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18 hours ago, swarfega said:

 

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I remember my Vertex 2 dying just within warranty but just near end of line, so they sent me back out a sealed Vertex 3 I ended up reselling. 

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Hi guys.  Thought this would be the best place to ask this.

 

I'm looking at an old Packard Bell 486ES.  It's got a 25MHz 486 in it.  I was wondering if it was possible/simple to upgrade the chip at all?


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1 hour ago, YouSirAreADudeSir said:

Hi guys.  Thought this would be the best place to ask this.

 

I'm looking at an old Packard Bell 486ES.  It's got a 25MHz 486 in it.  I was wondering if it was possible/simple to upgrade the chip at all?

Judging from Wikipedia, there are some faster clocked 486 models:

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The initial model, the 80486DX, was introduced with 25 and 33 MHz models. Later a 50 MHz part was added, then clock-doubled DX2/50 and DX2/66 parts, and later still, clock-tripled DX4/75 and DX4/100 ones.

Just a simple matter of finding one of those bad boys.

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2 hours ago, YouSirAreADudeSir said:

Hi guys.  Thought this would be the best place to ask this.

 

I'm looking at an old Packard Bell 486ES.  It's got a 25MHz 486 in it.  I was wondering if it was possible/simple to upgrade the chip at all?

A 486 DX 50Mhz or 66Mhz will probably be the easiest to find.  The ultimate would be a Pentium Overdrive CPU.  These were 5V compliant pentiums designed for in place upgrade of older 486 PC's.  I'm guessing they won't be cheap though, I see two on eBay for $85 and $135.  

 

Also double check your MB will support Overdrive CPU's.  I'm fairly certain it should but I'm no expert and these things can be finicky. 


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56 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Judging from Wikipedia, there are some faster clocked 486 models:

Just a simple matter of finding one of those bad boys.

 

15 minutes ago, Corrupt_Liberty said:

A 486 DX 50Mhz or 66Mhz will probably be the easiest to find.  The ultimate would be a Pentium Overdrive CPU.  These were 5V compliant pentiums designed for in place upgrade of older 486 PC's.  I'm guessing they won't be cheap though, I see two on eBay for $85 and $135.  

 

Also double check your MB will support Overdrive CPU's.  I'm fairly certain it should but I'm no expert and these things can be finicky. 

Ok thanks to you both


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@YouSirAreADudeSir I found a test 486DX4/100 vs Pentium Overdrive :

 

For the games, the performance is same and 486DX4/100 is cheaper than Pentium Overdrive on eBay.


PC #1 : Gigabyte B150M-HD3 DDR3 | i7-7700 | 16GB DDR3L 1600 | Zotac GeForce GT610 PCIe 1x | LSI SAS 3081E-R | 240GB NVMe PCIe PNY CS2030 | HDDs 41.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DVI port)
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2667 v3 | 32GB DDR4 ECC Reg 2133 | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming OC 8G | 6x 120GB SSD SATA RAID0 | Seasonic Prime Ultra 850 Titanium | Lian Li PC-A77 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DP port)
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 4GB DDR3L 1600 | 32GB eMMC M.2 | 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL 15" LCD 1024x768

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T61p | T9500 | 4GB DDR2 667 | Quadro FX 570m | 120GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | 15.4" 1920x1200

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10" LCD tactile 800x600 display | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue

And I have 8 others computers.

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25 minutes ago, X-System said:

@YouSirAreADudeSir I found a test 486DX4/100 vs Pentium Overdrive :

 

For the games, the performance is same and 486DX4/100 is cheaper than Pentium Overdrive on eBay.

I wish I'd had the opportunity to try these back in the day.  I grew up with a Tandy 1000 TX (weird system with a 16 bit 286 on an 8 bit bus).  We weren't a rich family so the next upgrade we got was a P133. Many years reading about those awesome 386 and 486 PC's. 


