Windows 10 Event

[Gr0egercesg]

I just received an email from the Windows Insider Program which sheds light on the events happening tomorrow/2 days time.

 

Starting at 

9.00 PST January 21st

17:00 GMT 

12:00 EST (noon)

 

The reveal of the current Windows 10 Build

 

An On-Demand Version will be available from the link below after the event

 

 

 

 

Here is all the other Details:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/14/live-webcast-details-for-our-windows-10-media-briefing-next-week/

 

And here is where its all going down:

http://news.microsoft.com/windows10story/

[Toddwjp]

windows 10 better be amazing, or a really strong base operating system which can easily have features plugged in

[GoodBytes]

I would sadly be at work, so I won't be covering the event sadly. Maybe a 1-2 posts at best.

Although I'll probably watch it full live.

Windows 10 will be amazing, but as it's Microsoft, people will bash it. As always.

Let's play a game, What will be bashed?

Windows 10 new theme? DirectX 11.3/12? The new web browser (I bet you if you take Chrome, and all they do is change the name to Microsoft, people will say how it is the crummiest web browser)? Or go "Meh, only 1000 new features, not worth my money"

[MrRavens]

I would sadly be at work, so I won't be covering the event sadly. Maybe a 1-2 posts at best.

Although I'll probably watch it full live.

Windows 10 will be amazing, but as it's Microsoft, people will bash it. As always.

Let's play a game, What will be bashed?

Windows 10 new theme? DirectX 11.3/12? The new web browser (I bet you if you take Chrome, and all they do is change the name to Microsoft, people will say how it is the crummiest web browser)? Or go "Meh, only 1000 new features, not worth my money"

Hmm? I don't see people bashing Microsoft that much. Other than their game store and vista, as well as windows 8 early on. And I guess internet explore still gets bashed haha, but that's an internet joke by this point.

Hopefully the OS greatness cycle is still in effect.

[dalekphalm]

Hmm? I don't see people bashing Microsoft that much. Other than their game store and vista, as well as windows 8 early on. And I guess internet explore still gets bashed haha, but that's an internet joke by this point.

Hopefully the OS greatness cycle is still in effect.

I assume you are a younger member, simply because you don't seem to be up to date on your Computing History. I apologize ahead of time if that assumption is incorrect.

 

However, the "OS greatness cycle", as you so eloquently put it... was never in effect.

 

Windows XP sucked on release. It fucking sucked hard. It was one of the worst OS's ever put out by Microsoft on release. It was incredibly slow, bogged down, had horrible driver support, and most importantly, it was a buggy piece of shit.

 

People have this weird "rose tinted glasses" thing with Windows XP - especially here on LTT. XP wasn't awesome until SP2 really, and it wasn't until SP3 that really solidified it as one of Microsoft's best OS's.

 

So can we please stop this false stereotype of "Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS"? It's simply not true.

 

Take Vista for example. (Almost) Everyone hates Vista. However, Vista SP2 is actually a great OS. All the major bugs were squashed, and it was made very stable by then. But people still trash-talk it to this day, despite the fact that it essentially mirrored Windows XP in terms of usability and bugs.

 

Weird, isn't it?

[GoodBytes]

Yup.

XP was mostly horrible as they rushed the release. It was only ~1 year in development. Windows 2000 was released in 2000. XP in 2001.

And Windows 98 was not great either. It was buggy, plagued with BSODs, and horrible memory management. Microsoft got the pass a bit, as this the where most people started to get a computer, and they thought it was computer limitation, and well, there wasn't really much other better options either at the time. But regardless, it wasn't great as people making it up to be. Windows 95 trash was on the start menu, and task bar, and the high computer specs needed. The few people that had computers at the time, had 386 or low end 486, and that was not sufficient to run Windows 95 which was designed, much like Vista, for next gen hardware, which existed at release, but wasn't cheap. It made people run upgrade their HDD's, RAM, and/or computer.

