Diablo 4 Announced !!!

[pas008]

1 minute ago, TheNamelessOne said:

So standing up for human rights is wrong.

Got it.

Do it on your own platform

 

Its a gaming platform isn't it?keep it about gaming?

 

But hey let's go your direction

And make every gaming event human rights/political/etc

Watch viewers drop

People don't watch for that shit 

 

 

 

 

[TheNamelessOne]

1 hour ago, pas008 said:

Do it on your own platform

 

Its a gaming platform isn't it?keep it about gaming?

 

But hey let's go your direction

And make every gaming event human rights/political/etc

Watch viewers drop

People don't watch for that shit 

 

 

 

 

Someone already pointed this out, but I'm going to mention it again because either you didn't see it or you don't want to accept it because you realized accepting it would mean invalidating your whole argument.

Their games are already political. You can not say keep politics out of gaming when Blizzard themselves have their own political agenda implemented in their games. You can try to deny it, but it will just show that you know it's true and refuse to acknowledge it because you won't have anything to stand on anymore if you do admit it.

[Belgarathian]

On 11/2/2019 at 11:02 PM, WereCatf said:

I did quite like Diablo II back during the stone ages and I think Diablo 4 looks interesting. I'll check reviews once it gets released to see if it's worth buying.

Yeah, D2 LOD was great... D3 was disapointing on release but pretty good 2+ years later after they broke a ton of promises and missed deadlines. 

 

Replay-ability was pretty average though with most content driven by seasons and was a massive boring grind-fest.

[pas008]

19 minutes ago, TheNamelessOne said:

Someone already pointed this out, but I'm going to mention it again because either you didn't see it or you don't want to accept it because you realized accepting it would mean invalidating your whole argument.

Their games are already political. You can not say keep politics out of gaming when Blizzard themselves have their own political agenda implemented in their games. You can try to deny it, but it will just show that you know it's true and refuse to acknowledge it because you won't have anything to stand on anymore if you do admit it.

where

oh their agenda they choose on their platform

just like any other site/forum/game/etc

[Unixsystem]

16 minutes ago, pas008 said:

where

oh their agenda they choose on their platform

just like any other site/forum/game/etc

Their company motto is something along the lines of "everyone gets a voice". 

 

If they were apolitical from day one and then banned the guy for being overtly political, that'd be one thing. But they are a very vocal company all about inclusivity and making a difference™ but the moment someone says something that potentially impacts their bottom line they clam up and forget about their claimed morals. 

 

And before you say it, obviously it's their platform and their business and they can do what they want. But that doesn't mean that it isn't massively hypocritical, immoral, and worthy of scrutiny. 

[pas008]

5 minutes ago, Waffles13 said:

Their company motto is something along the lines of "everyone gets a voice". 

 

If they were apolitical from day one and then banned the guy for being overtly political, that'd be one thing. But they are a very vocal company all about inclusivity and making a difference™ but the moment someone says something that potentially impacts their bottom line they clam up and forget about their claimed morals. 

 

And before you say it, obviously it's their platform and their business and they can do what they want. But that doesn't mean that it isn't massively hypocritical, immoral, and worthy of scrutiny. 

blitzchung knew it was wrong

https://www.pcgamer.com/suspended-hearthstone-grandmaster-blitzchung-responds-to-blizzards-statement/

the casters even knew ducking away

 

 

[imreloadin]

Let's be honest here, Blizzard doesn't give two shits about the "West" anymore as the gaming market in China alone dwarfs everywhere else combined so they will NEVER denounce China and will continue to strike down anyone who might hurt their chances there. That is literally WHY they did the whole "well you all have a smartphone" thing, they want to capitalize on developing countries where phones are prevalent but PCs aren't like India. It's their right to decide if they want to die on that hill so I say let them if that's what they choose and stop giving them money if you don't like their practices.

