Dont you guys have fiber..?

[suicidalfranco]

44 minutes ago, Vishera said:

I will give them the benefit of doubt, maybe they are playing the original from 2009 and not the reboot.

this was when the original came out, so it is the original MW2 from 2009. And Steam group was about boycotting MW2 for not including dedicated servers, and those players were part of the group, and that was how far they stood for the cause.

[suicidalfranco]

36 minutes ago, Heliian said:

10k for the hardware and 5k/month for usage for the Starlink maritime system.  There isn't much option on the open seas. 

And the result is better than most.

The only time I've been on an offshore rig that could boast about its internet speed, was on the North Sea a rig not too far from Norway. how they did it? the simply extended an underwater fiber optic cable from shore to rig. top speed i downloaded in that rig was 800MBps

[Vishera]

1 hour ago, suicidalfranco said:

this was when the original came out, so it is the original MW2 from 2009. And Steam group was about boycotting MW2 for not including dedicated servers, and those players were part of the group, and that was how far they stood for the cause.

I get your point, but now there are unofficial dedicated servers for that game.

[Just that Mario]

So... what's the point of the post? OP just crying he has shitty internet in the middle of nowhere on a container ship and cannot play call of duty? k.

[Biohazard777]

12 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

So... what's the point of the post? OP just crying he has shitty internet in the middle of nowhere on a container ship and cannot play call of duty? k.

What is the point of your reply, to belittle the OP?

[Just that Mario]

13 minutes ago, Biohazard777 said:

What is the point of your reply, to belittle the OP?

To ask what is the point of the post. OP didn't have a question nor any thoughts on the "issue". They literally complained that a new AAA game is 150 GB in size and that he has garbage connectivity on a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean. They mention that watching a low resolution video uses up entire bandwidth, yet they are expecting to play competitive AAA FPS? What's their point? What's the "topic" they're trying to discuss? COD? Size of the game? Their garbage connectivity? The cargo ship? What are their expectations?
 

[IkeaGnome]

6 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

To ask what is the point of the post. OP didn't have a question nor any thoughts on the "issue". They literally complained that a new AAA game is 150 GB in size and that he has garbage connectivity on a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean. They mention that watching a low resolution video uses up entire bandwidth, yet they are expecting to play competitive AAA FPS? What's their point? What's the "topic" they're trying to discuss? COD? Size of the game? Their garbage connectivity? The cargo ship? What are their expectations?
 

Why does it have to only be one of those they are complaining about? Where I work we have fiber, but we have too many people on that internet connection. I've seen people have to take 3 or 4 days to download a normal size game, let alone an Activision sized game.

0700 and 1900 when people are getting off work, it struggles to keep up with YouTube at 360p.

7 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

yet they are expecting to play competitive AAA FPS?

weird that they might think they could possibly play the story part of the game isn't it?

[Just that Mario]

Just now, IkeaGnome said:

Why does it have to only be one of those they are complaining about? Where I work we have fiber, but we have too many people on that internet connection. I've seen people have to take 3 or 4 days to download a normal size game, let alone an Activision sized game.

0700 and 1900 when people are getting off work, it struggles to keep up with YouTube at 360p.

weird that they might think they could possibly play the story part of the game isn't it?

If your organisation's internet cannot playback 360p video, where ever you will find such resolution video, then your organisation is possibly not operating at all. That's most obviously a made up story. WOW, cannot play a video game in middle of nowhere. Who would've thought? It's not like there are other games out there besides COD. It really is Activision's fault they don't provide the buyers with the hardware required to play the video game.

[IkeaGnome]

1 minute ago, Just that Mario said:

If your organisation's internet cannot playback 360p video, where ever you will find such resolution video, then your organisation is possibly not operating at all. That's most obviously a made up story. WOW, cannot play a video game in middle of nowhere. Who would've thought? It's not like there are other games out there besides COD. It really is Activision's fault they don't provide the buyers with the hardware required to play the video game.

