AMD have improved performance with OpenGL up to 55%.

[Unedited_Mind]

 

Summary

 

 

So for anyone in the know, when we describe AMD's performance with OpenGL we are met with "Just use Vulkan", this however dismisses games such as Wolfenstein: The New Order or anyone wanting to do PS2 emulation with the most accurate emulation, since PCSX2 now relies heavily on OpenGL.

 

 

 

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After giving a major performance boost in the DirectX 11 API, AMD seems to be gearing up to deliver a similar boost to OpenGL applications with the upcoming Windows 11 22H2 GPU driver aimed at Radeon graphics solutions.

 

My thoughts

I personally I am ecstatic that I can now consider buying Radeon again because for the money they are often better value and if it means solid performance in PCSX2 and games that use OpenGL, I am much more pushed to consider team red now.

 

Sources

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-gpus-opengl-windows-11-22h2-drivers-signficant-graphics-performance-boost/

[StephanTW]

shame they gave up on updating the r9 290, this would have been nice to have as a free boost

[BiotechBen]

Might just try Dolphin again. Ran "mostly" smoothly before on my 480, excited to see if it improves to happily playable

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

16 minutes ago, StephanTW said:

shame they gave up on updating the r9 290, this would have been nice to have as a free boost

I weirdly miss the 2xx series Radeon cards. For no real reason, I just liked them.

[Orcblood]

29 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I weirdly miss the 2xx series Radeon cards. For no real reason, I just liked them.

The 290 Sapphire Vapor X blue. I got it used and eventually sold it but still one of my favorite cards. Matter of fact I know I've brought this up before on this forum.

[BachChain]

1 hour ago, Unedited_Mind said:

since PCSX2 now relies heavily on OpenGL

Besides the DX11 backend that has been there for years, PCSX2 has recently gotten both a DX12 and Vulkan renderer.

[Unedited_Mind]

29 minutes ago, BachChain said:

Besides the DX11 backend that has been there for years, PCSX2 has recently gotten both a DX12 and Vulkan renderer.

Not officially. No release.

https://pcsx2.net/

 

And by the way the DX11 backend is inferior to the OpenGL one.

[BachChain]

31 minutes ago, Unedited_Mind said:

Not officially. No release.

You really shouldn't use stable releases. Not only are they years out of date, but they tend to be less - uhh - stable. Dolphin stopped doing them entirely when they realized it wasn't worth the effort.

[BiG StroOnZ]

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[Crunchy Dragon]

5 hours ago, Orcblood said:

The 290 Sapphire Vapor X blue. I got it used and eventually sold it but still one of my favorite cards. Matter of fact I know I've brought this up before on this forum.

That was a beautiful card. Sapphire had some special ones, pity they never made Nvidia cards.

[xAcid9]

7 hours ago, Unedited_Mind said:

What am i looking at here? After the "55%" improvement in OpenGL, Radeon OpenGL performance is 70% behind DX11? Wut?

[KaitouX]

9 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

What am i looking at here? After the "55%" improvement in OpenGL, Radeon OpenGL performance is 70% behind DX11? Wut?

It seems like they forgot to post the other images:

 

Unigine Valley:

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Unigine Superposition:

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Unigine Heaven(apparently had a performance regression):

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[Unedited_Mind]

It seems people don't know what links are too which was provided.

[grayperview]

I have tried these drivers, Valley went from 90fps to 107fps on my 5700XT, and Wolfenstein new order was smoother than the older drivers, still capped at 60fps. 

[SeriousDad69]

Good job Radeon! It only took you 12+ years!

[Quackers101]

nvm, nice.

[thechinchinsong]

10 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That was a beautiful card. Sapphire had some special ones, pity they never made Nvidia cards.

I'm still sad they don't make vapor x models anymore. Their current lineup is decent, but I really liked their 200 series designs.

[leadeater]

4 hours ago, Unedited_Mind said:

It seems people don't know what links are too which was provided.

Well it would be more useful to provide before and after of the same test and graphics API with the performance increase being talked about 

[Ytuns]

Decades late, and old cards are not even get the performance benefit because they were dropped from drivers updates.

[Brooksie359]

21 hours ago, StephanTW said:

shame they gave up on updating the r9 290, this would have been nice to have as a free boost

Doesn't the 290 have a super similar architecture as the 300 series? Couldn't you use the same fix for both?

[Doobeedoo]

I mean cool though.

I still hope we see games with DX12/Vulkan only, so many devs slack.

[leadeater]

44 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Doesn't the 290 have a super similar architecture as the 300 series? Couldn't you use the same fix for both?

Not similar, near the exact same. R9 300 series were just refreshes of the R9 200 series. Only real noteworthy change was the 380/380X got bumped from GCN1 to GCN3, otherwise everything else stayed mostly the same like the 390 & 290 cards were both still GCN2.

[Brooksie359]

59 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Not similar, near the exact same. R9 300 series were just refreshes of the R9 200 series. Only real noteworthy change was the 380/380X got bumped from GCN1 to GCN3, otherwise everything else stayed mostly the same like the 390 & 290 cards were both still GCN2.

Then wouldn't they be able to easily make this fix for the r9 290 as well?

[leadeater]

30 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Then wouldn't they be able to easily make this fix for the r9 290 as well?

I don't know, can the new driver not actually be installed with a 290? I still have my 290's but too lazy to try lol

[thechinchinsong]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

I don't know, can the new driver not actually be installed with a 290? I still have my 290's but too lazy to try lol

1 hour ago, Brooksie359 said:

Then wouldn't they be able to easily make this fix for the r9 290 as well?

Wasn't it possible for 290 to be able to be flashed with 390 Bios? Or was that some other set of AMD cards? 390 -> 390x? 290 -> 290x? or 480 -> 580? I can't believe I forgot.