LTT Official Folding Month VI

[Mxyzptlk]

2 minutes ago, HoldSquat said:

Ive set my computer to finish it's WUs since we have come to the end of the month and it's almost midnight here! It's been a pleasure to fold with you all and can't wait to actually not miss signup next time!

It’s not over till the 6th

[Mxyzptlk]

So much for Living in Ignorance!!!

 

[RollinLower]

sadly i had to scale down my production aswell, the machines i borrowed from work had to be returned before the end of the month.

I also set my main PC to finish its last WU today and will run the rest of the event on just my main F@H server and a VM on my NAS that's running on 80 threads.

[HoldSquat]

4 minutes ago, TylerD321 said:

Hey now, the event doesn't end until December 6th  

 

3 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

It’s not over till the 6th

THE 6TH??? Well NVM LETS FOLD ON!!!

[Imakuni]

15 minutes ago, TylerD321 said:

Hey now, the event doesn't end until December 6th  

Me, having just installed a new OS onto the SSD I got from black fraud

[Alex Atkin UK]

1 hour ago, Mxyzptlk said:

So much for Living in Ignorance!!!

 

Is that all?

 

You know we did keep telling you to stop.

[sazrocks]

Calling in some reinforcements for these last few days of the folding month...

[TheLANguy]

2 hours ago, Mxyzptlk said:

So much for Living in Ignorance!!!

 

Could be worse...

[GOTSpectrum]

Alright guys, I'm a little behind schedule but we are on it, and by we I mean me cause we flying solo tonight 

 

[soccermomisqueen]

28 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Alright guys, I'm a little behind schedule but we are on it, and by we I mean me cause we flying solo tonight 

 

I think it is time for ME to get some extra sleep this time (though you should definitely get some extra as well with your extra COVID run-in), I had to read that no less than 5 times for me to not jumble the words into some magical word soup.

[soccermomisqueen]

3 hours ago, Imakuni said:

Me, having just installed a new OS onto the SSD I got from black fraud

Grrrrrrr... this just reminds me of my responsibilities involving reinstalling my Linux operating system to upgrade Debian from 11 to 12 (my servers are all running 12, and my poor laptop is currently on 11 despite being the most powerful system in my home)...

[GOTSpectrum]

2 minutes ago, soccermomisqueen said:

I think it is time for ME to get some extra sleep this time (though you should definitely get some extra as well with your extra COVID run-in), I had to read that no less than 5 times for me to not jumble the words into some magical word soup.

sweet dreams

[Alex Atkin UK]

13 minutes ago, soccermomisqueen said:

Grrrrrrr... this just reminds me of my responsibilities involving reinstalling my Linux operating system to upgrade Debian from 11 to 12 (my servers are all running 12, and my poor laptop is currently on 11 despite being the most powerful system in my home)...

This is why for home use I stick to Fedora.  I upgraded several of my machines yesterday and the only caveat was the NVIDIA driver broke so I had manually run depmod to fix it.  I didn't do a clean install for about 5 years on my home server and only then because I built a new system with NVME when I was using SATA before.

The only problem with that was Foldbox2 refused to boot until I added nomodeset=1, then depmod and reboot - which meant hooking up a monitor.  Of course once you've isolated the issue with one box, the others are a lot easier to deal with.

 

I finally relented and ordered an AURGA Viewer which will hopefully make this less of a hassle.  Remote servers ironically would be easier as I wouldn't need to use the GPU in graphical mode to begin with, plus KVM/IPMI.

[GOTSpectrum]

 

[dogwitch]

well i did not move in rank. but i had to call isp and demand a tech. internet been worst now after getting  replacement gateway

i had both pc not getting any work due to  Internet issue.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Just now, dogwitch said:

well i did not move in rank. but i had to call isp and demand a tech. internet been worst now after getting  replacement gateway

i had both pc not getting any work due to  Internet issue.

That's when it really sucks, when you have everything sat there ready and no connectivity.

 

I do everything I can to avoid that with 5G failover, though its possible if it was an actual fibre break it could take both out as they both presumably go back to the same telephone exchange though taking slightly different routes.

[SpaceRazor]

i was looking at folding.lar.systems and the CPU numbers don't make sense to me. Does anyone know why the 12600k shows nearly 6 million PPD, more than all other CPUs and most GPUs as well?

 

[soccermomisqueen]

6 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

This is why for home use I stick to Fedora.  I upgraded several of my machines yesterday and the only caveat was the NVIDIA driver broke so I had manually run depmod to fix it.  I didn't do a clean install for about 5 years on my home server and only then because I built a new system with NVME when I was using SATA before.

