China To Force Changes To 20 Popular Games, Ban 9 Including Fortnite and PUBG

[corrado33]

2 minutes ago, Arika S said:

To add to this. 

 

They do it because that's all they know, they don't have the outside perspective of people that have never been under such a regime and don't know how bad they have it (because propaganda). Some of them might just be scared of speaking out, but a large majority are likely happy

Think vault 81 in fallout 4. The vault is still operational, and the vault dwellers are happy. They know nothing else, therefore they have no desire for anything else. Anyone who speaks out is punished because it may ruin their perception of "happiness." 

[AngryBeaver]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The thing is many Chinese people defend the state for everything. 

I think the leaders of China, Russia, and North Korea should all sit on a plutonium pop-sickle.

[jasonvp]

3 minutes ago, corrado33 said:

I want my gaming experience to be relaxing and enjoyable, not plagued by 12 year olds trying to grief me. 

It's not up to law making and enforcing bodies to ensure that.  It's up to you and the rest of the gaming community.

[corrado33]

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

I think the leaders of China, Russia, and North Korea should all sit on a plutonium pop-sickle.

Careful, trump is making friends with all of them. 

[corrado33]

1 minute ago, jasonvp said:

It's not up to law making and enforcing bodies to ensure that.  It's up to you and the rest of the gaming community.

Actually it IS up to the law.

Many online games have ratings, which are clearly ignored by salespeople. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing half of those online games. 

[AngryBeaver]

1 minute ago, corrado33 said:

Careful, trump is making friends with all of them. 

Of course he is, he would love to have that kind of power.

[jasonvp]

Just now, corrado33 said:

Actually it IS up to the law.

Many online games have ratings, which are clearly ignored by salespeople. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing half of those online games. 

No matter how much you twist this around to try and suit your view of "how things should be", all you're doing is inviting state censorship into a place it doesn't belong.  You can solve this on your own.  Literally your very own:

 

TURN THE FUCKING CHAT WINDOW OFF!

 

Get it?  It's what I do in every game I play.

[corrado33]

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

Of course he is, he would love to have that kind of power.

Then you better stop talking out against them or you'll be in big trouble mister.  FAKE NEWS. 

[AngryBeaver]

1 minute ago, corrado33 said:

Actually it IS up to the law.

Many online games have ratings, which are clearly ignored by salespeople. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing half of those online games. 

That is because all of those ratings are just suggestion. They have no obligation to enforce them and that would ultimately be up to the parents. Good luck passing a law on that when most games are downloaded digitally now and there isn't a real solution to verifying who is or isn't playing it... Unless we are going to require things like the Kinect to constantly verify the person playing.

[corrado33]

Just now, jasonvp said:

No matter how much you twist this around to try and suit your view of "how things should be", all you're doing is inviting state censorship into a place it doesn't belong.  You can solve this on your own.  Literally your very own:

 

TURN THE FUCKING CHAT WINDOW OFF!

 

Get it?  It's what I do in every game I play.

So I'm not allowed to enjoy the full game and/or talk with my friends because I have to make allowances for annoying people? Seems pretty shitty to me. 

[Unhelpful]

3 minutes ago, corrado33 said:

Actually it IS up to the law.

Many online games have ratings, which are clearly ignored by salespeople. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing half of those online games. 

HAH those ratings have nothing to do with law, those are just suggestions to parents.

[Jito463]

2 minutes ago, corrado33 said:

Actually it IS up to the law.

Many online games have ratings, which are clearly ignored by salespeople. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing half of those online games. 

In the US, those ratings are self-imposed by the games industry, not enforced by law.  There is no legal requirement on what games can be sold to whom, though many retailers do limit games based on said ratings (however, not all of them do).

[Unhelpful]

1 minute ago, corrado33 said:

So I'm not allowed to enjoy the full game and/or talk with my friends because I have to make allowances for annoying people? Seems pretty shitty to me. 

Do you actually not see how a government censoring online speech that they deem as "toxic" is a terrible idea?

[AngryBeaver]

3 minutes ago, jasonvp said:

No matter how much you twist this around to try and suit your view of "how things should be", all you're doing is inviting state censorship into a place it doesn't belong.  You can solve this on your own.  Literally your very own:

 

TURN THE FUCKING CHAT WINDOW OFF!

 

Get it?  It's what I do in every game I play.

You language is offensive to me. I think we should ban it from China too. Actually we should all just close our chat windows so we can't see it... oh wait that didn't work.

