Terabyte smartphones are coming cause YOLO and $$$ via Samsung's very fast storage.

[Bcat00]

I knew this was coming from a mile away. When they released the EVO 860 SSD series it was just a matter of time before that trickled down to everything else.

[suits]

20 minutes ago, Noctus said:

 

Price leak is in GBP doesn't always translate well to the rest of the world

[Cyberspirit]

16 minutes ago, Noctus said:

 

Here's hoping those rumors are fake because no phone is worth that much.

Also, I meant the storage's price mainly if it can be used by other manufacturers.

[poochyena]

I don't even use 1TB on my desktop much less on my phone. Only about 20GB used on my phone. 10GB of which is the OS.

Phones are a bad device to backup data on to because of how easy they are to break or lose.

[CharminUltraStrong]

1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'd spend that much on internal storage so I don't have to upgrade every generation. I'd be able to store everything I could ever dream of on there(I'm still yet to fill up 1TB on my desktop), and I'd probably run it into the ground anyway, or until the hardware stops doing what I need it to do.

Yes, but now I can store so much more of those....

Devices, like the google pixel, deteriorate quickly. Mine runs about a quarter as fast as it did the day I got it around launch. App tray doesn't move smoothly, everything is clunky, battery life has been halved, videos/pictures will become a glitchy mess in some cases and the phone is slow all around. For something that was supposed to be the quickest out there with simple, plain old Android, it runs like garbage only 2 years and 3 months later.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, CharminUltraStrong said:

Devices, like the google pixel, deteriorate quickly. Mine runs about a quarter as fast as it did the day I got it around launch. App tray doesn't move smoothly, everything is clunky, battery life has been halved, videos/pictures will become a glitch mess in some cases and the phone is slow all around. For something that was supposed to be the quickest out there with simple, plain old Android, it runs like garbage only 2 years and 3 months later.

I get battery problems and video problems like what you mentioned with my GS3.

 

Everything else about it is usually pretty snappy.

[CharminUltraStrong]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I get battery problems and video problems like what you mentioned with my GS3.

 

Everything else about it is usually pretty snappy.

I wish the same could be said for my phone. Look at it this way, you buy the phone with the intention of using it for 3 or 4 years with 1 TB of storage right?  With how storage premiums continue to rise you'd probably pay 1,400 USD to 1,500 USD, bearing in mind that it will not have a warranty around a year or so after launch, will be several gens behind and will be worth a fraction of what it was worth especially since it's used with deterioration. 128Gb-256Gb is probably max unless you're some crazy power user that needs 30 different apps on a daily basis for workplace management. You are now, effectively, left with a phone that was worth 1,500 USD, that'd serve better as a pretty paper weight/dedicated shooter.

[Scitesh]

6 hours ago, Cyberspirit said:

My 128GB 5T has 13GB left.

Too much music.

I feel you my 128gb view 10 has additional 128 gb sd card and I've got 25gb free on internal and about 40ish on the sd card

[williamcll]

Maybe now we can get fully smooth 4k60fps on the phone.

[aezakmi]

I could have a terabyte hard drive for $40 instead of $4000 but you know users they buy the same phone every year just like fifa fans buy the same game every year and trick themselves into believing the hair texture of a player is different this time and it was worth the money.

[Noctus]

5 hours ago, suits said:

Price leak is in GBP doesn't always translate well to the rest of the world

It's in Euro (GBP conversion for convenience) it'd be pretty solid.

5 hours ago, Cyberspirit said:

Also, I meant the storage's price mainly if it can be used by other manufacturers.

Ah fair enough. I'd wager early adopters tax for the flagships, then the mid range phones getting it at a decent price.

[mr moose]

1TB on a phone? and people are complaining about 7GB on a windows device. 

[Pasi123]

I have 64gb internal and 64gb microsd on my phone and both are 98% or 99% full. I need to buy a bigger microsd card...

[desertcomputer]

11 hours ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

i have yet to fill up my phones internal storage...

how people do it is beyond me...

Kernel and rom test builds. I had clear around 1GB kernels deleted last week.

[Salv8 (sam)]

Just now, EMC said:

Kernel and rom test builds. I had clear around 1GB kernels deleted last week.

you are someone who develops roms and kernels for android devices...

your average consumer stores photos and some documents...

[LAwLz]

3 hours ago, mr moose said:

1TB on a phone? and people are complaining about 7GB on a windows device. 

Just because we have hardware doesn't mean we should completely abandon optimization and making use of as little resources as possible.

Just because Volkswagen hypothetically created a Golf with a 200 liter gasoline tank doesn't mean it would be totally reasonable for them to suddenly make their engines use twice as much fuel for the same mileage, torque and horse power.

 

Software should strive to be as optimized as possible (using the least amount of resources and running as quickly as possible) while hardware should strive to be as optimized as possible in terms of having high performance (obviously also taking other things into account such as power consumption).

Hardware becoming better does not justify software developers doing a bad job. Likewise, hardware developers shouldn't slack off just because some software developer might do a good job with limited resources.

[mr moose]

4 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Just because we have hardware doesn't mean we should completely abandon optimization and making use of as little resources as possible.