[pas008]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/502694401?t=1h42m42s

 

looks to have account bound items eh hopefully they change that

[realpetertdm]

7 hours ago, pas008 said:

Haha

Blizzcon looked pretty full

Its a gaming platform not political one

 

Vague enough that the casters and blitzchung knew it was wrong

Maybe if you got your head out of your ass for once you would see that

 

Why are we talking about Blizzcon again? I was under the impression that the blitzchung incident happened before Blizzcon. Are you sure you have your dates right?

 

Nobody is doubting that it was wrong. But you still fail to see why people were mad in the first place.

 

This will come back to bite Blizzard back, with their Diablo Immortal fiasco and other things snowballing up. Diablo 4 better be really good (looking at how Blizzard has done in the past year or so, diablo 4 is going to be mediocre at best)

 

[pas008]

1 minute ago, realpetertdm said:

Why are we talking about Blizzcon again? I was under the impression that the blitzchung incident happened before Blizzcon. Are you sure you have your dates right?

 

Nobody is doubting that it was wrong. But you still fail to see why people were mad in the first place.

 

This will come back to bite Blizzard back, with their Diablo Immortal fiasco and other things snowballing up. Diablo 4 better be really good (looking at how Blizzard has done in the past year or so, diablo 4 is going to be mediocre at best)

 

because this happened a month before  blizzcon and it was still packed that logic isnt hard lol

 

obviously people understand that no need for that shit on a gaming platform

 

bite blizz back ow2 already has people ready for that too

 

and fyi diablo immortal will be a game i'll play considering I will check out the storyline

 

 

[realpetertdm]

10 minutes ago, pas008 said:

because this happened a month before  blizzcon and it was still packed that logic isnt hard lol

 

obviously people understand that no need for that shit on a gaming platform

 

bite blizz back ow2 already has people ready for that too

 

and fyi diablo immortal will be a game i'll play considering I will check out the storyline

 

 

No need for politics in gaming, okay you've said this a thousand times. At this point I don't think you're even reading my comments but ok mate you do you. Spamming a sentence doesn't make it have any more value.

 

I don't think people interested in Diablo will be interested in a co-op FPS (which looks strikingly similar to TF2's MVM).

[pas008]

5 minutes ago, realpetertdm said:

No need for politics in gaming, okay you've said this a thousand times. At this point I don't think you're even reading my comments but ok mate you do you. Spamming a sentence doesn't make it have any more value.

 

I don't think people interested in Diablo will be interested in a co-op FPS (which looks strikingly similar to TF2's MVM).

 

but its the point you said bite blizzard

which ow2 and d4 have people all interested even with this blitzchung thing and the so called i'm offended about everything groupies

[spartaman64]

4 hours ago, pas008 said:

where

oh their agenda they choose on their platform

just like any other site/forum/game/etc

like some of their characters being LGBT. also if you think blizzard's decision is only about rules not politics also you should look at this

Quote

We express our strong indignation [or resentment] and condemnation of the events that occurred in the Hearthstone Asia Pacific competition last weekend and absolutely oppose the dissemination of personal political ideas during any events [or games]. The players involved will be banned, and the commentators involved will be immediately terminated from any official business. Also, we will protect [or safeguard] our national dignity [or honor].

from the official hearthstone weibo account. sure the first part just seem like a general company announcement but the "Also, we will protect [or safeguard] our national dignity [or honor]." is rather odd dont you think?

[pas008]

56 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

like some of their characters being LGBT. also if you think blizzard's decision is only about rules not politics also you should look at this

from the official hearthstone weibo account. sure the first part just seem like a general company announcement but the "Also, we will protect [or safeguard] our national dignity [or honor]." is rather odd dont you think?

Their platform

Their agenda

 

You boycotting all the other businesses that do the same?

Its everywhere lol

 

[realpetertdm]

6 hours ago, pas008 said:

 

but its the point you said bite blizzard

which ow2 and d4 have people all interested even with this blitzchung thing and the so called i'm offended about everything groupies

Apparently the news about protestors @ Blizzcon flew past your head? Also people cheering at a conference doesn't mean that game will be a success, or will have people interested post-launch.