What would you suggest for 300+ people trying to watch Youtube, porn and video call with their families all at once?

Spoiler

But you know, because you've never worked a remote rotation job, they don't exist. 

When the internet is set up to prioritize critical communication, medics office, work computers, paste plant, mill, it must be shit internet right?

[Just that Mario]

5 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

What would you suggest for 300+ people trying to watch Youtube, porn and video call with their families all at once?

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But you know, because you've never worked a remote rotation job, they don't exist. 

When the internet is set up to prioritize critical communication, medics office, work computers, paste plant, mill, it must be shit internet right?

Good job counter arguing yourself within a single post.

[IkeaGnome]

1 minute ago, Just that Mario said:

Good job counter arguing yourself within a single post.

Care to explain?

[Biohazard777]

29 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

OP didn't have a question nor any thoughts on the "issue".

Contradicts:

Spoiler

20 hours ago, Jehova said:

My thoughts

 I guess a lot of people dont care. For some, however, this is a huge problem. I sail container ships, and on these ships we have extremely limited internet. So limited, in fact, that if you stream video on YouTube, noone else on the ship can WhatsApp family and friends. So you dont, of course. And you especially dont hijack the entire connection for the month or so it would take to download COD. It is too bad, though, since console gaming was a thing on board that people could really enjoy together. These days we cant buy any games, because even single-player only experiences requires exceptionally large downloads with no way around it. And I get it. We're a microscopic part of a very large consumer segment. It just sucks that we cant enjoy one of those little reminders of home when we are thousands of miles from home for long periods of time.

Heck, it even contradicts your next few sentences:

Spoiler

29 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

They literally complained that a new AAA game is 150 GB in size and that he has garbage connectivity on a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean. They mention that watching a low resolution video uses up entire bandwidth, yet they are expecting to play competitive AAA FPS? What's their point? What's the "topic" they're trying to discuss? COD? Size of the game? Their garbage connectivity? The cargo ship? What are their expectations?

 

16 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

If your organisation's internet cannot playback 360p video, where ever you will find such resolution video, then your organisation is possibly not operating at all. That's most obviously a made up story. 

Have you ever worked on a cargo ship, or at least know people that work on cargo ships?

You've never walked a mile in their shoes but you sure are quick to judge, belittle and call them liars...
Extremely narrow and entitled point of view.
 

16 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

It really is Activision's fault they don't provide the buyers with the hardware required to play the video game.

Why are they selling the disks? What is the point? 

Why should a consumer have to check if the game he/she bought a physical copy of will work or not without an internet connection or on a very limited connection?
The solution is quite simple, sell the game digitally only.
Or if the company plans on selling physical copies, then put something functional on those disks... like SP that the new CoD game has.

[Just that Mario]

12 minutes ago, Biohazard777 said:

Heck, it even contradicts your next few sentences:

Actually it doesn't because the word "issue" was in quotes, as in there really wasn't a specific issue brought out. Whilst, yes, OP did have thoughts, he didn't mention once what the actual issue for him was. Was it that COD requires internet connectivity or that his internet is bad or was it that the game is large in its installation size?

 

14 minutes ago, Biohazard777 said:

Have you ever worked on a cargo ship, or at least know people that work on cargo ships?

You've never walked a mile in their shoes but you sure are quick to judge, belittle and call them liars...
Extremely narrow and entitled point of view.

Have you? You seem to make assumptions about me and my experience without knowing me. Not to mention you're taking it out of context. What I replied to was a person commenting how 300+ workers that seemingly require internet for work cannot have a reliable internet connection. At that point the organisation clearly isn't operational, it's barely limping. It's equivalent of a company offering painting services only having five brushes and five rollers, whilst having 100 employees on painting duties.

 

17 minutes ago, Biohazard777 said:

Why should a consumer have to check if the game he/she bought a physical copy of will work or not without an internet connection or on a very limited connection?

Wow, why should consumer make sure whatever they're trying to consume can or even should be consumed. I mean... I guess you're one of those people that need big red labeling to not eat Tide Pods. Holy sh*t...