Just because Volkswagen hypothetically created a Golf with a 200 liter gasoline tank doesn't mean it would be totally reasonable for them to suddenly make their engines use twice as much fuel for the same mileage, torque and horse power.

 

Software should strive to be as optimized as possible (using the least amount of resources and running as quickly as possible) while hardware should strive to be as optimized as possible in terms of having high performance (obviously also taking other things into account such as power consumption).

Hardware becoming better does not justify software developers doing a bad job. Likewise, hardware developers shouldn't slack off just because some software developer might do a good job with limited resources.

 

advancing hardware, massive changes in consumer needs and markets, Massive changes in security risks and threats, growing population of varying device and end uses,  nope it must just be just lazy incompetence by company X.

[WereCatf]

16 hours ago, Suika said:

Weird flex but ok.

 

My 128GB OnePlus 6T is still below 10% storage utilization.

Heh, I'm in the same boat. I just can't think of any good use for all the storage on my phone, it's just sitting there unused.

[captain_to_fire]

16 hours ago, suits said:

Who else like big internal storage 

Basically no more SD card slot 

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, mr moose said:

 

advancing hardware, massive changes in consumer needs and markets, Massive changes in security risks and threats, growing population of varying device and end uses,  nope it must just be just lazy incompetence by company X.

Well, not really "lazy" and "incompetent" as much as it is:

"Windows 10 is pretty shit to the core, architecture wise, because of decades of just building on top of it, and optimizing it would require a tremendous amount of work that Microsoft probably doesn't feel is worth it".

 

I know you don't know much about operating systems or software development/architecture in general, but believe me when I say Windows is a bloated mess. It is really, really badly made, but it works well enough for most people to not be bothered, and as a result Microsoft don't see any massive need in optimizing it more than necessary.

If Microsoft dedicated a few years and all their resources to rebuild Windows from the ground up, I have no doubt in my mind that they would make it significantly smaller, faster, more modular and much easier to maintain. But at what cost? Thousands upon thousands of developer hours. I don't think Microsoft are that eager to pour billions upon billions of dollars in optimizing Windows when it won't result in any more customers or profits for them, although it would potentially cut down on troubleshooting time.

Plus, such a massive rewrite would also carry a great risk of things breaking, which would result in unhappy customers and even more money and time poured into the project.

 

But this whole conversation is really off-topic so maybe we should continue it in a new thread?

I am more than happy to list suggestions on how Windows 10 can be improved.

[schwellmo92]

11 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Thousands upon thousands of developer hours.

Try millions upon millions.

 

Also am curious to how you would apparently know Windows 10 is pretty shit to the core?

[RejZoR]

I frankly don't want a phone to hold so much data. On desktop, no problem, but certainly not with device that can be lost or ruined so easily. And you basically can't have a backup of such massive storage either. And even if you have backup service with so much cloud storage, you don't have a plan that allows you to transfer and maintain so much data.

[Doobeedoo]

Amazing though 1TB and also a faster type of storage too. Can have enough of apps with ton of pictures, music, videos and still enough of space for 4K recordings. 

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, schwellmo92 said:

Try millions upon millions.

Did some counting and you're right. If you go with the Windows 7 numbers (23 feature teams with 16 developers, 16 testers and 8 managers in each) then it's well over 1 million hours a year of work put in.

 

 

1 hour ago, schwellmo92 said:

Also am curious to how you would apparently know Windows 10 is pretty shit to the core?

A lot of the high-level design of Windows is documented for the public to see.

 

I've also studied and worked with Windows quite a bit, as well as other operating systems.

 

On top of that I have direct contact with some Microsoft employees, both professionally (work with a lot of MCSE and MVP people, at a Microsoft Gold partnered company) and on my spare time (it's not too hard to get in contact with people if you talk to them directly on Twitter, IRC, mail or other channels).

 

Then it's all the stuff you derive from just putting 1 and 1 together. For example Microsoft having to put in a lot of work to decouple IE from Windows back when they were sued by the EU indicates that Windows heavily relied on IE internally for various things. Otherwise it would have been an easy fix. The fact that IE patches sometimes has strange side-effects on other parts of the OS further strengthens that theory. Things like that.

[RejZoR]

7 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Did some counting and you're right. If you go with the Windows 7 numbers (23 feature teams with 16 developers, 16 testers and 8 managers in each) then it's well over 1 million hours a year of work put in.

 

 

A lot of the high-level design of Windows is documented for the public to see.

 

I've also studied and worked with Windows quite a bit, as well as other operating systems.

 

On top of that I have direct contact with some Microsoft employees, both professionally (work with a lot of MCSE and MVP people, at a Microsoft Gold partnered company) and on my spare time (it's not too hard to get in contact with people if you talk to them directly on Twitter, IRC, mail or other channels).

 

Then it's all the stuff you derive from just putting 1 and 1 together. For example Microsoft having to put in a lot of work to decouple IE from Windows back when they were sued by the EU indicates that Windows heavily relied on IE internally for various things. Otherwise it would have been an easy fix. The fact that IE patches sometimes has strange side-effects on other parts of the OS further strengthens that theory. Things like that.

That's a bit of a BS. They could just hide it from users but still have it internally if Windows itself relied on its engine for the rendering.