One of the things that Windows XP was based for was the Start Menu, the new start menu. People said it was too big, difficult to use, and well, just insert all the Windows 8 complains as they are nearly identical. Funny enough, Vista start menu was also bashed, even though it's virtually the same as Windows XP, and actually a bit smaller, as they wanted 6 years ago. Windows 7 came out, and now people are super happy with the Start menu, even though it was left unchanged from Vista. But it was the task bar. People called the Windows 7 task an exact replica of MacOS X (funny how this was untrue, and this is what happens, like most people do, look at screen shots only and assume).

Microsoft presents the Game folder, and Saved Game folder to try and help the PC gaming... everyone ignores and avoid that, and say how Microsoft did nothing in past 10 days in PC gaming, while Microsoft was happy that people would complain to devs and stop dumping saved games at random location for every games, let alone dumb all it's stuff in "My Documents" folder, when instead the Saved Game folder could be used, oh yeas, and this "Temp" folder.

And I go on. People hated Aero. Now people loves it, and demand Windows 10 to have it.

[Guest]

Let's play a game, What will be bashed?

Windows 10 new theme? DirectX 11.3/12? The new web browser (I bet you if you take Chrome, and all they do is change the name to Microsoft, people will say how it is the crummiest web browser)? Or go "Meh, only 1000 new features, not worth my money"

I have no problem with Microsoft, I just find Windows to feel like a more basic feeling, less optimized OS compared to some others. I am excited for DX12 beyond imagination, and I'll be sticking with Firefox anyway. 

[Victorious Secret]

I would sadly be at work, so I won't be covering the event sadly. Maybe a 1-2 posts at best.

Although I'll probably watch it full live.

Windows 10 will be amazing, but as it's Microsoft, people will bash it. As always.

Let's play a game, What will be bashed?

Windows 10 new theme? DirectX 11.3/12? The new web browser (I bet you if you take Chrome, and all they do is change the name to Microsoft, people will say how it is the crummiest web browser)? Or go "Meh, only 1000 new features, not worth my money"

 

You know what, I think I'll cover the event in the way that only I (and few others on this forum) are capable of. One mega thread, all the information from the day. Clutter down the reposts and pointless threads, I'm sure everyone would appreciate it. 

 

I assume you are a younger member, simply because you don't seem to be up to date on your Computing History. I apologize ahead of time if that assumption is incorrect.

 

However, the "OS greatness cycle", as you so eloquently put it... was never in effect.

 

Windows XP sucked on release. It fucking sucked hard. It was one of the worst OS's ever put out by Microsoft on release. It was incredibly slow, bogged down, had horrible driver support, and most importantly, it was a buggy piece of shit.

 

People have this weird "rose tinted glasses" thing with Windows XP - especially here on LTT. XP wasn't awesome until SP2 really, and it wasn't until SP3 that really solidified it as one of Microsoft's best OS's.

 

So can we please stop this false stereotype of "Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS"? It's simply not true.

 

Take Vista for example. (Almost) Everyone hates Vista. However, Vista SP2 is actually a great OS. All the major bugs were squashed, and it was made very stable by then. But people still trash-talk it to this day, despite the fact that it essentially mirrored Windows XP in terms of usability and bugs.

 

Weird, isn't it?

 

Weird indeed. People have such pathetic rose tinted glasses when it comes to OSs. XP sucked balls on release. Vista sucked balls on release. 7 sucked less balls on release. 8 was actually a positive step (okay, maybe I'm biased since I was using 8 for so long before release, unlike the others). 

People jerk off to XP like its the holy child. Not really. Vista SP2 was very solid as well. You know all the people saying "Why do I need Windows 8.1, Windows 7 is just fine?" Guess what children, I can say the same thing using Vista SP2. Vista SP2 was just fine, why did I need Windows 7? HUH? What do you think about that, kids? 

 

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK! (insert image of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson here) 

Its the same over on the OS X side of things. The guys over on /r/Apple draw wood over how great Snow Leapord was and how every OS X since was crap. Umm...they were are crap on release. It isn't till a few versions into the main release that things get stable. But hey, don't let me use logic and all that stuff when it comes to this forum, of all places. 

You'd think that the so called "we are better than most people because we like tech so much" mentality here would lead to people actually using their brains and not jumping on tired horses. 

