GTX 980 has 2048 CUDA cores, not 1920

[Admire]

2048 cuda cores should equal the performance of 27xx kepler cores in 1st generation maxwell and 2867 kepler cores in 2nd generation maxwell... Not impressed if Nvidia does this... I'd rather see a 970ti. If there is 2560 cores on the die and only releases 2048, nvidia would have pulled a HUGE DICK MOVE ON THEIR PART.

 

 

Well AMD would need 20nm to make anything better then what they have.

 

 

I really get what you mean and I hate milking too, but this makes sense for Nvidia.....Why should they show their hand?

 

Want a big upgrade too, but I doubt we will get you.

 

 

Will have to buy a 980, no matter what. im without a GPU at the moment and there isn't much sense in buying a 780:P

[miyabwah]

That's about 3.2x the performance of a GTX 750 Ti.

750 Ti = 640 Cuda Cores

(allegedly GTX 980 specs) : 2048 Cuda Cores

2048/640 = 3.2

3? half life 3 confirmed

according to anandtech bench GPU 14 the 750 ti gets 28.7 FPS on Ultra in BF4.

so in theory a GTX 980 would get 91.9 FPS in BF4.

meanwhile a 780 Ti gets 81.6 FPS in BF4.

[elkenrod]

No more DVI? Sacrilege!

If they want to ditch anything they should be ditching HDMI.

 

The bright side of this paradigm shift is that if it catches on and DVI gets phased out, DVI/VGA/HDMI only monitors should go down in price.

[farhanorakzai]

how does this compare to the gtx 780?

[cubercaleb]

This is why I'm going to wait. I want to see if their is locked parts of the chip.

I wonder if they'll have a GM/GK 210 or a kepler replacement.

MARK MY WORDS

THERE WILL BE A TITAN X.

Pretty sure a Titan X would be two Titan Z's

[GloriousPain]

Titan's would be 3200 cuda cores.

Meh maybe Nvidia's getting cheaper or maybe they're planning the fully unlocked chip to be 980TI or 985 or 1080

 

No more DVI? Sacrilege!

If they want to ditch anything they should be ditching HDMI.

Idk man I prefer HDMI... No annoying locking mechanism, Lower Profile connector, No more damn cheap converters to VGA, and HDMI can carry an audiosignal...

[SpaghettiCarbonara]

~sniiiip~

2048 x 0.35 = 716.8 + 2048 = ~2,764 kepler core performance.

 

Whereabouts did you find that?

[PopReference]

Idk man I prefer HDMI... No annoying locking mechanism, Lower Profile connector, No more damn cheap converters to VGA, and HDMI can carry an audiosignal...

Gonna leave this here for you to watch:

[SMURG]

Idk man I prefer HDMI... No annoying locking mechanism, Lower Profile connector, No more damn cheap converters to VGA, and HDMI can carry an audiosignal...

 

The "annoying" locking mechanism is in fact a functional part of monitor cables since it improves connectivity and prevents accidental loss of connection. You don't have to lock a DVI connector after all, but the option is nice if you're setting something up for a (semi-)permanent basis.

Whilst it's less bulky than DVI I wouldn't call HDMI "low profile", I mean realistically it's going to take up the exact same amount of space in the vast majority of circumstances. DVI is also technically capable of carrying an audio signal I believe, but it was never implemented - which isn't a big deal because who uses the onboard speakers in a monitor anyway?

The simple fact is that DVI is way older than HDMI yet has consistently managed to stay ahead in terms of specification because it was designed with added capacity for the future whereas HDMI was designed for 1080p @ 30Hz. It's also more flexible - DVI can carry analogue signals so it'll work with legacy equipment, without compromising on working with modern equipment since it can carry a digital signal at the same time, and as mentioned has managed to stay ahead of HDMI all this time because it's just better.

That said, DP is obviously superior to both so I am ofc glad to see Nvidia at least replacing DVI with that.

[Heisenbleurgh]

HIGHER NUMBER! BETTER THING!!!!!

[GloriousPain]

Gonna leave this here for you to watch:

Yeah IMHO DisplayPort>HDMI>DVI>VGA ... Do you not know common AV cables? HDMI is 2160p compatible (and gonna gain 60hz with the hdmi 2.0 refresh)  DVI is falling behind with 1600p max, and it's nearly as ancient as VGA to me it's sort of a stepping stone between the two

 

 

/snip

the locking mechanism is just bulky for those who don't use it... Yeah Lowprofile was bad terminology on my part...  Yeah this part sucks and who said anything? about on monitor sound (my monitor actually has  an inmonitor amp compatible with sound through HDMI or DP) between that and my speaker system (which is getting a bit old sadly) I've got pretty good sound and with DVI it's essentially dying at this point it IS legacy ... and idk 1600p 60 hz vs Hdmis 2160p @ 30 60hz (when 2.0 drops) w/ sound and much less bulky connector... it's mostly a matter of opinion but my opinion as that dvi should just die and make way for DisplayPort and HDMI (but mostly display port) 

[Deletive]

Whereabouts did you find that?

the picture you snipped... maxwell cores are 35% better then kepler cores so of course 2048 maxwell cores x 0.35 (35%) should give you the the core count when comparing to kepler.

