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The W stands for Wack - 10th generation Xeon announced

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Still built on the 14nm node however. Reviews will tell how well this competes with Ryzen Pro CPUs and the dozen of ARM enterprise CPUs.

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A product refresh is coming to entry-level workstation builds. Intel today launches its Xeon E-2200 successor named Xeon W-1200. Yes, Intel Xeon product naming is indeed very confusing. The fact that Intel frequently changes the naming schema every few years is not helping here either. Either way, Xeon W-1200 series are now offering up to 10 cores and 20 threads. The flagship model Xeon X-1290P is basically a copy of Intel Core i9-10900K. It adds error-correcting code (EEC) support and also some SKUs are compatible with Intel vPro platform, but some Intel Core processors are included in the vPro lineup as well.

 

Unlike Core series, the new Xeon is divided into 125, 80 and 35W TDP models (Core series also have 95 and 65W SKUs). The “P” models are all 125W, “T” is similar to Core T-Series with 35W TDP, the rest offers 80W TDP. Another change is the naming of the integrated graphics. Intel Xeon W-1200 have UHD P630 graphics instead of just UHD 630 (quite a change is it not?). They all appear to be based on Comet Lake GT2 (with 24 Execution Units). There are no details on the GPU clock speeds yet.

Furthermore, A benchmark for the mobile version has surfaced on 3Dmark

Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-announces-xeon-w-1200-comet-lake-series

Thoughts: 5.3Ghz on a server processor would be fantastic for Minecraft hosting (then again you could do the same on a i7-10700K), but that's really all that I can think of. Sucks for those who bought the i9-9990XE when this just came out in less than a year. Also note that official reviews for the 10th gen desktop CPUs should be coming out within today.

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I like how you are so desperate trying to bash a product by stating "W stands for Wack", when the product isn't even out yet.

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How about a normal title, like I don't know say

Intel 10th Gen Xeon W announced

 

Pricing will be an important factor as to which one to get for a server build, especially for those that need to run a server OS.

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Intel manages to launch another batch of chips that at best make people go: meh

 

Good job Intel

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29 minutes ago, williamcll said:

Sucks for those who bought the i9-9990XE when this just came out in less than a year.

Not even close. The target market for the 9900XE would likely have long made their money back on the purchase. The nearest the announced CPUs get is 10 cores at 4.8 all core turbo, far short of all 14 cores at 5 GHz turbo the 9900XE does.

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1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Intel manages to launch another batch of chips that at best make people go: meh

 

Good job Intel

I'm pretty sure they're losing money by making these chips. 

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only upto 10 cores what is the point of these cpus, any workstation OME will want to provide a higher cor count option so will go with a different socket/chipset. 
 

1 hour ago, williamcll said:

the dozen of ARM enterprise CPUs.

I suppose this is an issue, normally these xeons would be going into industrial control systems right?

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2 minutes ago, hishnash said:

only upto 10 cores what is the point of these cpus, any workstation OME will want to provide a higher cor count option so will go with a different socket/chipset. 

Not every workload requires a million cores. These are effectively the same as the consumer CPUs but with working ECC. So ideal for use for small servers too. These would go against the Ryzen Pro, not Epyc.

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58 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

 

Naw intel deserves to be bashed, Xeon doesn't even have much reason to exist anymore with Zen 2 around

AMD needs more low core count PRO CPUs though. Maybe a specific chipset that supports ECC as well

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22 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

AMD needs more low core count PRO CPUs though. Maybe a specific chipset that supports ECC as well

They all do, it's actually up to the board partner to certify ECC usage. Which on all the gaming boards just isn't a priority but from memory UDIMM ECC works anyway but you just can't be guaranteed if not stated as supported.

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Remember when AMD rehashes Bulldozer for years and years and released the FX9590 with a freaking water cooler bundled and a minimum 220W capable VRM board? Intel have been sitting on Skylake and 14nM for about the same amount of time and yet just now, starting to be edged out in competitiveness. This is like a once in a decade thing! What a time to be alive and following hardware news

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2 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

How about a normal title, like I don't know say

Intel 10th Gen Xeon W announced

No

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1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

Naw intel deserves to be bashed, Xeon doesn't even have much reason to exist anymore with Zen 2 around

AMD needs more low core count PRO CPUs though. Maybe a specific chipset that supports ECC as well

Then AMD needs to be bashed even more for their idiotic marketing.

They do have Pro version of Ryzen with the same core count as the non Pros

https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen-pro

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6 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Naw intel deserves to be bashed, Xeon doesn't even have much reason to exist anymore with Zen 2 around

AMD needs more low core count PRO CPUs though. Maybe a specific chipset that supports ECC as well

So you're advocating for a monopoly of workstation/server CPUs?

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7 minutes ago, Arika S said:

So you're advocating for a monopoly of workstation/server CPUs?

Intel needs to pull itself together completely now, and AMD needs to get everything in order to stay on top

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7 hours ago, porina said:

Not every workload requires a million cores. These are effectively the same as the consumer CPUs but with working ECC. So ideal for use for small servers too. These would go against the Ryzen Pro, not Epyc.

... Which is hilarious, because they should be going against Threadripper

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5 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Then AMD needs to be bashed even more for their idiotic marketing.

They do have Pro version of Ryzen with the same core count as the non Pros

https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen-pro

The pro chips aren't about ECC (though it is fully supported on them vs "it isn't disabled" on the consumer level), they're about other enterprise management and security features.

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3 minutes ago, justpoet said:

The pro chips aren't about ECC (though it is fully supported on them vs "it isn't disabled" on the consumer level), they're about other enterprise management and security features.

Since they are the same core count as their non Pro. I'll rather get one of these Ryzen Pro for the extra security features.

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3 hours ago, Belgarathian said:

... Which is hilarious, because they should be going against Threadripper

it really do be like that sometimes...

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6 hours ago, Belgarathian said:

... Which is hilarious, because they should be going against Threadripper

No, not even close. Different CPUs for different market spaces.

 

The "smaller" Xeon CPUs from this thread would be going against Ryzen Pro.

The "bigger" Xeon CPUs will be going against Epyc.

Threadripper is HEDT space, which is where Cascade Lake-X is sitting right now although not matching the higher core offerings AMD are.

 

 

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16 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Intel manages to launch another batch of chips that at best make people go: meh

 

Good job Intel

It was expected.  It’s been said for some time now that intel can’t even react to Ryzen in a useful way until rocket lake.  Maybe.

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