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So i was scrolling the internet searching for decently speced gaming pc and found a 

i5-8400 with a gtx 1070ti for 1000$ but my parents wont let me buy it because they have the embedded idea in their mind that the i5 is not just bad for gaming but is outright useless and that it cant run any game 

so can some plz give an argument with wich i can convince them to let me buy it

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if they think i5 is useless, ask them get to get you an i9 rig, abuse their ignorance

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They sortoff have a point, but anyway for this budget i really suggest looking at amd (r5 2600 or something) or wait till the summer when zen 2 launches

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I mean you can build a PC thats a little less powerful but still really great for 1080p gaming for ~$600-$700 USD.

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it kind of feels like they want an excuse not to buy you a PC at this time (or maybe they're hardcore AMD fans?) 

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So they don't want to buy you any PC or just not i5?
Your money or theirs?

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I feel as though we're probably not being told the whole picture here
as in their parents might have said something more reasonable but it was translated to this for us to read

 

35 minutes ago, MPenten said:

So they don't want to buy you any PC or just not i5?
Your money or theirs?

if it's their money they should buy op a lawn mower and tell them to go earn the i5. lol

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Why you calling your parents brain-dead? That's very rude. Rather than coming on the internet and insulting them on the internet, go speak to them and tell them correct information. Kids these days are so entitled and spoiled.

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Before coffeelake I would agree, things changed with the i5 8xxxx.

 

The i5 8000 series is super solid as a gaming rig base.

 

I don’t like taking advantage of people but if you can’t change their mind then maybe wait until you find an affordable alternative.

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Maybe they knew this would be better?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $87.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $19.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card $349.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case $79.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $887.72
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $852.72
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-10 15:01 EDT-0400  

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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13 minutes ago, Levent said:

if they think i5 is useless, ask them get to get you an i9 rig, abuse their ignorance

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I'm more willing to bet what happened was you suggested that they buy this machine , but were not able to explain well enough why they should buy it.

I'm expecting that they wanted a compelling argument as to why their 1000$ should be spent in this way , and you didn't deliver. So when they asked something simple like why not an i7 for 1000$ you weren't able to convey why in a way they understood.

If you're going to ask someone for 1000$ you gotta have quite a good explanation and assurance that they are doing the right thing or they aren't going to give you a dime.

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14 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

They sortoff have a point, but anyway for this budget i really suggest looking at amd (r5 2600 or something) or wait till the summer when zen 2 launches

They have no point at all, as Levent said, if one wants to be so stupid, one can simply take advantage of stupidity.

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Maybe they knew this would be better?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $87.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $19.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card $349.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case $79.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $887.72
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $852.72
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-10 15:01 EDT-0400  

 

If they think an i5 is shit my mind is unable to find proper words for what they must think of AMD

 

Imagine an Intel fanboy but 10 times more radical

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Just now, BetterThanLife said:

They have no point at all, as Levent said, if one wants to be so stupid, one can simply take advantage of stupidity.

Taking advantage of parents is not something I agree with, but i meant that I agree with them not letting op buy the pc. I5 is indeed fine for gaming, but i think there are better options for the price

If you're formally an engineer, avoid responsibility. That's what senior engineers get paid for.

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2 minutes ago, BetterThanLife said:

They have no point at all, as Levent said, if one wants to be so stupid, one can simply take advantage of stupidity.

keep in mind , we actually have no idea what they said

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Just now, TheThymo said:

Taking advantage of parents is not something I agree with, but i meant that I agree with them not letting op buy the pc. I5 is indeed fine for gaming, but i think there are better options for the price

Subjective, mine were real abusive people, but for the OP they seem good.

 

In fact yes, morally what i said is messed up, don't take advantage of people, taking advantage of bad people... depends.

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1 minute ago, BetterThanLife said:

Subjective, mine were real abusive people, but for the OP they seem good.

 

In fact yes, morally what i said is messed up, don't take advantage of people, taking advantage of bad people... depends.

Fair enough xD

 

Even if someone is abusive, there is no right in "stealing". Sure, you can use something like this to your advantage, but you cannot misuse it, I think.

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9 hours ago, emosun said:

I'm more willing to bet what happened was you suggested that they buy this machine , but were not able to explain well enough why they should buy it.

I'm expecting that they wanted a compelling argument as to why their 1000$ should be spent in this way , and you didn't deliver. So when they asked something simple like why not an i7 for 1000$ you weren't able to convey why in a way they understood.

If you're going to ask someone for 1000$ you gotta have quite a good explanation and assurance that they are doing the right thing or they aren't going to give you a dime.

1-Well i know that whatever i’m gonna say you guys are not gonna believe it but what really happened is :

i have 600$ in savings and my parents where willing to help pay the rest it was all going well until they asked mu neighbor who sells computers for a living and then he told them that this is not a good build (because of the i5) and that he would find us a better one

 

 

2-The problem with the builds that you guys suggested is that i live in lebanon so the rtx series here cost more that 500$ so this build that i suggested was really good for its price 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Abdul201588 said:

Why you calling your parents brain-dead? That's very rude. Rather than coming on the internet and insulting them on the internet, go speak to them and tell them correct information. Kids these days are so entitled and spoiled.

Yeah you’re right i was just really angry when i was writing this 

i shouldnt have said that

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10 hours ago, Karameloo96 said:

So i was scrolling the internet searching for decently speced gaming pc and found a 

i5-8400 with a gtx 1070ti for 1000$ but my parents wont let me buy it because they have the embedded idea in their mind that the i5 is not just bad for gaming but is outright useless and that it cant run any game 

so can some plz give an argument with wich i can convince them to let me buy it

If your parents insists on an i7, get an i7. Why you gonna complain?

Sudo make me a sandwich 

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1 hour ago, Karameloo96 said:

they asked mu neighbor who sells computers for a living and then he told them that this is not a good build (because of the i5) and that he would find us a better one

Well the build isn't trash but he could probably get you a better deal, maybe you can hire him lol

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Well the build isn't trash but he could probably get you a better deal, maybe you can hire him lol

I wouldn't get someone who thinks the 8400 is trash for gaming to build me a PC.   It might just be a miscommunication, however going cheaper with him might leave you with something a lot worse. 

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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