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28 minutes ago, Corrupt_Liberty said:

I wish I'd had the opportunity to try these back in the day.  I grew up with a Tandy 1000 TX (weird system with a 16 bit 286 on an 8 bit bus).  We weren't a rich family so the next upgrade we got was a P133. Many years reading about those awesome 386 and 486 PC's. 

My first PC x86 was Compaq Presario equipped 486DX4/100 with 8MB FPM (upgraded to 24MB), 512k VRAM VGA 256-color, 420MB HDD and CD-ROM drive. It was a good PC :)


PC #1 : Gigabyte B150M-HD3 DDR3 | i7-7700 | 16GB DDR3L 1600 | Zotac GeForce GT610 PCIe 1x | LSI SAS 3081E-R | 240GB NVMe PCIe PNY CS2030 | HDDs 41.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DVI port)
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2667 v3 | 32GB DDR4 ECC Reg 2133 | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming OC 8G | 6x 120GB SSD SATA RAID0 | Seasonic Prime Ultra 850 Titanium | Lian Li PC-A77 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DP port)
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 4GB DDR3L 1600 | 32GB eMMC M.2 | 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL 15" LCD 1024x768

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T61p | T9500 | 4GB DDR2 667 | Quadro FX 570m | 120GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | 15.4" 1920x1200

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10" LCD tactile 800x600 display | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue

And I have 8 others computers.

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23 minutes ago, X-System said:

My first PC x86 was Compaq Presario equipped 486DX4/100 with 8MB FPM (upgraded to 24MB), 512k VRAM VGA 256-color, 420MB HDD and CD-ROM drive. It was a good PC :)

Ooooh, a HDD!  I only had 3.5 and a 5.25 double density floppy drives.  I did have a 2400 baud modem that I used for that good ol' BBS time.


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4 minutes ago, Corrupt_Liberty said:

Ooooh, a HDD!  I only had 3.5 and a 5.25 double density floppy drives.  I did have a 2400 baud modem that I used for that good ol' BBS time.

But in 1995, 420MB wasn't enough... Because a few games took a lot of space storage. For example, The Need for Speed, a full install took 114MB storage :o

 

I remember, with 420 MB HDD, only 7 big games and it was aleady full... (the operation system was Windows 3.1 with MS-DOS 6.22). When I want to play an other game, I must to uninstall an installed game...

 

For the modem, I hadn't until in 1999/2000 to get U.S.Robotics Faxmodem 56k V.90 when I got my Pentium II rig.


PC #1 : Gigabyte B150M-HD3 DDR3 | i7-7700 | 16GB DDR3L 1600 | Zotac GeForce GT610 PCIe 1x | LSI SAS 3081E-R | 240GB NVMe PCIe PNY CS2030 | HDDs 41.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DVI port)
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2667 v3 | 32GB DDR4 ECC Reg 2133 | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming OC 8G | 6x 120GB SSD SATA RAID0 | Seasonic Prime Ultra 850 Titanium | Lian Li PC-A77 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DP port)
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 4GB DDR3L 1600 | 32GB eMMC M.2 | 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL 15" LCD 1024x768

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T61p | T9500 | 4GB DDR2 667 | Quadro FX 570m | 120GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | 15.4" 1920x1200

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10" LCD tactile 800x600 display | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue

And I have 8 others computers.

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My old liquid cooling parts : waterblock CPU Swiftech Storm and pump Alphacool AP1500 (1500 liters per hour). It was for my old Pentium 4 Extreme Edition s478 :)

 

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PC #1 : Gigabyte B150M-HD3 DDR3 | i7-7700 | 16GB DDR3L 1600 | Zotac GeForce GT610 PCIe 1x | LSI SAS 3081E-R | 240GB NVMe PCIe PNY CS2030 | HDDs 41.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DVI port)
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2667 v3 | 32GB DDR4 ECC Reg 2133 | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming OC 8G | 6x 120GB SSD SATA RAID0 | Seasonic Prime Ultra 850 Titanium | Lian Li PC-A77 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DP port)
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 4GB DDR3L 1600 | 32GB eMMC M.2 | 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL 15" LCD 1024x768

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T61p | T9500 | 4GB DDR2 667 | Quadro FX 570m | 120GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | 15.4" 1920x1200

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10" LCD tactile 800x600 display | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue

And I have 8 others computers.

