PLEASE HELP!!! First AMD build is CURSED! Won't boot! Becoming an Intel to AMD convert is looking dim.

[hazeyez]

I just bought a ryzen 5 2600 with an Asus Prime B350m-E mobo for a budget used parts build i'm doing to pair with a used Asus 980ti I bought.

 

I've head stories about threadripper needing to be torqued properly or they won't boot. Does that apply to Ryzen 5? Probably not right?

 

I have no idea what the problem is but....

 

Mobo lights, fans - ON. BIOS screen not appearing, and I know it's the pc because my keyboard RGB lights are not even coming on, which they usually do.

 

I switched out the RAM - not the RAM.

 

I checked ALL connections from power supply...

 

I thought I maybe was shorting something out by plugging the f-panel plugs in wrong, as I was having issues figuring out whether ground was +/- or if the arrow was +/-, or the black wire with the grey stripe was +/-... so i just unplugged them all and left the power switch one in which was plugged in correctly.

 

I shorted out the RTC RAM pegs, and a second time even unplugged the CMOS battery then did it - nothing.

 

I really have no idea what it could be... I am using a used power supply though, as my other one is in use - BUT I have used this power supply just last week and it worked fine... it's the only anomaly I could think of though.

 

The 980ti isn't plugged in yet so the hdmi cable is plugged to the mobo.. but still, that can't be the issue because like I said, the RGB on my keyboard isn't powering on, which it would at least.

 

I just don't know if I did something wrong, like you know the arrow on the corner of the CPU chip which shows you which way to plug it? Now I'm thinking that maybe I put that in incorrectly... but I am pretty sure it was right. Would I even be able to close the latch on the cpu if it wasn't seated correctly? I am second guessing myself with that because it is sideways on this mobo, not what I'm used to with past Intel builds - the CPU is turned clockwise 90 degrees on this one.

 

I was really hoping I would be impressed with AMD and become a convert over from Intel, but it's looking more bleek by the minute LOL.

 

Any ideas, advice?

 

Thanks

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

mobo need bios update.

get it to pc shop nearby~~

[schwellmo92]

Yeah sounds like the BIOS needs to be updated if the motherboard wasn’t advertised as Ryzen 2 ready.

[Mephi00]

You need to plug in the gpu for video output, because the R5 doesnt have a iGpu, so there wont be any video output on the mobo

[xg32]

so many things wrong here, b350 with zen+, need a bios update.

 

2600 doesn't have video output, so u need to plug that 980ti in. Do both and see if it turns on.

 

Getto the point next time instead of making us read all your thoughts.

[hazeyez]

Just now, xg32 said:

Getto the point next time instead of making us read all your thoughts.

you're welcomed to not read or respond. next time leave your negativity elsewhere.

 

I would rather supply 110% of the information when asking for help, so 1) it can be narrowed down and 2) to give context to the situation.

 

@Mephi00 @schwellmo92 @dgsddfgdfhgs - thank you very much for the input.

 

I believe the BIOS is fine, as it is advertised to run Ryzen 2 - but it's definitely going to get an update as it appears there are newer BIOS that are more optimized for such.

 

I totally forgot that this chip does not have integrated graphics!!!!!

 

That has to be the issue thank you very much for reminding me!

 

I will let you know if it works tomorrow when I finish the build! Thanks again!

[xg32]

6 minutes ago, hazeyez said:

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you plugged ur hdmi in with a cpu without intergrated graphics, then used a zen+ cpu on the first gen board, and calls the build cursed. Probably shouldn't build it yourself at that point, but best of luck, and do a minimum amount of research before a build. It's just plain lazy.

 

Random rambling doesn't give context to the situation

 

[mxk]

21 minutes ago, hazeyez said:

I believe the BIOS is fine, as it is advertised to run Ryzen 2 - but it's definitely going to get an update as it appears there are newer BIOS that are more optimized for such.

It's a shitty marketing ploy and you let yourself get pulled into it. When it advertises that, it probably means that the CPU will fit into that motherboard and turn on. And if they actually meant it works fully, then it meant that you need to do the BIOS update but they don't tell you that because, like I said, it's a stupid trick.

 

No worries though. At least you weren't one of the idiots bought an incompatible intel CPU and motherboard just because it was the same socket (it specifies what CPU the motherboard works with... Can't people read?).

[SupaKomputa]

I think at this point he's able to turn on the pc.

[Nocte]

3 hours ago, hazeyez said:

The 980ti isn't plugged in yet so the hdmi cable is plugged to the mobo.. but still, that can't be the issue because like I said, the RGB on my keyboard isn't powering on, which it would at least.

Lol. Ryzen 5 2600 does not have integrated graphics. You need the 980 in and plug the cable into it.

