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Depends game to game but MOST are not RAM bandwidth limited and tuning timings usually is the go to...

Shadow of the Tombraider FPS does increase with Bandwidth, but many others see small gains hardly noticible.

 

I have 3200C14 OC at 4300C17, +15GB/s read/write and is 44ns down to 38ns (Intel) but even on Ryzen id go for 3600-3800 and lower timings myself...

 

Id chase lower timings with relatively high speed but try to get the best of both worlds..

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Depends on the case. Usually SFX power supply, sometimes the slightly longer SFX-L will also fit. Some smaller cases require FlexATX PSUs.

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Moved to CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory. Please check which subforum you are posting in. Your other thread about power supplies was also posted in the graphics card section, neither have anything to do with GPUs.

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23 minutes ago, Gabin said:

This is the case

You can use a regular ATX PSU for that, BUT...that being said...may I suggest you look for a better case? Sure it looks nice but much like the NZXT H510 ariflow is gonna be pretty bad. Perhaps opt for a case that has mesh in front so it can actually take in fresh air?

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1 hour ago, Gabin said:

This is the case.

Lmao, this abomination is not a Mini-iTX case, it's an mATX case without the possibility of using mATX board ... Any ATX PSU will fit.

Tag or quote me so i see your reply

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Capacity doesn't matter as long as you have enough. If you don't fully utilize 16GB, then having 32GB does absolutely nothing for you.

 

That said, 3600MHz is better than 4400MHz here because of Ryzen's infinity fabric. It should run 1:1 with the RAM, and you're not getting the FCLK any higher than 1933MHz even with the most golden of golden 3600s. That means the absolute maximum RAM speed that would make sense is 3800MHz or 4000MHz downclocked slightly. There's no guarantee that you could run the FCLK over 1800MHz, though, which is why 3600MHz is the most commonly recommended speed for Ryzen. Anything higher is a dice roll.

 

As for timings, 3600MHz CL16 is easily available at the same cost as CL18, so you should go for CL16.

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On 6/16/2021 at 12:05 AM, Gabin said:

Is it better to have 16gb of ram with a ddr4 4400 and 19 latency or 32gb of ram with ddr4 3600 and 18 latency. I have a ryzen 5 3600. 
what would be better? 

3600mhz. 4400 is overkill and will probably make your system less stable. 3600 will probably feel smoother when actually using your pc.

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are a dual gtx 730 better than one gtx 980 ti?

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No. 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

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Even when the software support and perfectly scale 2x or even 4x 730s, it can't reach 980 Ti performance. 

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lol no

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a gt730 is waaaaayyyyy less than half the performance of a 980ti, so even if you had 100% scaling, you would still be way behind.

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Hi I am building a new pc for myself and I need a gpu. I will take pretty much any decent gpu no matter how old, I am on a $200 budget for my gpu. i am crurently looking/hoping for a gtx 980 ti since there the only old but are somewhat good.

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Thanks for your help 

 

Also need Gaming equipment, but don’t have any money for it so I will take any free gaming stuff like old keyboards and old mice anything helps.

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We do not allow trades outside of the Classifieds section, which you are not eligible to participate in yet. We do not allow begging.

 

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Is a quadro m2000 better than a gtx 980 ti for cad?

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Im not a CAD or Quadro expert but the 980ti will probably run laps around that card

 

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1 minute ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

Im not a CAD or Quadro expert but the 980ti will probably run laps around that card

Nope. It won't 'run circles' around the m2000, which has double floating point performance. On paper the Quadro k2200 that I use is 10% weaker than a Rx 460, but it performs noticeably better in CAD applications such as Cinema 4D, Unity, Blender, and Solidworks.

 

If @Gabin needs CUDA cores and compute performance, go 980ti. If he needs better CAD rendering performance, go m2000.

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35 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Nope. It won't 'run circles' around the m2000, which has double floating point performance. On paper the Quadro k2200 that I use is 10% weaker than a Rx 460, but it performs noticeably better in CAD applications such as Cinema 4D, Unity, Blender, and Solidworks.

 

If @Gabin needs CUDA cores and compute performance, go 980ti. If he needs better CAD rendering performance, go m2000.

Interesting. Learn something new every day 🙂

 

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What is the best cpu to go with a titan Z gpu?

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For what use

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22 minutes ago, Gabin said:

What is the best cpu to go with a titan Z gpu?

The use is for cad and occasionally gaming 

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1 hour ago, WereCat said:

for what purpose? 

Cad and occasional gaming like Minecraft and csgo 

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22 minutes ago, Gabin said:

Cad and occasional gaming like Minecraft and csgo 

Ryzen 5 5600X seems good enough for that. 5800X if you want extra cores. 

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