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PewDiePie Isn't to Blame for the New Zealand Mosque Shooting in Christchurch

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2 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

It's not tech news, true, but I'm gonna have to pretty much disagree with most people here. His constant "it's just a joke" kind of attitude and "edginess" played a part. How small or large that part is remains very contentious. 

How much of a role does traditional media play then by constantly putting the spotlight on these wackjobs?

The dude livestreamed it because he wanted it to be seen and shared, which means he wants to be in the spotlight and have his "deeds" espoused to the world and like always the media is more than willing to oblige...

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6 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

It's not tech news, true, but I'm gonna have to pretty much disagree with most people here. His constant "it's just a joke" kind of attitude and "edginess" played a part. How small or large that part is remains very contentious. 

I still cant understand how you would think his videos come off to some as "mass murder people". Its not his fault some of his fans are fucking psycho especially that large of  fanbase. 

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10 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

How much of a role does traditional media play then by constantly putting the spotlight on these wackjobs?

The dude livestreamed it because he wanted it to be seen and shared, which means he wants to be in the spotlight and have his "deeds" espoused to the world and like always the media is more than willing to oblige...

Oh I agree. Mainstream media outlets definitely had a field day with this. Just look up New Zealand on youtube and you'll be bombarded with BBC/CBS/Fox News....

 

So in a sense, his tactic worked. Then again, you'd have to ask yourself, would he still have been on the news even if he didn't want the spotlight?

 

I think what makes this particular event so heartbreaking is the fact that it was live streamed in such surreal first person sort of way. 

 

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I still cant understand how you would think his videos come off to some as "mass murder people". Its not his fault some of his fans are fucking psycho especially that large of  fanbase.

 

It's more about general awareness in my personal view. You're the biggest youtuber, and that comes with a hefty responsibility I think. At the end of the day though, I'm confident that he'll grow more mature from this and distance himself from the psychos even further. 

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7 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

It's more about general awareness in my personal view. You're the biggest youtuber, and that comes with a hefty responsibility I think. At the end of the day though, I'm confident that he'll grow more mature from this and distance himself from the psychos even further. 

He def has in the past year, he not the same guy he was 5 years ago. But yes being the biggest does have some responsibility but you cannot blame what extremest do on celebrities that did not directly support those actions. 

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2 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

He def has in the past year, he not the same guy he was 5 years ago. But yes being the biggest does have some responsibility but you cannot blame what extremest do on celebrities that did not directly support those actions. 

For sure. Time will tell.

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Because that is so devisive right now, that it only leads to "hatemobs" and people going at each other at each and every possibility. That is not desired...

 

Besides that: What does Felix have to do with it?! 

He did distance himself from that Immediately.

 

Just stop reading the things that bash him, telll your friends, tell your parents. Maybe send emails or better letters.


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No one on earth is dumb enough to think a massacre like this could actually be inspired by a guy who makes 10 minute videos about the latest memes.

 

They're dragging PewDiePie's name through the mud purely for clicks and political reasons. 


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this is the same crap that happened to Marilyn Manson with the columbine shooting that happened in the US about 20 years ago. 

 

the truth is, people like Manson and PewDiePie have millions of fans. if just one of them happens to be a crazy murderer that's not their fault. we can't blame them for the actions of their followers.

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1 minute ago, Giganthrax said:

No one on earth is dumb enough to think a massacre like this could actually be inspired by a guy who makes 10 minute videos about the latest memes.

 

They're dragging PewDiePie's name through the mud purely for clicks and political reasons. 

That's how a majority of mainstream media works these days lol


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like.......... really?

 

msm is really dumb, it's almost like they do it on purpose, maybe they do because they know the kind of ppl who consume their crap thinks in the same simple way and then spread their word.


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1 hour ago, danieltien said:

PewDiePie that his name got dragged into this tragedy

Only outside of New Zealand and Australia, international news should have a better look at our and Australia's coverage of the event. If you have no new information then simply say nothing, there is no need to latch on to irrelevant information just because you have nothing else. There is other news going on, cover that until there is something worthwhile and important.

 

Doesn't help either when news stations bring on so called experts, with work experience in national security agencies, that don't know that Australia and New Zealand are different countries separated by 4000+km of ocean.

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1 minute ago, leadeater said:

there is no need to latch on to irrelevant information just because you have nothing else.

there is one reason... 

 

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9 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

there is one reason... 

 

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There is plenty of other news that they can cash in on, just as easily. Lots of it. I'd say it has more to do with seizing the opportunity to discredit Youtube, Youtube creators and internet in general.

 

Edit:

Ceasing, seizing... close enough 🤦‍♂️

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1 hour ago, danieltien said:

It's unfair to PewDiePie that his name got dragged into this tragedy, but at the same time one has to wonder why he was mentioned in the first place.

 

Maybe the shooter hated him and thought if he mentioned him during his rampage it would bring him negative attention?

 

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1 hour ago, leadeater said:

Doesn't help either when news stations bring on so called experts, with work experience in national security agencies, that don't know that Australia and New Zealand are different countries separated by 4000+km of ocean.

You Little Australian's are funny with your ideas of independence.


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2 hours ago, leadeater said:

Only outside of New Zealand and Australia, international news should have a better look at our and Australia's coverage of the event. If you have no new information then simply say nothing, there is no need to latch on to irrelevant information just because you have nothing else. There is other news going on, cover that until there is something worthwhile and important.

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4 hours ago, danieltien said:

but at the same time one has to wonder why he was mentioned in the first place

One word: division.

See, in the shooter's manifesto it said he wanted to cause division/drama. I'd like to bet that the shooter knew that there's nobody better to drag through the mud than someone as controversial as PewDiePie. And if he did know that, he was absolutely right.

This is the media's wet dream. As far as I can tell, it works like this: Something bad happens > Well known person with a controversial reputation gets put in the spotlight > Instant success for the media. 

 

That being said, it's a shame to see someone purposely sully Felix's good name and reputation; much less when it's in a situation such as this where nearly 50 innocent people have died.

 

IMO we need to focus on the main issue at hand here, and that's the shooting. It is unfortunate that this has happened to Felix but there are other things that need attention right now.


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4 hours ago, danieltien said:

but at the same time one has to wonder why he was mentioned in the first place.

The "Manifesto" of the Perpetrator is a big huge shitpost. Nothing there makes sense.

He calls himself an "eco-faschist", hates conservatives and says that Conservativism is over but at the same time mentiones Candence Owens - A black Conservative (well, some disagree)...

 


As for the Media:
Elimination of Competition.

PewDiePie is a Competitor for them and their market, he's like sand in their gears.

And he is really really powerful! 

If he wanted, he could do some real carnage - but he doesn't bother, he does his thing and that's it...


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