[PineyCreek]

You may be able to get a boot kit from AMD still to get you through the BIOS update process, not sure.

[hazeyez]

6 hours ago, xg32 said:

you plugged ur hdmi in with a cpu without intergrated graphics, then used a zen+ cpu on the first gen board, and calls the build cursed. Probably shouldn't build it yourself at that point, but best of luck, and do a minimum amount of research before a build. It's just plain lazy.

 

Random rambling doesn't give context to the situation

 

You say "used a zen+ cpu on a first gen board" like theres actually a difference. I did do research in fact,  that's why I went with AMD for this build and 95% of the people said to get a b350 board if it's cheaper because when it comes down to it theres no difference actually. 

 

First AMD build, forgot about integrated graphics.. and was panicking as on a build last week I had to flash bios and had a bad ram socket on the mobo... so excuse me for coming to a pc help forum for help? 

 

I love little sour bitches that sit at their screen so unhappy with their own life that they have nothing better to do than antagonize other people over nonsense.  Act like you are so superior in knowledge when in fact you are most likely one of those ppl that googles everything and pretends to know everything so whos rambling when they have nothing constructive to say? @xg32 grow the fuck up, kid.

[Stefan Payne]

7 hours ago, hazeyez said:

I just bought a ryzen 5 2600 with an Asus Prime B350m-E mobo for a budget used parts build i'm doing to pair with a used Asus 980ti I bought.

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Any ideas, advice?

yeah, 300 Series Boards don't work with Ryzen 2k out of the Box.

You need to update the BIOS.

22 minutes ago, hazeyez said:

and 95% of the people said to get a b350 board if it's cheaper because when it comes down to it theres no difference actually. 

Those people were wrong and had no idea...

With UEFI, if the CPU is not known, it will not boot.

 

With the old BIOS it could in some occasions do that. But those times are over...

IF you don't have "the right BIOS" on there, it won't work...

 

Either way, I'd return the Board and get a higher quality one. Means at least 4 DIMM Slots and Heatsinks on the VRM. And 400 Series Chipset of course...

[xg32]

58 minutes ago, hazeyez said:

 

i don't think you have any idea how you sound in this thread, all i did was said you were rambling and clearly too lazy to do research and you have to resort to personal attacks to vent your anger to cover the embarassment, frankly it's one of the dumber thing i've seen for awhile.  I'm not gonna guess how old you are, how mad you are or how broke you are, doesn't matter to me.

 

58 minutes ago, hazeyez said:

You say "used a zen+ cpu on a first gen board" like theres actually a difference

yes there is a difference.

[hazeyez]

33 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i don't think you have any idea how you sound in this thread, all i did was said you were rambling and clearly too lazy to do research and you have to resort to personal attacks to vent your anger to cover the embarassment, frankly it's one of the dumber thing i've seen for awhile.  I'm not gonna guess how old you are, how mad you are or how broke you are, doesn't matter to me.

 

yes there is a difference.

@xg32 Aww discredit your opponent that's just as lame as me calling you a disgruntled little bitch. You're criticizing a situation which 1) you barely have an idea of what research I did 2) instead of calling someone lazy either help or dont say anything. You waste all that energy starting the personal attack, for what? Obviously bored, you're probably broke compared to me if you want to bring that into it and so sour with life you're the obvious example of the type that comes online to start arguments.

 

I work on wall street my nyc rent is $3500 a month, that is less than 1/100 of my annual income, and I decided to building gaming rigs from used/discounted parts and flip them for fun. Never did an AMD build, and I am well aware of integrated graphics not being included in the chip. Far from lazy, a simple oversight. You just want to show your superior knowledge because you have nothing better to do, well guess what? Wrong forum to do it on. This forum is full of newbs and when it really comes down to it I actually doubt you know more than how to put a pc together and install windows. Show me your code, show me your qualifications, show me your employee badge saying you're a network admin. Cant? No surprise little boy. Get off my nutz now byeeeeee loser.

[Brent744]

I have a B350 which I initially purchased with the Ryzen 7 1700 when they first came out. I upgraded to the Ryzen 5 2600, threw it into the board and I ended up with the same result, PC is powered on but no image. So I had to install my R7 1700 again just to update the bios. After that all is good.

300 series boards still work great with Zen+.

[hazeyez]

1 minute ago, Brent744 said:

I have a B350 which I initially purchased with the Ryzen 7 1700 when they first came out. I upgraded to the Ryzen 5 2600, threw it into the board and I ended up with the same result, PC is powered on but no image. So I had to install my R7 1700 again just to update the bios. After that all is good.

300 series boards still work great with Zen+.

