Cyberpunk 2077 - multiplayer mode will have micropayments

[Nowak]

I'm literally shaking rn why would Geraldo Studios do this to us

[dizmo]

2 hours ago, emosun said:

I sure do miss buying a game..... then having it , and playing it.......

Can't wait for cereal to adopt the same business strategy so I can rent a box of fruitloops that is 20% full and tastes like crap.

How is this different from that? You still own the game.

...also, what's the difference between now and the future? (bolded )

1 hour ago, imreloadin said:

We also trusted CDPR to NOT do micro-transactions at all considering their numerous statements to the contrary...

I think a better word is expect. I don't know why you'd trust a company, who's real purpose is to money so that they can expand, not to try to capitalize on that in some way. Just seems a little naive.

1 hour ago, handymanshandle said:

Do I hear "overhyped game that'll never live up to its hype and will actually be dogshit?"

No.

I don't think it's wrong for the game to be as hyped as it is, given their track record.
I mean, this isn't Star Citizen.

1 hour ago, Caroline said:

Multiplayer mode is enough to make me avoid buying a game.

Why? No one makes you play it.

30 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I don't understand why people are so outraged if microtransactions are done right. If microtransactions are limited to non essential cosmetics that do not affect gameplay, where is the problem? And if they'll continue to support, update and provide additional content post release, such microtransactions are a legit way to support them. Like I've said, I've seen them in Killing Floor 2 and Natural Selection 2 and they work wonderfully.

-snip-

Totally agree. I don't get people who are fighting this...unless, perhaps, they have no self control and find themselves buying the cosmetics.

 

27 minutes ago, Arika S said:

i still belive that any game you have to buy should not have microtrasnactions at all. If you want MTX, then the base game should be free to play.

 

Cosmetics/Expansions are an exception to this

Do you see DLC as microtransactions?

 

[Arika]

4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Do you see DLC as microtransactions?

 

not a "microtransaction" as such to me, but i've seen people make the connection between microtransactions today and expansion packs/DLC from a few years ago, so it was more for clarity in case someone was to bring it up

[dizmo]

10 minutes ago, Caroline said:

yeah but they include it in the price.

Ahhh I see what you mean.

They did that for one of the CoD games...but not again since. I guess it didn't exactly go over well.

5 minutes ago, Arika S said:

not a "microtransaction" as such to me, but i've seen people make the connection between microtransactions today and expansion packs/DLC from a few years ago, so it was more for clarity in case someone was to bring it up

...I was going somewhere with that, but I started replying to this post yesterday and I've forgotten where that train was headed.

And I'm now half way through the scrapings of a Cinnzeo box, and the sugar high has denied the train returning to the station for consult.

[WereCatf]

29 minutes ago, Caroline said:

yeah but they include it in the price.

No, they don't. Cyberpunk 2077 is a single-player game, it has no multiplayer. The multiplayer-game in the same universe is a separate thing.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

3 hours ago, WereCatf said:

No, they don't. Cyberpunk 2077 is a single-player game, it has no multiplayer. The multiplayer-game in the same universe is a separate thing.

Cyberpunk 2076?

[The Sloth]

16 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

wrong. they said singleplayer the actual 2077 cyberpunk game wouldnt have microtransactions.

I never said single player will have MTX. 

[The Sloth]

13 hours ago, Tegos said:

Whoa calm down there buddy this isn't Bethesda we're talking about

 

Over hyping anything is wrong no matter whichever the company your talking about, wait and judge, CDPR has made subpar games in the past like the witcher 1 and 2. It seems like they learned a lot and hit a home run with TW3, hopefully Cyberpunk will live up to exceptions. Wait and buy the game after reviews come out. 

 

 

A studio with excellent track record would be rockstar in terms of single player games, all the GTA and Red deads have been masterpieces worth playing.  

[Mihle]

3 hours ago, nerdslayer1 said:

A studio with excellent track record would be rockstar in terms of single player games, all the GTA and Red deads have been masterpieces worth playing.  

Thats just your opinion. I disagree.

[Sky Spark]

5 hours ago, Caroline said:

yeah but they include it in the price.

No? The single player is $60, 60-100 hour game, similar to Witcher 3,  multiplayer is a separate project entirely. Not even coming until after both paid expansions.

[S w a t s o n]

7 hours ago, ravenshrike said:

Someone didn't read the thread.

Item one, MTX were never actually mentioned, merely monetization of the multiplayer which is how they are going to make money off it, no more, no less. Selling the game for 60 bucks is monetization. Subscriptions are monetization. Private servers are monetization. In-universe ads with the proper aesthetic would be monetization.

 

Item two, the multiplayer is a separate game being made by a separate studio albeit with a lot of input from the main CDPR team. So it will probably be more Elder Scrolls Online than GTA Online in scope although hopefully with a smoother launch than that had.

What could possibly go wrong

[The1Dickens]

If they went about it the way Warframe does, then I could see it being successful, where some folks play through the entire game, and have spent zero IRL monies in the game, and still been able to get anything and everything (the sole item being only founders/backers got Excalibur Prime).

 

Or how ESO does it, where you could buy 1500 Crowns for 15 bucks, or get the monthly subscription, with also gives you 1500 Crowns every month, as well as unlimited materials storage and a few other perks.

