true.

 

From my everything I've seen, WCCFTech saying something is going to happen simply means there is a 100% chance it WON'T be true.

 

 

I know it was originally from Sweclockers, but it seems like every story that WCCFTech chooses to repost just makes it not happen.

About 90% of the ones since I joined LTT which were posted by Hassan Mujtaba (sp.?) have been dead on.

[Biased Opinion]

The die size of GM200 is bigger than the die of all the other gpus that you mentioned.

 

At least according to Anandtech, GM200 is 601mm², GK110 is 561mm², while hawaii is the smallest at 438mm².

 

 

the fuck was i reading, thought GM200 was around 550 or something.

[Daegun]

the fuck was i reading, thought GM200 was around 550 or something.

Not a clue

 

I still don't know if that would be a deal breaker for a dual gpu card or not though.

 

Edit: Edited out my own stupidity.

[That Norwegian Guy]

whats so absurd about a dual gpu gm200 card

 

Part of it was already explained but I'll add that it's not just die size, the number of NAND on-PCB would also become a problem. It would be a long ass card, that's for sure.

[Opcode]

About 90% of the ones since I joined LTT which were posted by Hassan Mujtaba (sp.?) have been dead on.

That's because he doesn't speculate but rather fills blogs with what is known by the public already.

[907rider]

It would not surprise me one bit if these are the correct prices and specs for the 980Ti. I actually think that the price might be a bit high.  We all know that the titan line from Nvidia is sort of the "because we can" line, if you follow autos at all its sort of like dodges "hellcat" or fords "GT" car.  And in technology terms September is still a ways off.  By then the Titan X will be old news and nvidia will need something to spark the market again. 

 

I think the best part about this card will be the non reference power delivery.  Personally my cards end up with water blocks anyways so the "non reference cooler" really isnt a big deal, but for these chips its alllll about the binning and power delivery! Wouldn't doubt if we see some binned chips that will reach speeds of 1800+ mhz on air cooling.