The only problem with that was Foldbox2 refused to boot until I added nomodeset=1, then depmod and reboot - which meant hooking up a monitor.  Of course once you've isolated the issue with one box, the others are a lot easier to deal with.

I would go with another operating system, but I just enjoy the (relative) stability of Debian with it still being a debian-based (duh) operating system. it is also nice to have the EXACT same packages available on my laptop for development purposes before I screw something up on my server that may be actively serving requests for clients (I have had one too many things mentioning that something broke due to me being an idiot) XD

The only problem I have ever had with the NVIDIA drivers have been when I did not use the ones from the Debian repos, and the installer yelled at me (then my OS said "you little $#!T, dont use the one from NVIDIA, use ours that will get updated in a few months.").

6 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I finally relented and ordered an AURGA Viewer which will hopefully make this less of a hassle.  Remote servers ironically would be easier as I wouldn't need to use the GPU in graphical mode to begin with, plus KVM/IPMI.

The push came from having Ubuntu 16.04 installed on a couple of servers, and I wanted my operating system to not be as bloated (and less advertising built in), especially since one is a Core 2 DUO, and another is a 4-gen Core i5.

 

The AUGRA viewer seems really cool and sort of reminds me of the wireless GTX 460 that was looked at on LTT (video link: https://youtu.be/_cLsK2YZwDU), just without the GPU... the most comparable thing to it is probably the PiKVM though...

[soccermomisqueen]

6 minutes ago, SpaceRazor said:

i was looking at folding.lar.systems and the CPU numbers don't make sense to me. Does anyone know why the 12600k shows nearly 6 million PPD, more than all other CPUs and most GPUs as well?

 

Looking at the details page for the 12600k, it is either the servers (and/or clients) had a brain fart and used the GPU and CPU combined numbers, or the CPUs that were used for the numbers just hit a massive batch of workloads that were perfectly optimized for CPU folding since the top 4 in the ranking chart are the only ones that are above the "average performance of the CPU"

 

 

Another thing that is interesting as well is that the CPU folding times are very low and seem to be very GPU-like (I am basing that off of a i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz taking about 8 hours on 8 cores to complete 1 WU).

[dogwitch]

1 hour ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

That's when it really sucks, when you have everything sat there ready and no connectivity.

 

I do everything I can to avoid that with 5G failover, though its possible if it was an actual fibre break it could take both out as they both presumably go back to the same telephone exchange though taking slightly different routes.

yeah i have a 5g hot spot data like 100gb a year worth. per year it refill really slow.

after the hurricane last year i empty it  all out i had saved up with my roll over data.(cell phone provider)

i mean i did get ride of 1 bad wire that was a issue in my  home network. i also found out 1 device cannot take any erroe what so ever in data(that also been taken off ).

every other wiring and the gate way itself are working correctly.

i pay for 800 mb plan  and getting 89 mb odd hours and even worst in peak hours.

[da na]

Been messing around with some old ATi Catalyst drivers lately, many of them actually have an option to install F@H right from the driver installer. Pretty neat!

[Captainmarino]

9 minutes ago, da na said:

Been messing around with some old ATi Catalyst drivers lately, many of them actually have an option to install F@H right from the driver installer. Pretty neat!

Oh my god! I forgot all about that! I used to run ATI back in the day and remember seeing that. It stuck with me because I used to run SETI@Home back in college. Anyone else?

[ObeliskAG]

As the November 30th numbers are in, and as I'm not even part of the event, I'm finishing up on 3 of 4 systems. I'm happy with today's sprint, although I did observe some Fallout 76 and Genshin Impact daily's going on, that have hurt my results:

It's been fun folding with the big dogs for a couple of days. (Points Today, #14 on the team.)

 

My goal on Saturday was to get back into the team top 1,500, but if I keep my main PC Folding, I can probably make it into the team top 1,000 within the next 3 days.

 

A takeaway from this experience is that the Ryzen 7950X3D seem to fold at a very high and consistent frequency. The 5950X and 5900X frequencies appear to bounce around a lot. The 3800X seems stable enough, just with a much lower clock speed. Quite surprising to see just how much more Folding grunt a RTX 3080 Ti (10,240 shaders) has over a RTX 3080 (8,704 shaders), given how you don't see a comparable uplift in gaming FPS. However, the 4070 Ti seems to be the big winner for Folding efficiency.

 

As I sit here, my electrical rate is CAD $0.141 per kWh, high enough to not maintain today's sprint level (~48 kWh for the day) for any significant amount of time. For the hard core Folders here who don't have your own solar power system, your ongoing financial commitment to Folding must be considerable

 

Happy Folding!

[TheLANguy]

Strange 1/30 days folding? It looks like the active days folding reset.

[dogwitch]

aiming at end of event to have hit 750 million points total.