 

25 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Care to explain?

You're literally arguing how somehow in a remote environment you should be able to play video games and consume other digital goods via internet, whilst stating that internet at those environments actually isn't even meant for those activities in the first place.

 

35 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

What would you suggest for 300+ people trying to watch Youtube, porn and video call with their families all at once?

??? What are you even asking/what are you counter arguing with this?

 

37 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

When the internet is set up to prioritize critical communication, medics office, work computers, paste plant, mill, it must be shit internet right?

Internet can be shit no matter what it is intended for or its location. As you said yourself that internet in such environments is setup for critical communication. Since when is playing video games critical communication? Again, what's your argument here? OPs the one crying he cannot play COD in remote environment and blaming the internet and/or Activison/game industry for it.

[dilpickle]

21 hours ago, Jehova said:

Summary

 

 So I guess the days of not-online gaming is officially over - in case anyone had not yet noticed. According to an article from TechSpot, COD: MW2 will contain just 170mb on the disc, and will require a 150gb download to play.

 

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My thoughts

 I guess a lot of people dont care. For some, however, this is a huge problem. I sail container ships, and on these ships we have extremely limited internet. So limited, in fact, that if you stream video on YouTube, noone else on the ship can WhatsApp family and friends. So you dont, of course. And you especially dont hijack the entire connection for the month or so it would take to download COD. It is too bad, though, since console gaming was a thing on board that people could really enjoy together. These days we cant buy any games, because even single-player only experiences requires exceptionally large downloads with no way around it. And I get it. We're a microscopic part of a very large consumer segment. It just sucks that we cant enjoy one of those little reminders of home when we are thousands of miles from home for long periods of time.

 

Sources

https://www.polygon.com/23426462/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-disk-install-size-data-download

So download it before you leave? I don't see what is so difficult about this. 

[IkeaGnome]

35 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

You're literally arguing how somehow in a remote environment you should be able to play video games and consume other digital goods via internet

Seems like you're assuming we work 24 hours a day, 14 days straight. Not 12 hour days for 14 days straight. We shouldn't be able to do anything on our time off out here?

35 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

??? What are you even asking/what are you counter arguing with this?

If you're saying the internet is shit and the company is barely holding on, but you know more than we do obviously. So what internet plan would you recommend? I didn't think that question was very hard to understand.

Spoiler

 

35 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

Since when is playing video games critical communication?

I didn't say video games were critical communication. In our case, the mine's internet prioritizes work flow. Same as on a boat. OP is annoyed that games that come on disks need patches from day one as large as they do it seems. Come winter time we'll be without internet off and on for most of it. Sat phones are what keep outside communication going and bulk uploads when internet is up. 

Since you seem to know all about what internet should be where. Care to explain how we get our internet to be more steady and capable to not appear as a 

35 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

At that point the organisation clearly isn't operational, it's barely limping.

company?

35 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

whilst stating that internet at those environments actually isn't even meant for those activities in the first place.

I did not say we should be able to download and play video games out here. As for "critical communication" what you view as critical is not what everyone views as critical. Porn as a whole used to be blocked on all internet out here. Personal devices included. Until we had a contract company threaten to pull their contract and walk off the job because their guys couldn't watch porn at night. Took them walking off the job, skipping out on a couple's day pay, in a mini strike before that got lifted. But you know. None of that other stuff could possibly be critical in time off out here.

Something goes wrong with your card details getting stolen on your way to work? Fuck it. Go home without money or a card because you couldn't see what was going on. Obviously that isn't critical.

One of your family members ends up in hospital? Obviously not critical if we ask you. 

[Holmes108]

56 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

 

Wow, why should consumer make sure whatever they're trying to consume can or even should be consumed. I mean... I guess you're one of those people that need big red labeling to not eat Tide Pods. Holy sh*t...