[TheProfosist]

The "annoying" locking mechanism is in fact a functional part of monitor cables since it improves connectivity and prevents accidental loss of connection. You don't have to lock a DVI connector after all, but the option is nice if you're setting something up for a (semi-)permanent basis.

Whilst it's less bulky than DVI I wouldn't call HDMI "low profile", I mean realistically it's going to take up the exact same amount of space in the vast majority of circumstances. DVI is also technically capable of carrying an audio signal I believe, but it was never implemented - which isn't a big deal because who uses the onboard speakers in a monitor anyway?

The simple fact is that DVI is way older than HDMI yet has consistently managed to stay ahead in terms of specification because it was designed with added capacity for the future whereas HDMI was designed for 1080p @ 30Hz. It's also more flexible - DVI can carry analogue signals so it'll work with legacy equipment, without compromising on working with modern equipment since it can carry a digital signal at the same time, and as mentioned has managed to stay ahead of HDMI all this time because it's just better.

That said, DP is obviously superior to both so I am ofc glad to see Nvidia at least replacing DVI with that.

There are mini and micro HDMI but I really dont like either. There is also mini DVI which is something that should have never happened.

HDMi is roughly half the width of DVI and is thinner but yea I wouldnt consider it "low profile". The DVI spec can not carry audio at all.

HDMI exceeded DVi with 1.4 if not 1.3b. Initial HDMI wasnt even designed for 1080p30 the non high speed rated cable can only do 720p30. Analog DVI really isnt used as its just carrying the signal for VGA in a different pinout and almost always converted to the other cable type. It can not carry digital and analog signals at the same time.

The HDMI spec was never designed for the PC it was designed for the Home Theater and evolved along with that technology.

Youll likely still see DVI-I for quite some time since it can be VGA, DVI, and HDMI with passive adapters. DP can be all of these things but it can only be properly passively adapted to HDMI 1920x1200p60 with stereo audio.

Addition: Also miniDP is pretty solid I just wish it was locking or had a retention mechanism.

[SpaghettiCarbonara]

the picture you snipped... maxwell cores are 35% better then kepler cores so of course 2048 maxwell cores x 0.35 (35%) should give you the the core count when comparing to kepler.

 

Nah I mean where did you find that picture?

[Deletive]

Nah I mean where did you find that picture?

http://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/5-things-you-should-know-about-new-maxwell-gpu-architecture/

[winningsince1337]

What you just said... MEANT NOTHING TO ANY OF US! 

 

By X04 I mean any 04 revision of an architecture IE GK104 and now GM104

 

the Full fledged X10 and (blank)10 chip aka GK 110 and GF110 were the chips people cared about. The lower end chips are like GK104 forgettable as is the 770 which uses it. 

[Deletive]

By X04 I mean any 04 revision of an architecture IE GK104 and now GM104

 

the Full fledged X10 and (blank)10 chip aka GK 110 and GF110 were the chips people cared about. The lower end chips are like GK104 forgettable as is the 770 which uses it. 

I know what you meant. but it wasn't really helpful. we already know this chip isn't their best.

[Khvarrioiren]

Getting pretty excited if these rumours are true. Still kinda worried that we'll be stuck on 28nm for a while.

[SpaghettiCarbonara]

http://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/5-things-you-should-know-about-new-maxwell-gpu-architecture/

 

Ah cheers

 

Keep in mind though, these companies love to puff themselves up. All of them do it, AMD, Nvidia, Intel, all of them. I never really expect anything they say to be accurate, I just go by what the reviewers say.

[randomhkkid]

the picture you snipped... maxwell cores are 35% better then kepler cores so of course 2048 maxwell cores x 0.35 (35%) should give you the the core count when comparing to kepler.

 

What you mean is x1.35 so it's equivalent to 2765 kepler cores vs 2880 for the 780Ti and 2304 for the 780. Of course clockspeeds will be different so it remains to be seen how close the performance will be to the Ti.

[patrickjp93]

No more DVI? Sacrilege!

If they want to ditch anything they should be ditching HDMI.

No, DVI and VGA should both disappear. No more big connectors. HDMI 2.0 is as good as DP 1.3.

[patrickjp93]

Getting pretty excited if these rumours are true. Still kinda worried that we'll be stuck on 28nm for a while.

Again, dumb AMD CEO says 28nm is here to stay for a few years har har!

[Exotath]

970 looks to be more impressive than the 980 imo.

[Deletive]

970 looks to be more impressive than the 980 imo.

^ this

 

 

What you mean is x1.35 so it's equivalent to 2765 kepler cores vs 2880 for the 780Ti and 2304 for the 780. Of course clockspeeds will be different so it remains to be seen how close the performance will be to the Ti.

 

We have yet to see I guess... But maxwell is mainly doing more with less so I guess we could be surprised.

[Khvarrioiren]

Again, dumb AMD CEO says 28nm is here to stay for a few years har har!

 

Great way to misinterpret. Of course they'll stick to 28nm on older SKU's.