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On 9/27/2019 at 9:45 AM, X-System said:

My old liquid cooling parts : waterblock CPU Swiftech Storm and pump Alphacool AP1500 (1500 liters per hour). It was for my old Pentium 4 Extreme Edition s478 :)

 

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And it will still work today! Using a Koolance gold plated block to cool a Xeon X3470!

 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Mobile-Pentium-MMX-TT300-300MHz-SL34N-320-Pin-TCP-Fastest-Pentium-RARE/392377297982?hash=item5b5b826c3e:g:K9QAAOSwtLpdTxPp

check that out, sounds fast.

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My old laptop ThinkPad T61p Core 2 Duo T9500 with 1920x1200 display is still good. You don't need to buy a new laptop.

 

Last week-end, I upgrade my PCMCIA port (with eSATA RAID PCMCIA) to combo ExpressCard + PCMCIA ports (it took a lot of time to disassemble to change this piece) and yesterday, I received my USB 3.0 ExpressCard. It works perfect but it limits at 2.5 GT/s (PCIe 1.0). And if I plug on all USB 3.0 ports (3 USB flashs for example), it gives 833 Mbps per port. It's still better than USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) :)

 

Now, my 12-year-old laptop has 3x USB 2.0 ports, 3x USB 3.0 ports and 2x eSATA 1.5Gbps ports :D

 

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PC #1 : Gigabyte B150M-HD3 DDR3 | i7-7700 | 16GB DDR3L 1600 | Zotac GeForce GT610 PCIe 1x | LSI SAS 3081E-R | 240GB NVMe PCIe PNY CS2030 | HDDs 41.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DVI port)
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2667 v3 | 32GB DDR4 ECC Reg 2133 | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming OC 8G | 6x 120GB SSD SATA RAID0 | Seasonic Prime Ultra 850 Titanium | Lian Li PC-A77 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DP port)
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 4GB DDR3L 1600 | 32GB eMMC M.2 | 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL 15" LCD 1024x768

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T61p | T9500 | 4GB DDR2 667 | Quadro FX 570m | 120GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | 15.4" 1920x1200

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10" LCD tactile 800x600 display | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue

And I have 8 others computers.

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1 hour ago, X-System said:

My old laptop ThinkPad T61p Core 2 Duo T9500 with 1920x1200 display is still good. You don't need to buy a new laptop.

 

Last week-end, I upgrade my PCMCIA port (with eSATA RAID PCMCIA) to combo ExpressCard + PCMCIA ports (it took a lot of time to disassemble to change this piece) and yesterday, I received my USB 3.0 ExpressCard. It works perfect but it limits at 2.5 GT/s (PCIe 1.0). And if I plug on all USB 3.0 ports (3 USB flashs for example), it gives 833 Mbps per port. It's still better than USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) :)

 

Now, my 12-year-old laptop has 3x USB 2.0 ports, 3x USB 3.0 ports and 2x eSATA 1.5Gbps ports :D

 

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That's what I did for my old Tecra M5 (well sort of). 3x USB 3.0 in the card slot adition to its port replicator (PS/2 connectors for mouse and keyboard, DVI, Gigabit ethernet, 3-4 more USB 2.0 ports, S-Video). I should try to find the dock again. The laptop was actually good for retro gaming with its quadro nvs110M/Geforce 7100Go 256MB and C2D 7600.

Edit: Geforce 7300go actually looking at spec tables:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-g72.g46

With h264 HW acceleration:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS-110M.2435.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-Go-7300.2145.0.html

That explains why it did YT so well.


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2 hours ago, X-System said:

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NIce upgrade! When I first saw the model number I thought it was one of those IBM ThinkPads before they sold their product line of laptops to Lenovo. And how about the hard drive? It was SATA 1 if I'm not mistaken, right?