[Master Disaster]

Wow, a thread that has rational internet users who are posting accurate information.

This thread = HL3 confirmed.

Seriously though its good yo see a few users actually posting accurate info about past OSes. True story, I upgraded from Vista to 7 and tried to give my mum Vista for her PC. She said she didn't want it cause her workmates said its shit, I told her they were wrong but she wouldn't have it. I couldn't even give Vista away.

[Phillyphries]

Windows 8 was great by all means. Change is much appreciated sometimes. Windows was due for a huge refresh in the way we use computers. Windows 8 was a good first step.

 

I can see Windows 10 finally making the Windows platform suitable for all devices across the board. Windows Phone 10 for example, will probably be amazing as well.

[bcredeur97]

the operating system that comes default with the OS that most people use will ALWAYS be more vulnerable than alternative browsers, as it is the biggest, easiest target for someone malicious to aim for.

 

So from this, we can concurr that the new internet explorer, whatever it may be called will still not be desirable.

[LAwLz]

Windows 10 will be amazing, but as it's Microsoft, people will bash it. As always.

Well that goes both ways. Windows 10 can be the biggest turd in history, leading to house fires and exploding computers, and some people would still call it the greatest thing ever.

 

I think the dev preview seemed promising, but I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft fucks it up somehow. I really want some of the new things because they are just flat out better than 7, and 7 has a few annoying bugs (like it automatically adds some languages to the Alt + Shift rotation from time to time) so I really want 10 to be good.

 

 

 

 

the operating system that comes default with the OS that most people use will ALWAYS be more vulnerable than alternative browsers, as it is the biggest, easiest target for someone malicious to aim for.

 

So from this, we can concurr that the new internet explorer, whatever it may be called will still not be desirable.

Don't quote me on this, but I recall Internet Explorer fairing pretty well against the competition in terms of security.

There are a ton of reasons why IE is terrible, but I don't think security is one of them.

[Dabombinable]

I assume you are a younger member, simply because you don't seem to be up to date on your Computing History. I apologize ahead of time if that assumption is incorrect.

 

However, the "OS greatness cycle", as you so eloquently put it... was never in effect.

 

Windows XP sucked on release. It fucking sucked hard. It was one of the worst OS's ever put out by Microsoft on release. It was incredibly slow, bogged down, had horrible driver support, and most importantly, it was a buggy piece of shit.

 

People have this weird "rose tinted glasses" thing with Windows XP - especially here on LTT. XP wasn't awesome until SP2 really, and it wasn't until SP3 that really solidified it as one of Microsoft's best OS's.

 

So can we please stop this false stereotype of "Good OS, Bad OS, Good OS, Bad OS"? It's simply not true.

 

Take Vista for example. (Almost) Everyone hates Vista. However, Vista SP2 is actually a great OS. All the major bugs were squashed, and it was made very stable by then. But people still trash-talk it to this day, despite the fact that it essentially mirrored Windows XP in terms of usability and bugs.

 

Weird, isn't it?

I only started using XP after service pack 3. I always go to a new OS after its been through a service pack or 2, just to be sure its got most of the bugs fixed.

[GoodBytes]

Hmm no. I think it will be bashed, but this time genuinely.

Windows is not perfect, it has bugs, it has issues. So is MacOS and Linux. You can't please everyone either. A massive challenge.

I expect some users also fail to install Windows 10 properly or have issues, like every new Windows, as you can't get the billions of hardware configuration working.

I mean what happens is a hardware manufacture makes a driver for their card and works great, but that is all based on a bug on the previous version of Windows, and now that is fixed, it no longer works, and the manufacture, as the the hardware is now old, doesn't care about supporting. It sure sucks. I had this. But that is life. You find work around, or change the hardware and pick a different manufacture who, hopefully provide better support. They are also some decision I don't agree with.

My point in my post is not saying that Windows 10 is perfect, and if anyone says something bad about it, he is just a hater or something. They are genuine complaints, and their are silly complaints. I know I am not expressing myself right, but I think you understand.