 

 

[hollyh88]

10 hours ago, Sauron said:

Uh... no, it will be part of the game. This is some high level mental gymnastics you're doing just to defend a company.

no. the singleplayer is the core game that they advertise. the multiplayer is not tied to the singleplayer.it doesnt come out with the singleplayer game. it is something different. I dont do gymnastics to defend this company im simply stating a fact. they said that the singleplayer and multiplayer are different. when you buy it you get the singleplayer game. no micro transactions just a good game. With paid dlc later to be added like blood and wine. The multiplayer part is separated. it isn't in the devopment at the same time as the singleplayer. in fact they only recently started on it. And it's still in it's basic concept form. It won't be out when the core game gets released. thus it's not part of the game. It ofc is part of cyberpunk but it's not together with the singleplayer game that you purchase at launch. 

[ravenshrike]

Probably the best video on the subject so far.

 

 

[ravenshrike]

8 hours ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Cyberpunk 2076?

Or set in a different city entirely. For instance, we know Chicago has been rebuilt during CP Red. Could be interesting to see a CP city built atop the ruins of Chi-town. This would allow them to place it soon after or concurrent with the events of CP2077 without having to change the plot. Various news bits could reflect the goings on in the player's CP2077 run without being seen by any other players.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

3 hours ago, ravenshrike said:

Or set in a different city entirely. (...)

It was just a joke about Fallout 76

 

I've also just realized that 2077 is also the year of the nuclear war in Fallout...

[JZStudios]

15 hours ago, Trik'Stari said:

See, you're thinking download.

Also you:

15 hours ago, Trik'Stari said:

you download a file from them

 

Either way, my point stands. War Thunder allows for internet radio, and there is no copyright claim to receiving radio, much less live streams.

[SADS]

MTX for cosmetics are annoying as well to be honest.

 

Take Leage of Legends, a few years ago that was great fun, you could spend a little or earn some rare skins if you wanted and it was happy days.

 

Now they release so many skins, half of them look similar in some way. Its flooded with so many, for the sake of MTX's, that when you play the game you can barely tell what toons you're fighting against now.

Its a mess.

They skin the games to death these days now.

[Trik'Stari]

8 hours ago, JZStudios said:

Also you:

 

Either way, my point stands. War Thunder allows for internet radio, and there is no copyright claim to receiving radio, much less live streams.

You download the file, that acts as a link for the game engine to pick up on, and pulling up a live audio stream whilst in game. Like if you had a thumbnail on your desktop that whenever you clicked on it the browser opened up to a 24/7 livestream.

 

But without the browser part. Also there are DMCA takedowns and such with livestreams if they play audio they do not have the rights to.

[xAcid9]

10 hours ago, SADS said:

MTX for cosmetics are annoying as well to be honest.

 

Take Leage of Legends, a few years ago that was great fun, you could spend a little or earn some rare skins if you wanted and it was happy days.

 

Now they release so many skins, half of them look similar in some way. Its flooded with so many, for the sake of MTX's, that when you play the game you can barely tell what toons you're fighting against now.

Its a mess.

They skin the games to death these days now.

Depend whether CDPR look at the mp aspect of CP2077 as a long live service or not. 

[JZStudios]

2 hours ago, Trik'Stari said:

You download the file, that acts as a link for the game engine to pick up on, and pulling up a live audio stream whilst in game. Like if you had a thumbnail on your desktop that whenever you clicked on it the browser opened up to a 24/7 livestream.

 

But without the browser part. Also there are DMCA takedowns and such with livestreams if they play audio they do not have the rights to.

Livestreams and radio are not the same. and if they're streaming and an actual radio is playing there's supposed to be protection from DMCA on that, unless they changed it because you can't control what plays on the radio.

[maartendc]

Honestly, if they still provide a good single player experience, and the microtransactions are only cosmetic, I dont really care.

 

Battlefield V and Battlefield 1 have cosmetic only microtransactions, and that has never bothered me, even though I dont buy them.

 

I trust CDPR to do it right. They have earned my trust. Although I'd rather they focus on single player expansions like they did with the Witcher 3, rather than multiplayer with microtransactions.

[Trik'Stari]

7 hours ago, JZStudios said:

Livestreams and radio are not the same. and if they're streaming and an actual radio is playing there's supposed to be protection from DMCA on that, unless they changed it because you can't control what plays on the radio.

I'm saying that the livestream would function as an in-game "radio station itself". Not that they would be playing radio in the background of the livestream.

 

You get in the car or whatever vehicle, or just activate a "radio app" in game, and the livestream starts playing instead of pre-recorded music or "radio stations" like GTA has.

 

Kind of like how people do EVE Radio stations, which are live streams done in a similar content format to real radio stations, but for the EVE universe.

http://eve-radio.com/

 

As an example. Although those are just something you might have open in the background whilst playing. I'm saying integrate something like that, into the actual game.

[JZStudios]

7 hours ago, Trik'Stari said:

I'm saying that the livestream would function as an in-game "radio station itself". Not that they would be playing radio in the background of the livestream.

 

You get in the car or whatever vehicle, or just activate a "radio app" in game, and the livestream starts playing instead of pre-recorded music or "radio stations" like GTA has.

 

Kind of like how people do EVE Radio stations, which are live streams done in a similar content format to real radio stations, but for the EVE universe.

http://eve-radio.com/

 

As an example. Although those are just something you might have open in the background whilst playing. I'm saying integrate something like that, into the actual game.

I get it. You keep saying something, I comment on that, and then you say something different.

[Trik'Stari]

50 minutes ago, JZStudios said:

I get it. You keep saying something, I comment on that, and then you say something different.

Perhaps my earlier explanations were less clear than they should have been, my bad.