F@H Web Client Dark Skin with PPD comparison by GPU / WU

[LAR_Systems]

Hi all, quick update for today!

 

For those that have not found it already, information on the site for GPUs now shows the average PPD and the separate Windows & Linux PPD averages with this more detailed information also being send to the web client so the WU Reward indicators are more fair based on the OS you're running.

The web client has also had the default Start / Stop functionality stripped in favor or direct buttons that just do what you expect them to without the popup window first.

For users running F@H 7.6.14 or higher this also adds a dedicated Finish button in addition to changing the start / stop to "Fold / Pause".

If you are below F@H 7.6.14 you will only see the fold and pause button as finish is not supported before this or was broke by F@H updates at some point.

These updates should trickle out to your clients over the next 24 hours or so.

Cheers,

[marknd59]

@LAR_Systems You need to update the badge requirements to the new ones or get them to give a Diamond Badge .

 

[TVwazhere]

[A-J-M]

At FAH, they are playing with the stats https://github.com/FoldingCommunity/fah-stats-front-end/ and making a new stats page: https://statsbeta.foldingathome.org/

And somehow it seems to break the Dark extension (total points and team), at least for non LTT members, albeit the standard Web Control is not affected. 

[LAR_Systems]

1 hour ago, A-J-M said:

At FAH, they are playing with the stats https://github.com/FoldingCommunity/fah-stats-front-end/ and making a new stats page: https://statsbeta.foldingathome.org/

And somehow it seems to break the Dark extension (total points and team), at least for non LTT members, albeit the standard Web Control is not affected. 

A patch has already been pushed to account for their changes Monday morning.
When they did their initial update on the weekend they broke the stats / user API URLs for both clients. 

We applied a hotfix to get around the issue fixing it in the dark mode extension, looks like they have restored the originals finally.

You need to update the extension to version 1.1.4. to see the update.   Cheers

[IceBoneBadger]

@LAR_Systems Found out about this extension during the most recent folding event. Absolutely love it. Thanks very much.

[marknd59]

Not sure if this is a problem or not but I'm getting a "not enough data samples" message for P13452. I myself have done 52 of them in the last few days but I don't know how many samples you need to have them in the database.

 

[LAR_Systems]

On 6/6/2021 at 3:43 AM, marknd59 said:

Not sure if this is a problem or not but I'm getting a "not enough data samples" message for P13452. I myself have done 52 of them in the last few days but I don't know how many samples you need to have them in the database.

 

I saw this, the issue is the project throws a 404 on their API, like they were handing out work units but did not add it to the project list, so I can't get the ID, to store the data correctly, once F@H ads it' to the DB for the API, my end will pick it up and associate all the back data.   It's why their project description window does not load as well.

[Justaphf]

EDIT: n/m, seems to be updating again!

 

Is the GPU database not updating?  I haven't seen stats updates since Tuesday morning.  I don't recall the update frequency but I thought it was at least once a day.

 

Spoiler

 

[LAR_Systems]

On 6/24/2021 at 9:38 AM, Justaphf said:

EDIT: n/m, seems to be updating again!

 

Is the GPU database not updating?  I haven't seen stats updates since Tuesday morning.  I don't recall the update frequency but I thought it was at least once a day.

 

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You were right to call it out, the publishing service was stuck.   Thanks for letting me know.

[marknd59]

Me and some others are having a problem with F@H in the dark. It just stopped working. It lost the LTT skin and is just sitting with everything saying loading.

 

@LAR_Systems can you take alook at this problem please. thanks.

 

[LAR_Systems]

On 7/26/2021 at 8:52 AM, marknd59 said:

Me and some others are having a problem with F@H in the dark. It just stopped working. It lost the LTT skin and is just sitting with everything saying loading.

 

@LAR_Systems can you take alook at this problem please. thanks.

 

I'm hoping you will find it back online now.

 

Looks like something changed on server/browser communication, made a couple changes and loos like its running for me.

 

You might need to clear browser caches to see it go right away.

 

Cheers,

[marknd59]

1 hour ago, LAR_Systems said:

I'm hoping you will find it back online now.

 

Looks like something changed on server/browser communication, made a couple changes and loos like its running for me.

 

You might need to clear browser caches to see it go right away.

 

Cheers,

Yes it's working again. Thanks

[marknd59]

@LAR_Systems I've started to get this error again.

 

 

EDITED - 

I don't know if you did anything but it started to work again.

[LAR_Systems]

2 hours ago, marknd59 said:

@LAR_Systems I've started to get this error again.

 

 

EDITED - 

I don't know if you did anything but it started to work again.

Power outage for the API server today... good times.  Back up now. 

[pursual]

Not trying to hijack this thread, but have been unable to contact the developer of FAHintheDark. The info@folding.lar.systems email address couldn't be reached.

 

Original message:

 

I just ran across your gpu rankings and chrome extension. Cool!

The GPU rankings seem to be off...multiple listings for the same card type (gtx 1070 for example), and cards that are obviously lower being ranked higher,
I have a GTX 1070 and see nowhere near the ppd that you have listed. I get ~350k max. I also can never get any info on the little WU graphs in the chrome extension. 

 

[LAR_Systems]

On 9/2/2021 at 2:02 PM, pursual said:

Not trying to hijack this thread, but have been unable to contact the developer of FAHintheDark. The info@folding.lar.systems email address couldn't be reached.