Basically, what I trying to say, is that there is:

-> "I don't like this, because it does this and that, and not this and that. It has bugs, here are some bugs I found. It hempers the experience my experience. Microsoft should do this and that, I beleive"

And

-> "OMG, the background! Forget it. Windows 7 for life!!! The background in Windows 10 is ugly. Microsoft should give up and release Windows 7 all over again or XP, that was the BEST OS EVAR!!!1111. OMG look at this.. just right now, I found on the web someone with an error.. Windows 10 is crap."

But, so far, as you said, Windows 10 is going the right direction, and things are coming in the

[ionbasa]

It would be during my electricity and magnetism class, and then during my multivariable calculus class. Looks as if I will be missing out on all the fun.

[Darkman]

Honestly think this will be the Windows OS I've been waiting for to get off of 7. I just can't stand using 8.1, but 10 looks appealing to me.

[shujin]

I'll try watching that at work and I hope there will be great news ^^

[mr moose]

I also think what a lot of people tend to forget to is that when windows is released, it is one OS that has been designed as best as possible to work with a multitude of unknown system configurations.  The law of averages dictates that a percentage of people will have problems with the initial release of 10 because of this alone.  People who had hardware that is bordering on obsolete, software that hasn't been updated in 5 years, 10 year old legacy stuff that relies on 3rd party support apps etc. are likely to experience the most problems.  

[Doobeedoo]

I expect Windows 10 to be better overall. Compromise not acceptable, performance, features, core improvements, legacy. It'll be interesting to see what they show.

[PerfectTemplar]

Looking forward to this, won't watch livestream though as it's at 4 am my time.

[Briggsy]

I'm hoping 10 will be compelling enough for me to upgrade from 7. I think Microsoft have done a lot this time around, not just PR wise but also in reaching out to their customers and making the OS for them, not some software engineers who think they know whats best for the user experience. So far things are looking good.

[Opcode]

@GoodBytes You're boasting Windows way too much dude. It's a fine platform in its own respects but you make it sound like the best operating system there is by trying to rule out any and all negativity or criticism towards it. It's a great gaming platform but otherwise it's really a clunky pile of insecure steaming shit. That doesn't mean I hate Windows it just means it's not as good as you portray it as. I myself have been waiting for Windows 10 launch so I can install it full time (switching back from Linux for Battlefield 3). Tho it's certainly not the "operating system of operating systems".

[Dabombinable]

@GoodBytes You're boasting Windows way too much dude. It's a fine platform in its own respects but you make it sound like the best operating system there is by trying to rule out any and all negativity or criticism towards it. It's a great gaming platform but otherwise it's really a clunky pile of insecure steaming shit. That doesn't mean I hate Windows it just means it's not as good as you portray it as. I myself have been waiting for Windows 10 launch so I can install it full time (switching back from Linux for Battlefield 3). Tho it's certainly not the "operating system of operating systems".

I quite literally only use windows for gaming, everything else is done on a Linux distro where possible (I try a different distro every few months to see what I'd prefer to use).

[Silver]

If I have any hopes for Windows 10, they're that it's free. I also hope they fix the networking, I've had pretty major problems with that in 8 and 8.1. But I'm overall pretty excited for Windows 10. The new snap features are pretty great, and it'll make managing 4 windows on a monitor much, much easier. Not too big a fan of the snap prediction, but I'll just hope they'll let you turn that off.

My only turn off for Windows 10 is the start menu. I've been using StartIsBack on Windows 8.1, and it's much nicer than the start menu in Windows 10, because you can actually edit the files (something that seems, shockingly, to be missing in Windows 10), and you can press WinKey, Right arrow, enter to quickly shut down or put the computer to sleep. No such luck in Windows 10, because of the way the shutdown menu works. It basically requires the use of the mouse.

And I really couldn't care less about Cortana.

[GoodBytes]

Yes. Networking needs some work.

I am annoyed that when I try to access a computer from another one, I either don't see the computer listed after it scans, or I see it, but when I access it, it says it can't, but then if I wait several minutes, it works, or do \\<Computer name> then it works on both cases.

 

And I don't understand why it loves sharing by default "Users" folder.

 

Home networking, for me, in Windows always been an issue.