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1 hour ago, seagate_surfer said:

 

NIce upgrade! When I first saw the model number I thought it was one of those IBM ThinkPads before they sold their product line of laptops to Lenovo. And how about the hard drive? It was SATA 1 if I'm not mistaken, right?

Yes, it's SATA 1 and I changed the hard drive 100GB by the SSD 120GB SATA 2 OCZ Vertex 2 (his performance was ~200MB/s in SATA 2 mode. With SATA 1, I lost only 50MB/s for this SSD, it's nothing).

 

It's old, I bought it in new a long time ago but it still works with perfect health :)


PC #1 : Gigabyte B150M-HD3 DDR3 | i7-7700 | 16GB DDR3L 1600 | Zotac GeForce GT610 PCIe 1x | LSI SAS 3081E-R | 240GB NVMe PCIe PNY CS2030 | HDDs 41.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DVI port)
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2667 v3 | 32GB DDR4 ECC Reg 2133 | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming OC 8G | 6x 120GB SSD SATA RAID0 | Seasonic Prime Ultra 850 Titanium | Lian Li PC-A77 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DP port)
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 4GB DDR3L 1600 | 32GB eMMC M.2 | 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL 15" LCD 1024x768

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T61p | T9500 | 4GB DDR2 667 | Quadro FX 570m | 120GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | 15.4" 1920x1200

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10" LCD tactile 800x600 display | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue

And I have 8 others computers.

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7 minutes ago, X-System said:

Yes, it's SATA 1 and I changed the hard drive 100GB by the SSD 120GB SATA 2 OCZ Vertex 2 (his performance was ~200MB/s in SATA 2 mode. With SATA 1, I lost only 50MB/s for this SSD, it's nothing).

 

It's old, I bought it in new a long time ago but it still works with perfect health :)

How cool! And how much money did it cost at that time?


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Even when you don't get the full bandwidth the near instant read/writes of the SSD make a system feel SO much more responsive. My Atom netbook was impossible without a SSD!

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I'm loving the dual SSD's in RAID on my Dell XPS "laptop".  They are basically the cheapest thing I could buy and still make a world of difference.  Don't think just because you have SATA1 that it isn't worth it.


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I actually have a mini-PCIe 16 GB SSD from an original Cr-48 Cornbook installed in my laptop. The BIOS detects it, but Windows doesn't for some reason.


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15 minutes ago, seagate_surfer said:

How cool! And how much money did it cost at that time?

I don't remember the price. It was about 200 € (I checked on web)


PC #1 : Gigabyte B150M-HD3 DDR3 | i7-7700 | 16GB DDR3L 1600 | Zotac GeForce GT610 PCIe 1x | LSI SAS 3081E-R | 240GB NVMe PCIe PNY CS2030 | HDDs 41.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DVI port)
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2667 v3 | 32GB DDR4 ECC Reg 2133 | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming OC 8G | 6x 120GB SSD SATA RAID0 | Seasonic Prime Ultra 850 Titanium | Lian Li PC-A77 | DELL 27" LED 2560x1440 (plugged DP port)
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 4GB DDR3L 1600 | 32GB eMMC M.2 | 40GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL 15" LCD 1024x768

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T61p | T9500 | 4GB DDR2 667 | Quadro FX 570m | 120GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 | 15.4" 1920x1200

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10" LCD tactile 800x600 display | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue

And I have 8 others computers.

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4 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Even when you don't get the full bandwidth the near instant read/writes of the SSD make a system feel SO much more responsive. My Atom netbook was impossible without a SSD!

Yes and yes! I can imagine, I don't consider the Atom processors as the best processors for mobile (knowing that today the Intel Core M family exists) but I still want one device that comes with that processor, it doesn´t give me the chance to swap the storage device but it is a flash memory. I will use it mainly as a tablet and I think I'll go for the Android version instead of the Windows version because I like more how Android works for tablets than Windows.

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