 

Original message:

 

I just ran across your gpu rankings and chrome extension. Cool!

The GPU rankings seem to be off...multiple listings for the same card type (gtx 1070 for example), and cards that are obviously lower being ranked higher,
I have a GTX 1070 and see nowhere near the ppd that you have listed. I get ~350k max. I also can never get any info on the little WU graphs in the chrome extension. 

 

Hi,

There are multiple 1070s and other GPUs with duplicate records because they will be slight variations on the model as identified by F@H client (and shown under the card name) so the records are kept separate as the different revisions, mobile units etc. behave differently with different firmware/hardware.

 

In terms of the ranks, they are based on real-time data that is collected form users using the extension and are averaged across different work units and projects which have different PPD rewards that can and do change.

 

As for you card reporting low PPD.   The image in your post appears to be broken so can't see what card / issue you are showing... but if you are seeing dramatically lower PPD and you are new to folding you may not have an API key setup which will give you far less PPD than those values reported in the database as they only record PPD values for users with a F@H API key.

Otherwise I would need to see the issue / know what hardware and work unit you are on to review further.

Cheers,

[GOTSpectrum]

18 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

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Thank you for all your hard work LAR!

[LAR_Systems]

On 9/2/2021 at 2:02 PM, pursual said:

I also can never get any info on the little WU graphs in the chrome extension. 

Just as a follow up, some changes have been made to how the charts are implemented for when you toggle them on and off.   The F@H "slot id" id dynamically assigned and the client when you tried only supported up to the number 8... issue is F@H if you add and remove devices in the same session can increment the number to be larger than 8 and then you don't get chart even if there is only one device folding.

So little re-work on the code and now to account for this it can dynamically create charts up to 32 slot IDs for those that end up with the high IDs from trying stuff in the client or if you have a banging system with sooooo many GPUs  

Anyways try it now to see if the charts show,

Cheers,

[Skajaquada]

Hi, first of all many thanks for your great work, i really love your database 
But i have a question, is it possible to see who did the work unit PPD records?
Maybe i just broke the 10 million PPD on a RTX3090 on Linux 
But there was no HFM running on that system, so i can not confirm it by myself...
 

[damric]

Hi. Thank you for this skin! My team has been using the rankings for competitions to set handicaps. It works well, but we require at least 500 submissions to allow hardware into the fold for competition. I have not had any problems feeding your database some baseline data until this past week.

 

The problem card is an AMD FirePro W4100. I started folding on it in dark mode about a week ago. It is not showing a brand name in your database and also has a 404 error code page when you click on the card in your database. I did not have this problem when I fed a W2100 to your database last month.

 

Here is the problem link:

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands//folding_profile/cape_verde_gl_firepro_w4100

 

[damric]

bump

[LAR_Systems]

On 12/18/2021 at 10:58 AM, damric said:

Hi. Thank you for this skin! My team has been using the rankings for competitions to set handicaps. It works well, but we require at least 500 submissions to allow hardware into the fold for competition. I have not had any problems feeding your database some baseline data until this past week.

 

The problem card is an AMD FirePro W4100. I started folding on it in dark mode about a week ago. It is not showing a brand name in your database and also has a 404 error code page when you click on the card in your database. I did not have this problem when I fed a W2100 to your database last month.

 

Here is the problem link:

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands//folding_profile/cape_verde_gl_firepro_w4100

 

Hey there,

Glad you're getting some alternative uses out of the DB and client.

 

I hade a look at the W4100 and it's one of the cases where the AMD identifier for the card just is not set/picked up correctly for non gaming cards.

I have manually set the parameter which should solve the issue ongoing and the profile link once set is this https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands/amd/folding_profile/cape_verde_gl_firepro_w4100

 

Cheers

[damric]

9 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

Hey there,

Glad you're getting some alternative uses out of the DB and client.

 

I hade a look at the W4100 and it's one of the cases where the AMD identifier for the card just is not set/picked up correctly for non gaming cards.

I have manually set the parameter which should solve the issue ongoing and the profile link once set is this https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands/amd/folding_profile/cape_verde_gl_firepro_w4100

 

Cheers

Thank you!!! I wasn't even sure if it was a problem on your end or if I needed to bother the folks on the f@h forum. But yes, over at ExtremeHW.net we are using your client extensively for our Extreme Folding League. You rock!!!

[gunnarre]

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I would need to see a screen shot of the extension window to get the card WU and project information needed to see what's up.

It's possible that there is something going on, or that you're getting new project WUs that don't have enough data for the cards yet.

Thanks, I'll make a screenshot if I see a project which has data for the 1050 Ti listed on the database. My logs show that I've completed 17 WUs from project 17257 on the 1050 Ti in the second slot, all with the chrome extension running. I don't see that project listed in the database. Can you check if my samples even were uploaded?

 

Edit: "GeForce GTX 1050 Ti" is grey and not hyperlinked.

Edit2: My card identifies as "GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti]  2138" with two spaces between "]" and "2138", because that's how it's listed in GPUs.txt. Is that extra space creating problems? I could ask the FAH people to fix it?

@LAR_Systems I was told to use this thread instead. I can post or DM you logs if needed.