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I’m am looking for a gpu to finish my pc and would like to know if a FirePro w8000 is worth it. I found one for 250 and was wondering if I should save up to buy a nvidia quadro p2000 or just yolo and buy a FirePro w800. I am mainly going to use cad and some lite games like Minecraft.

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Quadro P2000 should perform slightly better than FirePro W8000 in games, but not in professional workloads. it's essentially a cutdown 1060 vs R9 280. Plus the Quadro is also more power efficient than the aging 28 nm GCN 1. Also be aware GCN 1 cards will lose driver support soon, while the Pascal Quadro should last a while.

25 minutes ago, Gabin said:

I am mainly going to use cad and some lite games like Minecraft.

If that's the case, use your iGPU as an interim solution (if available) and save up for better card or just wait for the price to come down. Neither buying an overpriced Quadro or a end-of-life FirePro is a good option.

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17 minutes ago, SkyHound0202 said:

Quadro P2000 should perform slightly better than FirePro W8000 in games, but not in professional workloads. it's essentially a cutdown 1060 vs R9 280. Plus the Quadro is also more power efficient than the aging 28 nm GCN 1. Also be aware GCN 1 cards will lose driver support soon, while the Pascal Quadro should last a while.

If that's the case, use your iGPU as an interim solution (if available) and save up for better card or just wait for the price to come down. Neither buying an overpriced Quadro or a end-of-life FirePro is a good option.

Well what gpu should I get then? My processor doesn’t have igpu 

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11 hours ago, Gabin said:

Well what gpu should I get then? My processor doesn’t have igpu 

Nvidia simply has better support overall for professional applications. But for card you really don't need a good gpu and either is far overkill. I mean a simple gt 1030 (its stupid expensive now not a good option) would be totally fine.

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17 hours ago, Gabin said:

I’m am looking for a gpu to finish my pc and would like to know if a FirePro w8000 is worth it. I found one for 250 and was wondering if I should save up to buy a nvidia quadro p2000 or just yolo and buy a FirePro w800. I am mainly going to use cad and some lite games like Minecraft.

Look for a used workstation, I scooped a Quadro p4000 for effectively only $4-500 by buying an aging rendering server. Also wasn't Quadro p2200 the same prices as p2000 but slightly better?

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The integrated GPU is 3 times better than the old GPU. An even better option is an AMD CPU with integrated Vega 11, 10 or 8 graphics (the higher the better). The Vega 11 is 3 times better than  the intel iGPU in the 10600k.

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The integrated should be way better. Intel's 10th gen cpus has had a big reputation for it's iGPUs . The graphics card has 256 mb vram, you would be lagging even in 720p. 

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In that case the iGPU will definitely be better.

 

Aside from raw performance, you won't be able to play (or even launch) anything recent-ish with a meager 256 MB of VRAM and the card isn't supported by modern drivers either (no official Windows 10 support).

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Depends on the "old" GPU. Pretty much anything under a 1030 is going to be beat by the iGPU, so yeah, the card you have is not worth it.

 

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10 minutes ago, wavem2 said:

The P2000 wipes the floor with the RX 550 according to TechPowerUp.
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Yep the p2000 wipes the floor with the RX 560 for that matter and almost wipes the floor with the RX 470.

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How are you getting a P2000 for that price? Let me know lol

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i bought a PNY nvidia Quadro P2000 GPU Graphics Card 5GB Stream but i dont know if it works with my mobo. the mobo i bought is a GIGABYTE B460M DS3H V2. how can i check if there compatiable? there both pci-e*16 but on my mobo it says it has a pci-e 3.0*16 and for the gpu it just says  pci-e*16. is that fine?

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16 minutes ago, Gabin said:

there both pci-e*16 but on my mobo it says it has a pci-e 3.0*16 and for the gpu it just says  pci-e*16. is that fine?

Yeah, as long as it both says the same lane amount and the physical slot is wide enough, itll be fine. The CPU and chipset will handle the lane and generation application.

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i bought a PNY nvidia Quadro P2000 GPU Graphics Card 5GB Stream but i dont know if it works with my mobo.

1. Why wouldn't it? Yes, PCIE connectors are compatible with PCIE slots.

2. Why would you buy it before knowing if it was compatible?

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