 

 

A consumer should second guess that a disc that supposedly has a single player campaign on it is actually essentially empty and useless? That's supposed to be the big benefit of physical media! You're a real piece of work man. Don't know why this guys concerns (however niche they may be) has really gotten under your skin.

 

[Biohazard777]

2 hours ago, Just that Mario said:

Have you? You seem to make assumptions about me and my experience without knowing me. Not to mention you're taking it out of context. What I replied to was a person commenting how 300+ workers that seemingly require internet for work cannot have a reliable internet connection. At that point the organisation clearly isn't operational, it's barely limping. It's equivalent of a company offering painting services only having five brushes and five rollers, whilst having 100 employees on painting duties.

One of my good friends is a deck officer and does 3 month cargo ship tours, we usually have drinks when he gets back. Even though I personally haven't been in that situation I've learned a lot about that life from him, and I can empathize with him and his living / working conditions.

 

As for taking it out of context, nah the context stayed the same you just shifted focus on yet another field of work you have no clue about and decided you know better and should take a dump there as well.
 

Oh and I assure you, I know a lot more about you than you know about me. And I'll keep it at that, kool? 

But even if I didn't, just reading your replies paints a very clear picture.

 

2 hours ago, Just that Mario said:

Wow, why should consumer make sure whatever they're trying to consume can or even should be consumed. I mean... I guess you're one of those people that need big red labeling to not eat Tide Pods. Holy sh*t...

Funny, for now, once it stops being funny to me it will stop being funny to you as well. 
As for why, is that a joke also or do you seriously need an explanation?

[Neroon]

23 hours ago, StDragon said:

Right, which is why you should be downloading all your games when docked, and have BMR backups going to another drive. Otherwise, you could wait for Starlink as that will revolutionize the maritime industry.

Yeah I was thinking Starlink, surely that should work.

[FlappyBoobs]

32 minutes ago, Neroon said:

Yeah I was thinking Starlink, surely that should work.

Starlink isn't currently fully working. At the moment it is acting like a relay between an on shore base station and the dish. So it requires you to be stationary. It used to be locked to one static area, but you can get it for RVs in some countries. So it's improving.

 

 

As for ships, you are currently limited to very close to shore locations, but once the satalites are all up and communicating with each other you'll be able to get it out in the middle of the Atlantic.

[Slave2school]

16 minutes ago, FlappyBoobs said:

Starlink isn't currently fully working. At the moment it is acting like a relay between an on shore base station and the dish. So it requires you to be stationary. It used to be locked to one static area, but you can get it for RVs in some countries. So it's improving.

 

 

As for ships, you are currently limited to very close to shore locations, but once the satalites are all up and communicating with each other you'll be able to get it out in the middle of the Atlantic.

It 100 percent works in motion with an RV Antenna. It simply voids the warranty with the current equipment and might not be legal in your jurisdiction.

[demonix00]

22 hours ago, dizmo said:

50GB is still 1/3 of the amount of storage you'd need, it isn't gonna help

You do know that blu-rays can have more then 2 layers, right?

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, demonix00 said:

You do know that blu-rays can have more then 2 layers, right?

 

Yes. And? Still not enough.

[Forbidden Wafer]

6 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yes. And? Still not enough.

100 GB per disk is fantastic. Too bad it isn't marketed for backups (EDIT: I mean, it is, but is super expensive here. You could get a IronWolf 4TB for the same price of 5 disks).

[dizmo]

5 minutes ago, Forbidden Wafer said:

100 GB per disk is fantastic. Too bad it isn't marketed for backups (EDIT: I mean, it is, but is super expensive here. You could get a IronWolf 4TB for the same price of 5 disks).

Wouldn't it just make more sense to use HDDs though? They're the same price (a pack of 10 discs is $61 on B&H).

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

22 hours ago, Erioch said:

Even if the entire game was on the disk, you couldn't play until it patched the entire game anyway.

 

And those almost always failed at like disk 17 with Abort, Retry, Fail which meant you were screwed.

Better yet. Loose one of the disks inevitably and you're likewise also screwed.