@Brent744 yeah I actually bought a 1700x for a second build so I might just throw that in here to make things simple because I'm buying an asus rog strix b450-f later today which the 2600 can go in. I just couldn't get it at open box price ($68) at the microcenter location I drove to last night.. which, I specifically drove to for a discounted open box nzxt s340 elite which was supposed to have everything but the side panel screws for $60... two hour drive and no side panel either ugh what a headache. Anyway, they have the strix b450-f at my local MC 15 mins away so that's the plan. Thanks for the input!

 

I expected to maybe have to flash the bios worst case scenario, I got this mobo for $29 brand new it's a $70 mobo so, cant complain. The integrated graphics was an oversight.

[xg32]

53 minutes ago, hazeyez said:

wall street  $3500 1/100

XD

[ch3w2oy]

1 hour ago, hazeyez said:

@xg32 Aww discredit your opponent that's just as lame as me calling you a disgruntled little bitch. You're criticizing a situation which 1) you barely have an idea of what research I did 2) instead of calling someone lazy either help or dont say anything. You waste all that energy starting the personal attack, for what? Obviously bored, you're probably broke compared to me if you want to bring that into it and so sour with life you're the obvious example of the type that comes online to start arguments.

 

I work on wall street my nyc rent is $3500 a month, that is less than 1/100 of my annual income, and I decided to building gaming rigs from used/discounted parts and flip them for fun. Never did an AMD build, and I am well aware of integrated graphics not being included in the chip. Far from lazy, a simple oversight. You just want to show your superior knowledge because you have nothing better to do, well guess what? Wrong forum to do it on. This forum is full of newbs and when it really comes down to it I actually doubt you know more than how to put a pc together and install windows. Show me your code, show me your qualifications, show me your employee badge saying you're a network admin. Cant? No surprise little boy. Get off my nutz now byeeeeee loser.

Calm down. Breathe. If you feel someone is being an asshole, ignore them. Why carry it on? At this point you're looking like the crazy one, because one, most people that make good money don't need to brag. Two, people that make decent money don't share their income. Three, usually when people make money that is higher than the national average, they don't don't need to justify their actions. Also, you lost all credibility once you mentioned Wallstreet. 

 

Do more research. It's common knowledge that b350 boards need a BIOS update. It's also common knowledge that the 2600/2700 don't utilize integrated graphics. It's also common knowledge that you shouldn't even use a b350 motherboard, like at all. Maybe an x370. Even to resell. 

 

Is also common knowledge to search Google. 

 

I am not judging you. I love you. 

 

But... 

 

If I was reselling a computer I was building for profit, I would know what I'm doing, at the least. I just built my first PC and I aced that bitch. 

[hazeyez]

42 minutes ago, ChewToy! said:

Calm down. Breathe. If you feel someone is being an asshole, ignore them. Why carry it on? At this point you're looking like the crazy one, because one, most people that make good money don't need to brag. Two, people that make decent money don't share their income. Three, usually when people make money that is higher than the national average, they don't don't need to justify their actions. Also, you lost all credibility once you mentioned Wallstreet. 

 

Do more research. It's common knowledge that b350 boards need a BIOS update. It's also common knowledge that the 2600/2700 don't utilize integrated graphics. It's also common knowledge that you shouldn't even use a b350 motherboard, like at all. Maybe an x370. Even to resell. 

 

Is also common knowledge to search Google. 

 

I am not judging you. I love you. 

 

But... 

 

If I was reselling a computer I was building for profit, I would know what I'm doing, at the least. I just built my first PC and I aced that bitch. 

Matter of perspective I suppose. I know how to build a computer and there's nothing wrong with using a b350 mobo. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the major difference between a b350 and b450 mobo and why when doing a budget build you wouldnt go with the cheaper option even if it means simply flashing BIOS? Again, first AMD build - simple oversight...

 

Moving along...

 

I love you too.

[bowrilla]

59 minutes ago, ChewToy! said:

It's also common knowledge that you shouldn't even use a b350 motherboard, like at all. Maybe an x370

Plain wrong. There's nothing wrong with good B350 or B450 boards. On smaller form factors there isn't even a feature difference in a lot of the cases. Just make sure it supports what you need and has decent VRMs and VRM cooling.

[ch3w2oy]

17 minutes ago, hazeyez said:

 

 

Moving along...

 

I love you too.

If I was selling the build I would also use the cheapest board that gets the job done. 

[ch3w2oy]

24 minutes ago, bowrilla said:

Plain wrong. There's nothing wrong with good B350 or B450 boards. On smaller form factors there isn't even a feature difference in a lot of the cases. Just make sure it supports what you need and has decent VRMs and VRM cooling.

I'm sorry. I'm on my period and I just get so angry sometimes 

 

I do agree with you. 

 

Carry on..