 

Effects of an incident aren't instant. It can take months, or years for the incident to finally snowball and come back.

 

Can you please write in better English? Not that I'm trying to be a grammar prick, but commas and periods exist.

[xAcid9]

Is this open world or instances? 

[Spotty]

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[Teddy07]

I am surprised this thread is still open because it devolved into a politics discussion

[Princess Luna]

I've never been into Blizzard games myself, don't really play nor like anything they made but hey it's a popular franchise, if it makes people happy it's getting a whole new game then good for them.

 

I don't think that Blizzard issues regarding their submission to the Chinese government should matter to normal folk just looking for a game to play, life can be simpler without pointless political crusades everywhere and about everything.

[spartaman64]

47 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

I've never been into Blizzard games myself, don't really play nor like anything they made but hey it's a popular franchise, if it makes people happy it's getting a whole new game then good for them.

 

I don't think that Blizzard issues regarding their submission to the Chinese government should matter to normal folk just looking for a game to play, life can be simpler without pointless political crusades everywhere and about everything.

i disagree. you have to draw the line somewhere and maybe this isnt the line for most people and i respect that but unless people want to release companies of all ethical responsibility they should stand up for what they believe even if that means missing out on something they wanted. despite what you say there's probably something that blizzard can do that makes you stop buying their games and that is your line

[Franck]

On 11/2/2019 at 5:00 AM, JuztBe said:

Not even Blizzard Soon TM. So likely 2-4 years till release.

They did say they were about to show the trailer last year but pulled it of at the last minute. So if we go with D3 release it should be 2 years. They did had playable demo on the floor so we could play which happened about 1 year before release on D3. So i'm betting on 2 years, 3 at most

[Jito463]

On 11/2/2019 at 11:06 AM, Yebi said:

I just hope offline-only is a viable way to play. Huge fan of the genre and franchise, huge hater of multiplayer

There's a reason I still haven't played D3.

On 11/2/2019 at 3:11 PM, kpluck said:

I think you are going to have to… (https://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-4-offline-mode/)

Figures.  Guess I'll stick with 1 & 2 if I want my Diablo fix.

 

The issue is, these games are worthless without the servers to log in to.  Blizzard won't exist forever (especially if they keep going like they have been), and even if they don't shut down, there's no guarantee they'll keep the servers on if the game isn't profitable anymore.  On top of that, I don't like the thought of potentially getting server disconnects while I'm playing solo.  Just like Fallout 76 and Diablo 3, this is a hard pass for me.

[pas008]

16 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

i disagree. you have to draw the line somewhere and maybe this isnt the line for most people and i respect that but unless people want to release companies of all ethical responsibility they should stand up for what they believe even if that means missing out on something they wanted. despite what you say there's probably something that blizzard can do that makes you stop buying their games and that is your line

yes stand up for it

but calling them a hypocrite while supporting other companies doing same thing is same thing? irony isnt it

many other companies do worse and are you protesting whats ethically right there?foxconn nike etc etc

we could go into many avenues on this

 

but on topic looks to have soj that gives plus 1 to ranks instead of d2's skills and mounts

[pas008]

24 minutes ago, Tegos said:

 

 

Seriously, which one is it?

seriously what dont you understand

 

their platform their agenda on certain things

happens everywhere

cnn, foxnews, espn, nbc,

even on techsites, intel this, amd that, nvidia hit me with a wiffle ball bat

[spartaman64]

16 minutes ago, pas008 said:

yes stand up for it

but calling them a hypocrite while supporting other companies doing same thing is same thing? irony isnt it

many other companies do worse and are you protesting whats ethically right there?foxconn nike etc etc

we could go into many avenues on this

 

but on topic looks to have soj that gives plus 1 to ranks instead of d2's skills and mounts

i dont understand this viewpoint that unless you are protesting everything thats wrong in the world at once you are a hypocrite and shouldnt be protesting. i think the saying goes dont let the perfect be the enemy of the good.