 

The problem is we are becoming so politically correct we can barely breath without offending people. Unless the game is basically glorified porn who cares most of the time. There are much bigger things to worry about then whether or not there was blood or language in it that I didn't agree with. Having characters dressed in skimpy clothing or having false information in them isn't that important either.

[jasonvp]

Just now, JoeyDM said:

Do you actually not see how a government censoring online speech that they deem as "toxic" is a terrible idea?

He needs Poppa Gov't to solve this challenge for him, apparently.  That without any apparent understanding of the massive slippery slope it creates.

[Jito463]

2 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

Good luck passing a law on that when most games are downloaded digitally now and there isn't a real solution to verifying who is or isn't playing it

The only reason a rating system like the ESRB isn't a law, is because the games industry implemented it willingly before the government could write a law which would have forced them to.  The movie ratings system is based on a law, so there's nothing stopping Congress from making one for games.  There just isn't any particular reason to do so at this time.

[AngryBeaver]

3 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

The only reason a rating system like the ESRB isn't a law, is because the games industry implemented it willingly before the government could write a law which would have forced them to.  The movie ratings system is based on a law, so there's nothing stopping Congress from making one for games.  There just isn't any particular reason to do so at this time.

Yet you can take your kid to an R movie without a single issues as long as you accompany them. It just means a person at a theater isn't suppose to sell them a ticket outright. Now when they are at home they can watch whatever they want on things like Hulu,Amazon prime, Netflix, youtube, etc... there is no way to prevent it in that scenario without a parent setting restrictions.

 

Hell just look at how hard it is for kids to view free sources of porn. That is something that should be much more guarded than it is now. They could put in a system that requires an account and a debit/cc account to verify age. That will never be done though because they want those kids coming to their sites to help generate ad revenue. That and most people think they are doing these things anonymously because they don't have to sign in to an account.

[The Benjamins]

55 minutes ago, SlimyPython said:

I think these two are supposed to be swapped, but the punishment is the same so who cares

 

1 hour ago, System32.exe said:

what

 

did they mix up fortnite with another game, lol

I think the "vulgar content." is due to some of the dances. ( I have not played the game so I don't know for sure) but some dances can be seen as bad due to sexual nature of some dances

[Jito463]

2 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

Yet you can take your kid to an R movie without a single issues as long as you accompany them. It just means a person at a theater isn't suppose to sell them a ticket outright. Now when they are at home they can watch whatever they want on things like Hulu,Amazon prime, Netflix, youtube, etc... there is no way to prevent it in that scenario without a parent setting restrictions.

Oh, I never meant to imply that it would be effective, just that Congress could make it a law if they so desired.

[AngryBeaver]

3 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

Oh, I never meant to imply that it would be effective, just that Congress could make it a law if they so desired.

Honestly all governments are just hungry for more and more control. They take away our freedom piece by piece and before you know it we will all live in places where our every action is controlled some body of power. I think I am going to sign up for the Mars missions.

[Thaldor]

Who's suprised?

 

Now let's just let this sink into our memory and not let anyother country turn this way (looking at you Australia and UK especially).

[pipnina]

This is why I am so confused as to why any game dev (or major industry) can feel complicit in doing business with china? Unless they want to risk totalitarian dictatorship spreading to the rest of the world, it would be better for the rest of the world to not fan the flame.

Even Valve, the private company owned by a single person, bends over backwards to lick china's asshole. It's disgusting.

[Jito463]

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

Honestly all governments are just hungry for more and more control.

There's a reason the Constitution and the BoR were written to explicitly limit the powers of government.  We The People just need to hold our representatives accountable when they violate their oath of office.  A good, old-fashioned "Tar And Feathering" wouldn't be out of order, in my opinion.

 

Of course, trying that in China would probably find you "jumping" from the top of a Foxconn building, only without the net.

[AngryBeaver]

4 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

There's a reason the Constitution and the BoR were written to explicitly limit the powers of government.  We The People just need to hold our representatives accountable when they violate their oath of office.  A good, old-fashioned "Tar And Feathering" wouldn't be out of order, in my opinion.

 

Of course, trying that in China would probably find you "jumping" from the top of a Foxconn building, only without the net.

Yes, but a lot of those protections have become rather limited. The Right to bear arms was put in there not only to make it harder to invade us, but also to give us the ability to protect ourselves from a corrupt government.... the problem is once we created weapons of mass destruction along with massive technical advances on the military side of things that balance was lost.

[jasonvp]

4 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

Of course, trying that in China would probably find you "jumping" from the top of a Foxconn building, only without the net.

Or staring down another tank, but this time it doesn't stop rolling.

 

(If you guys are old enough to remember that)