Acer announcing 1440p 144Hz Gsync monitor with IPS (Update: Reviewed)

[Cedimedi]

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-g-sync-worlds-first-144hz-ips-monitor-unveiled

only 4ms G2G, ULMB, coming february

this is awesome.

[felixthemaster1]

I would so buy this if it didn't have Gsync

[ClakeyD]

Oh the input lag on this is going to be obscene... IPS is not built to do these kinds of frame rates. I'm VERY cautiously optimistic...

 

imb4 25ms input

[Gnrl Kitty]

[Faa]

imb4 25ms input

There's no input lag on them.. Plenty of IPS panels on uk.hardware.info came out as 0 ms.

[Optimus Prime]

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-g-sync-worlds-first-144hz-ips-monitor-unveiled

only 4ms G2G, ULMB, coming february

this is awesome.

 

 

Holy shit, Can't wait until Prad and Blur Busters get their hands on it

[dalekphalm]

imb4 25ms input

 

 

There's no input lag on them.. Plenty of IPS panels on uk.hardware.info came out as 0 ms.

This isn't even a true ISP panel, in the sense that it's not the same base technology. This is an AU Optronics AHVA panel (Which has nothing to do with VA panels). It's very similar to IPS, and has similar beneficial characteristics to ISP. But the technology in AHVA has only been in one panel in the past so we're not 100% sure what negative characteristics the AHVA panel can have.

 

So far, input lag seems to be minimal.

[DIV1D3]

Still waiting for a 4K 144Hz 1ms IPS equivalent. 

Oh and also the R11 495X4 to actually run 4K at >120 fps. 

[Faa]

This isn't even a true ISP panel, in the sense that it's not the same base technology. This is an AU Optronics AHVA panel (Which has nothing to do with VA panels). It's very similar to IPS, and has similar beneficial characteristics to ISP. But the technology in AHVA has only been in one panel in the past so we're not 100% sure what negative characteristics the AHVA panel can have.

 

So far, input lag seems to be minimal.

Not the same base technology? What does make a panel "IPS"? When you use the technique "inplane switching", AHVA does use Inplane switching technology so it's an IPS panel.

What is AHVA?

Yet another proprietary "IPS-like" panel type that offers similar performance to PLS. Developed by AUO, AHVA is short for Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle. The acronym can be slightly confusing as AHVA technology will sometimes be mixed up with Vertical Alignment (VA, see below) even though it makes use of In-Plane Switching (IPS).

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php

[dalekphalm]

Not the same base technology? What does make a panel "IPS"? When you use the technique "inplane switching", AHVA does use Inplane switching technology so it's an IPS panel.

What is AHVA?

Yet another proprietary "IPS-like" panel type that offers similar performance to PLS. Developed by AUO, AHVA is short for Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle. The acronym can be slightly confusing as AHVA technology will sometimes be mixed up with Vertical Alignment (VA, see below) even though it makes use of In-Plane Switching (IPS).

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php

Interesting, that's the first link/article I've ever seen that's explicitly stated that AHVA uses in-pane switching. Basically everything else I've seen calls it "IPS-Like", and does not give any insight into the design and engineering behind it.

 

If it's built using in-pane switching, then why does AU Optronics (among everyone else) call it "IPS-like"? Why don't they call it "AHVA-IPS" or something else entirely?

[Fahrenheit]

Long as nothing crazy comes up with the XB270HU it will be my next monitor.

[bomerr]

Well with the Titan II and the R9 390X incoming, a pair of either of those should drive 1440p at 120+Hz on high settings easily, even if you can't get anti-aliassing and stay that high.

 

That's just stupid. I wouldn't spend over 1k on graphic cards just to drive a puny 1440p display at over 100fps when I could go 4k 60 fps+ instead. 

 

 

imb4 25ms input

 

most input lag is caused by the software processing and not the pane technology.

 

good IPS only has a 1 frame worse response time than TN. 

[pix-]

Ok so they improved their tehnology and did something amazing, but only hardware inovations from acer. Design is just ... worst than originals, pg278q and samsung smart tv's.

 

So this will make XL2420G more overpriced shit than now. 

[patrickjp93]

That's just stupid. I wouldn't spend over 1k on graphic cards just to drive a puny 1440p display at over 100fps when I could go 4k 60 fps+ instead.

most input lag is caused by the software processing and not the pane technology.

good IPS only has a 1 frame worse response time than TN.

1440p is not exactly puny. It's still double the pixels of 1080p. Besides, why bother with 4K until it's truly ready with a display cable that supports > 60fps?

[Faa]

Interesting, that's the first link/article I've ever seen that's explicitly stated that AHVA uses in-pane switching. Basically everything else I've seen calls it "IPS-Like", and does not give any insight into the design and engineering behind it.

 

If it's built using in-pane switching, then why does AU Optronics (among everyone else) call it "IPS-like"? Why don't they call it "AHVA-IPS" or something else entirely?

Here's why;

PLS; While strictly not an IPS panel variant, we have included PLS in this section since it is IPS-like in character and performance.

AHVA; Again while not strictly an IPS panel variant, we have left AHVA in this section as it is designed as an "IPS-mode" technology. Introduced first at the end of 2012 this technology is designed by AU Optronics as another alternative to IPS.

Imo, it's just bad wording..

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/content/panel_technologies_content.htm#ips

 

[Recon97]

I will buy this monitor.

[silenthill_69]

hay hold on guys this is the first attempt of AV panel at 144 hz so it's probably going to be full of problems like the first attempt of any tech (remember the first 4k monitors) so everyone needs to calm down lets wait for the reviews first I'd recommend TFT CENTRAL : http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg278q.htm they have very good experts on panel technology . 

[bomerr]

1440p is not exactly puny. It's still double the pixels of 1080p. Besides, why bother with 4K until it's truly ready with a display cable that supports > 60fps?

I have a 1440p display and single GTX 980 will drive a properly optimized game at 60+ fps Ultra right now. 60 v 96 fps on my 1440p monitor is very negligible. So it'd be crazy for me to spend another 600 dollars on a GPU just to play all the games that already work perfectly at more FPS. Especially when the biggest factor in gameplay isn't high FPS but smooth stable FPS. 

 

I really think 120/144hz displays are mostly marketing hype for the uniformed shopper. When frames get past 60 fps we increase resolution. It's what we have been doing for decades now.  It's crazy to spend this much money on a 1440p panel for marginally higher refresh rate vs. a 4k panel. 

[cesrai]

Free-sync FTW.

[creativename]

*faints* As a current ROG Swift owner.... Well SHIT

gaming on the ROG swift is still going to be alot smoother.

[bomerr]

-snip-

You are just butt hurt about spending 700 dollars on a ROG swift and 4k IPS panels are already cheaper than that. 

[cooperb21]

£600... so only 1000$.... ill wait for price to drop to at least 600 or less.

[KenixKill96]

Wow that looks amazing!

[dalekphalm]

I find it really funny that some members are expecting or hoping this to be cheaper than the ROG Swift... IPS is considered a premium panel type (Even though it's technically AHVA). It has better colour and viewing angles. If they've actually managed to get it to 144 Hz w/ good response times and low input lag, then damn.

 

OF COURSE it's going to be the same price as the ROG Swift. Or even more expensive. Both are G-Sync, so you're not saving that $100-150 that an AdaptiveSync monitor might.

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1440P is the sweet spot.

4K is just too much for a monitor. I really wish they released this a year ago.

I also wish it was 3D capable since I play in 3D only now...

 

Looks nice, I don't really like red but oh well.